Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).

I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
working on top of the new updated DST code.

Here are my findings:

When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update Time)
one of the following error messages occur;

"An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
host's stratum." or

"An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
Forwarded for you information and necessary action.

K.T. (Kevin) Robson
Partner #1508238

Kevin,
Look three posts up at "Windows Internet Time...".

Milt

"Kevin Robson" wrote:

> Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
>
> I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> working on top of the new updated DST code.
>
> Here are my findings:
>
> When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update Time)
> one of the following error messages occur;
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> host's stratum." or
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
>
> K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> Partner #1508238

Hi Kevin,

See if anything here helps:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387/

Other than that, see line 392 (Rock):
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm


"Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA19BD5B-5D21-4E60-9BB0-6FAA3339442D@microsoft.com...
> Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
>
> I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> working on top of the new updated DST code.
>
> Here are my findings:
>
> When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update
> Time)
> one of the following error messages occur;
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> host's stratum." or
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
>
> K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> Partner #1508238

I read the other posts, however, these do not address the system advancing
DST (1 hour) at the new date and a further hour on April 1, 2007 (a total of
2 hours)! Further, the unskilled user will not be able to add/change another
time server when Microsoft has defaulted the Windows time server for
automatic updates.

A universal update that works with the existing time servers is in order.

K.T. (Kevin) Robson
Partner #1508238

"Milt" wrote:

> Kevin,
> Look three posts up at "Windows Internet Time...".
>
> Milt
>
> "Kevin Robson" wrote:
>
> > Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> > advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> > automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
> >
> > I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> > within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> > working on top of the new updated DST code.
> >
> > Here are my findings:
> >
> > When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> > Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update Time)
> > one of the following error messages occur;
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> > The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> > host's stratum." or
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> > Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
> >
> > K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> > Partner #1508238

Do you expect all Windows XP, Server 200 and Server 2003 customers to edit
their registries???

--
K.T. (Kevin) Robson
Partner #1508238


"Kelly" wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> See if anything here helps:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387/
>
> Other than that, see line 392 (Rock):
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> --
>
> All the Best,
> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
>
> Taskbar Repair Tool
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>
>
> "Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AA19BD5B-5D21-4E60-9BB0-6FAA3339442D@microsoft.com...
> > Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> > advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> > automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
> >
> > I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> > within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> > working on top of the new updated DST code.
> >
> > Here are my findings:
> >
> > When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> > Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update
> > Time)
> > one of the following error messages occur;
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> > The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> > host's stratum." or
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> > Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
> >
> > K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> > Partner #1508238
>
>
>

"Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> Do you expect all Windows XP, Server 200 and Server 2003 customers to edit
> their registries???

> "Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> See if anything here helps:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387/
>>
>> Other than that, see line 392 (Rock):
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
>> --
>>
>> All the Best,
>> Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)
>>
>> Taskbar Repair Tool
>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm
>>
>>
>> "Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AA19BD5B-5D21-4E60-9BB0-6FAA3339442D@microsoft.com...
>> > Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers
>> > have
>> > advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
>> > automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
>> >
>> > I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or
>> > "Update"
>> > within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may
>> > be
>> > working on top of the new updated DST code.
>> >
>> > Here are my findings:
>> >
>> > When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
>> > Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update
>> > Time)
>> > one of the following error messages occur;
>> >
>> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with
>> > time.windows.com.
>> > The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than
>> > the
>> > host's stratum." or
>> >
>> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
>> > Forwarded for you information and necessary action.

I'm wondering who is the "you" to whom you refer? Is it Kelly who is trying
to help you or do you think you're addressing MS here? If the latter know
that this is a peer to peer newsgroup. Everyone that posts here is a
volunteer. If you don't want the offer of assistance it's up to you.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Hmm, yes every time an "MVP" is wrong or gets into a tight corner they
attack you and make it look like it was your fault for asking the question
no matter how relevant, Very mature Rock.

You could of course go to Time.gov and get the actual time. If you manually
synch your servers, etc. they ought to remain accurate until this issue is
resolved. I haven't looked into it lately but there used to be several
utilities that would check with the atomic clock system and then synch your
clock to it. I imagine those still exist.

"Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AA19BD5B-5D21-4E60-9BB0-6FAA3339442D@microsoft.com...
> Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
>
> I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> working on top of the new updated DST code.
>
> Here are my findings:
>
> When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update
Time)
> one of the following error messages occur;
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> host's stratum." or
>
> "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
>
> K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> Partner #1508238

I tried the time.gov with the same error message. I have escalated this
matter to Microsoft PSS Support 'RTCProd=014-805-602' Windows Time - Windows
XP.
--
K.T. (Kevin) Robson
Partner #1508238


"Microsoft MVP" wrote:

> Hmm, yes every time an "MVP" is wrong or gets into a tight corner they
> attack you and make it look like it was your fault for asking the question
> no matter how relevant, Very mature Rock.
>
> You could of course go to Time.gov and get the actual time. If you manually
> synch your servers, etc. they ought to remain accurate until this issue is
> resolved. I haven't looked into it lately but there used to be several
> utilities that would check with the atomic clock system and then synch your
> clock to it. I imagine those still exist.
>
> "Kevin Robson" <KevinRobson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AA19BD5B-5D21-4E60-9BB0-6FAA3339442D@microsoft.com...
> > Since Sunday April 1, 2007 a number of my clients' and my computers have
> > advanced a further hour (DST +1) automatically and can no longer be set
> > automatically to the Windows time domain (time.windows.com).
> >
> > I believe this is a universal problem requiring a "Hot Patch" or "Update"
> > within the Windows time code. I suspect that the original DST code may be
> > working on top of the new updated DST code.
> >
> > Here are my findings:
> >
> > When updating time with Internet time server (Start>Control Panel>Date,
> > Time, Language And Regional Options>Date And Time>Internet Time>Update
> Time)
> > one of the following error messages occur;
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.windows.com.
> > The time sample was rejected because: The peer's stratum is less than the
> > host's stratum." or
> >
> > "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing with time.nist.gov."
> > Forwarded for you information and necessary action.
> >
> > K.T. (Kevin) Robson
> > Partner #1508238
>
>
>

I am IT Support for the EPA and we have multiple PCs that all have the
same issue; the computers are all running Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2.
Using Windows Firewall. All PCs are NOT in a Domain but just in the same
WorkGroup. Using an active LAN connection to the internet. Open Date &
Time Properties Box and Internet Time Tab. Check mark is on Auto Sync
with an Internet Time Server. There are over 8 Servers listed in the
Drop Down List. Attempt to Update Now to any of the Servers and
following appears: "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing
with {Various Server Site Names used}. I have Turned Off Windows
Firewall and tried again and same results. I added several suggested
Time Server Names into the list from your Forum as well as other Tech
Forums but same error message each time. I have confirmed that the
Windows Time Service is on Auto and Started. I have stopped
unregistered, registered, started back up the w32tm.exe but same
results. I have added TCP Port 123 for Internet Time Service within
exceptions list of Windows Firewall but same results. After all of these
steps and trying over 15 various Time Server Site connections the
results are the same error above each time. This is on multiple PCs set
up the same way. I have been told that there is a supported hot fix is
now available from Microsoft that will resolve this issue once and for
all. We do not have the MS unlimited support contract. Is there still a
way to obtain this Hot Fix and does it really resolve the above issue
even after all the troubleshooting steps I have already taken? Thanks
for the support.

Steve Davis


--
SteveDavis25
Posted via http://ms-os.com Forum to Usenet gateway

SteveDavis25 wrote:

> I am IT Support for the EPA and we have multiple PCs that all have the
> same issue; the computers are all running Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2.
> Using Windows Firewall. All PCs are NOT in a Domain but just in the same
> WorkGroup. Using an active LAN connection to the internet. Open Date &
> Time Properties Box and Internet Time Tab. Check mark is on Auto Sync
> with an Internet Time Server. There are over 8 Servers listed in the
> Drop Down List. Attempt to Update Now to any of the Servers and
> following appears: "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing
> with {Various Server Site Names used}. I have Turned Off Windows
> Firewall and tried again and same results. I added several suggested
> Time Server Names into the list from your Forum as well as other Tech
> Forums but same error message each time. I have confirmed that the
> Windows Time Service is on Auto and Started. I have stopped
> unregistered, registered, started back up the w32tm.exe but same
> results. I have added TCP Port 123 for Internet Time Service within
> exceptions list of Windows Firewall but same results. After all of these
> steps and trying over 15 various Time Server Site connections the
> results are the same error above each time. This is on multiple PCs set
> up the same way. I have been told that there is a supported hot fix is
> now available from Microsoft that will resolve this issue once and for
> all. We do not have the MS unlimited support contract. Is there still a
> way to obtain this Hot Fix and does it really resolve the above issue
> even after all the troubleshooting steps I have already taken? Thanks
> for the support.
>
> Steve Davis
>

If you have the Hotfix number, just call and ask only for that, nothing
else. The hotfix is free.
>

The Hotfix is free, just don't ask about anything else. Give them the HotFix
number (the KB number). MS just wants to keep track of the usage.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"SteveDavis25" <SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local> wrote in message
news:SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local...
>
> I am IT Support for the EPA and we have multiple PCs that all have the
> same issue; the computers are all running Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2.
> Using Windows Firewall. All PCs are NOT in a Domain but just in the same
> WorkGroup. Using an active LAN connection to the internet. Open Date &
> Time Properties Box and Internet Time Tab. Check mark is on Auto Sync
> with an Internet Time Server. There are over 8 Servers listed in the
> Drop Down List. Attempt to Update Now to any of the Servers and
> following appears: "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing
> with {Various Server Site Names used}. I have Turned Off Windows
> Firewall and tried again and same results. I added several suggested
> Time Server Names into the list from your Forum as well as other Tech
> Forums but same error message each time. I have confirmed that the
> Windows Time Service is on Auto and Started. I have stopped
> unregistered, registered, started back up the w32tm.exe but same
> results. I have added TCP Port 123 for Internet Time Service within
> exceptions list of Windows Firewall but same results. After all of these
> steps and trying over 15 various Time Server Site connections the
> results are the same error above each time. This is on multiple PCs set
> up the same way. I have been told that there is a supported hot fix is
> now available from Microsoft that will resolve this issue once and for
> all. We do not have the MS unlimited support contract. Is there still a
> way to obtain this Hot Fix and does it really resolve the above issue
> even after all the troubleshooting steps I have already taken? Thanks
> for the support.
>
> Steve Davis
>
>
> --
> SteveDavis25
> Posted via http://ms-os.com Forum to Usenet gateway
>

I too have been having this same problem for months now. If anyone finds the
hotfix number, please post it here. Thanks.
--
Mark N.
"SteveDavis25" <SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local> wrote in message
news:SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local...
>
> I am IT Support for the EPA and we have multiple PCs that all have the
> same issue; the computers are all running Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2.
> Using Windows Firewall. All PCs are NOT in a Domain but just in the same
> WorkGroup. Using an active LAN connection to the internet. Open Date &
> Time Properties Box and Internet Time Tab. Check mark is on Auto Sync
> with an Internet Time Server. There are over 8 Servers listed in the
> Drop Down List. Attempt to Update Now to any of the Servers and
> following appears: "An error occurred while Windows was synchronizing
> with {Various Server Site Names used}. I have Turned Off Windows
> Firewall and tried again and same results. I added several suggested
> Time Server Names into the list from your Forum as well as other Tech
> Forums but same error message each time. I have confirmed that the
> Windows Time Service is on Auto and Started. I have stopped
> unregistered, registered, started back up the w32tm.exe but same
> results. I have added TCP Port 123 for Internet Time Service within
> exceptions list of Windows Firewall but same results. After all of these
> steps and trying over 15 various Time Server Site connections the
> results are the same error above each time. This is on multiple PCs set
> up the same way. I have been told that there is a supported hot fix is
> now available from Microsoft that will resolve this issue once and for
> all. We do not have the MS unlimited support contract. Is there still a
> way to obtain this Hot Fix and does it really resolve the above issue
> even after all the troubleshooting steps I have already taken? Thanks
> for the support.
>
> Steve Davis
>
>
> --
> SteveDavis25
> Posted via http://ms-os.com Forum to Usenet gateway
>

M8RIX said....
> I too have been having this same problem for months now. If anyone finds the
> hotfix number, please post it here. Thanks.
> --
> Mark N.
> "SteveDavis25" <SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local> wrote in message
> news:SteveDavis25.2tzi1a@news.home.local...
> >
> > I am IT Support for the EPA and we have multiple PCs that all have the
> > same issue; the computers are all running Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP2.
> > Using Windows Firewall. [SNIP]
>
>
>

If installing software is not out of the question, you might try this on
one machine: http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/

I've used D4 for years with excellent results, now with XP Pro.

If it doesn't work, maybe the problem is elsewhere in the network?

--

Dale

Hi all,

I had a similar problem with an XP workstation, and managed to work
around the problem by creating a custom exception for Windows Firewall
to allow Windows Time the requisite access to/from the Internet:

1) Open Windows Firewall settings.
2) Click the Exceptions tab.
3) Click Add Program...
4) Browse to c:\windows\system32\w32tm.exe

Ben

Hi all,

I had a similar problem with an XP workstation, and managed to work
around the problem by creating a custom exception for Windows Firewall
to allow Windows Time the requisite access to/from the Internet:

1) Open Windows Firewall settings.
2) Click the Exceptions tab.
3) Click Add Program...
4) Browse to c:\windows\system32\w32tm.exe

Ben