RDJim wrote:
> My "Compact Messages" nag in Outlook Express is out of control. Several
> times during a single session the little notify bell will go off like
> some one is leaning on the keyboard and won't stop until I close OE.
>
> Through the helpful info on HTFC I think I figured out how to stop it
> temporarily. Problem is after I reset the counter to zero eventually
> within hours, the multiple ringing of the nag bell comes back. When I
> check the counter it has some crazy hex value in there that looks like a
> really big number. And this happens regardless of whether or not I
> compact the messages manually or accept the nag with an "OK." If I open
> regedit and watch the counter, I can see it go up 2 or 3 points just
> opening and closing OE one time. How could the counter be logging so
> many hits??
>
> I've read that having a corrupt .dbx file could cause strange effects
> but compacting the files should fix that. I did not try to replace a
> corrupt folder because I have many folders and no way to know which
> could be corrupt.
>
> I'm not running an virus scanner and I just did a full reformat of my
> windows install. I even bought a program that deletes duplicate emails
> (Remove Duplicate Emails by 'MAPILab - http://www.mapilab.com/'
> (http://www.mapilab.com/)) which worked great. After many reinstalls of
> windows and running the Transfer Wizard I ended up with 4 copies of
> every saved email. I don't know if that could be a problem, but the
> program works great and deleted all the dupes.
>
> I don't think I have a really large number of saved messages though
> after many years I'm sure I have over 1,000 - but I can't be alone
> there.
>
> For now Jerry Ed's batch file trick with the reg edit and shortcut
> launcher seems to ease the pain a bit but I still think I have a
> problem. Put them all in the root directory for OE (C:\Program
> Files\Outlook Express). Download the files here: '4shared.com - online
> file sharing and storage - download LaunchOE-NoCompact.zip'
> (http://www.4shared.com/file/75892605...NoCompact.html)
>
> The only problem with Jerry's scripts is that it leaves open a black
> CMD window. It will close when you close OE or you can delete it. Any
> idea on how to fix that?
>
> Anyway, this is a long message and maybe it will help some one. And
> maybe someone can help me?
>
> Thanks, :D
>
> Jim
>
>

Do yourself a favor and dump Outhouse Distress and install Thunderbird.
Unlike OE, it has an excellent junk filter and a real time spell check
that corrects as you type. When you install it, you can import
everything from OE except the email passwords. Get it at
http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird. Also, OE is no longer supported by
Microsoft and Thunderbird is supported.

Alias

Alias;879751 Wrote:
>
>
> Do yourself a favor and dump Outhouse Distress and install
> Thunderbird...
>
> Alias

Tried Thunderbird but for some reason it wouldn't send messages...kept
getting a SMTP error. Imported account settings from OE but after many
attempts to fix or find help I gave up and installed Microsoft Live Mail
Desktop. Believe it or not I really like it...and nice improvement over
OE and it works great.

Then to my dismay, I kept getting those **** OE Compact Messages Nag.
I googled "uninstall OE" and found a great set of instructions. So far
so good. Now all I need is a way to skin Live Mail to add a little
contrast to the color scheme. ;) It's always something, but that's why
we love computers... it's a hobby that keeps giving.

http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx Wrote:
>
>
> To manually remove Outlook Express 5.x or 6.0, you must rename several
> files. To help in this process, all system files and file extensions
> must be visible:
> > >
- Double-click the My Computer icon.
- On the Tools menu, click Folder Options, and then click the View
> tab.
- In the Hide Files and Folders section, click Show hidden files
> and folders, and then click to clear the Hide file extensions for
> known file types check box.
- Click to clear the Hide Protected 'Operating System'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) Files (Recommended)
> check box, and then click Yes in the warning message dialog box.
- Click OK to close the Folder Options dialog box.> > HOW TO REMOVE OUTLOOK EXPRESS
> Before you remove Outlook Express, it is important to familiarize
> yourself with the 'back up and restore'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) procedures for Outlook
> data. Microsoft recommends that you back up your 'e-mail'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#), address book, and other
> data. For detailed instructions and backup procedures, see the
> following Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
>
>
> '181084'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;181084) How
> to 'Back Up' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) Your Inbox
> Assistant Rules in Outlook Express
> '188093'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;188093) How
> to Back Up the Account List in Outlook Express
> '230208'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;230208) How
> to 'Back Up E-mail' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#)
> Messages in Outlook Express 5
> '270670'
> (http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;270670)
> OLEXP: How to Back Up and Recover Outlook Express 'Data'
> (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#)
> '230076' (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=230076)
> OL2000: Why Outlook 2000 Requires Outlook Express
> To remove Outlook Express, you must rename several folders.
>
> NOTE: Before you remove Outlook Express, make sure you are logged on
> to the computer with Administrative rights.
> > >
- Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, and then
> click Windows Explorer.
- Locate and rename the following folders: > > >
- The Stationery folder: C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft
> Shared\Stationery
- The Identities folder: C:\Documents and
> Settings\username\Application Data\Identities
> -or-
> C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Identities
- The Address Book folder: C:\Documents and
> Settings\username\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book
> -or-
> C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Application
> Data\Address Book
> > >
- After you locate these folders, click them one at a time, and
> then press F2. Rename them to old_stationery, old_identities, and
> old_address respectively, and then press ENTER.> > You must now delete the registry key for Outlook Express:
>
> WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause
> serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating
> system. 'Microsoft' (http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx#) cannot
> guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry
> Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.
>
> > >
- Click Start, and then click Run, and then type regedit in the
> Open box.
- Locate the following registry keys, right-click the registry key,
> and then click Delete: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Outlook
> Express
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WAB
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> Components\{44BBA840-CC51-11CF-AAFA-00AA00B6015C}
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
> Components\{7790769C-0471-11D2-AF11-00C04FA35D02}
- Quit Registry Editor.> > To complete the removal procedure, rename several Outlook Express
> files:
> > >
- Click Start, point to Search, and then click For Files and
> Folders.
- Find and rename the following files (these files are the same in
> Outlook Express 6.0):
- Inetcomm.dll
> Msoeacct.dll
> Msoert2.dll
> Msoe.dll
> Msoeres.dll
> Msimn.exe
> Oeimport.dll
> Oemiglib.dll
> Oemig50.exe
> Setup50.exe
> Wab.exe
> Wabfind.dll
> Wabimp.dll
> Wabmig.exe
> Csapi3t1.dll
> Directdb.dll
> Wab32.dll
> Wab32res.dll
> > > Each of these files are located in two folders, the default file
> folder, and the C:\Winnt\System32\Dllcache folder. For example, the
> Inetcomm.dll file is located in the C:\Winnt\System32 folder, by
> default, and in the C:\Winnt\System32\Dllcache folder. You must rename
> the same file in both folders to successfully remove Outlook Express.
> To rename these files:
> > >
- Remove any CD-ROMs that may be in your CD-ROM drive.
- Click the Inetcomm.dll file in the Dllcache folder, press F2,
> rename the file to filename.old (for example, inetcomm.old), and
> then press ENTER.
- Click the same file in the other folder, press F2, rename the
> file to filename.old, and then press ENTER.
- When you receive the prompt about Windows file protection, do not
> insert the Windows 2000 CD-ROM. Instead, click Cancel.
- At the prompt about keeping unrecognized file versions, click
> Yes.
- Repeat this process with each file in the list.> > http://www.tweakxp.com/article37318.aspx

How do I get my email back? I saved them into folders but the folders
are now empty. I WANT MY EMAIL BACK, PLEASE.....
Cheryl

C. Ann wrote:
> How do I get my email back? I saved them into folders but the folders
> are now empty. I WANT MY EMAIL BACK, PLEASE.....
> Cheryl

Your newsreader seems to be:

"X-Newsreader: vBulletin USENET gateway"

... but there's no information on your email program. The subject of the
thread you "hijacked" mentions OE. Whatever email program you use, you
can get help in a newsgroup dedicated to that program.

If you in fact use OE, then the email folders, such as Inbox.dbx
probably still exist. This depends on what happened; if you lost your
account information and had to recreate it, you can import the old
emails, settings, etc. from the old account. All this can be best found
in the proper group where the subject is commonplace.

More OE help:

http://www.insideoe.com/

Scroll down to "Outlook Express articles on the Internet Explorer
Community website" and find two links on:

# A Multitude of Multiples: Using Outlook Express with Multiple E-mail
Addresses, Multiple Accounts, and Multiple Identities
# The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express

--
Joe =o)

[Crossposting reply to hijacked thread to OE General newsgroup]

Why it happens:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com/probl...s.htm#mailgone
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/...orruption.mspx

Recovering the missing data: http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx (#2 and #4)
and http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=918069 (see Notes section under
Resolution)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DBXpress (faster, more powerful, with even greater functionality than
DBXtract)
http://www.oehelp.com/DBXpress/Default.aspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Avoiding Such Corruption in Future:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


C. Ann wrote:
> How do I get my email back? I saved them into folders but the folders
> are now empty. I WANT MY EMAIL BACK, PLEASE.....
> Cheryl

Hi guys

HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
discussed above.

1. Backup your dll (see below) before doing any change.

2a. If you use version 6.0.2900.5512 of msoe.dll (check in c:\program
files\outlook express folder or similar), which should come with Windows
XP SP3, then just change the value of BYTE at address A5290 to 00 (from
64) and at address A5292 to 83 (from 82), all values hexadecimal.

2b. If your version is different, use W32Dasm or a similar tool to find
all references to "Compact Check Count" string (should find 3 or 4) in
msoe.dll. The right reference is the one which precedes the blue text
"Reference to: "SHLWAPI.SHGetValueA ..." (rather than SetValue) by 4 or
so lines in W32Dasm listing. Find a CMP instruction containing constant
00000064, it should be around 20 lines afterwards [that's the
"unchangeble" value of 100 times of OE runs]. The values to change, 64
and 82, are parts of coding of this CMP instruction and the JB
instruction that follows it. Subtract the address of the CMP instruction
from the "Program Entry Point" address (check menu Goto) to find the
actual address and fix these bytes in msoe.dll with Ultra Edit or
another binary editor as above.

3. Try it out! Play with the key in Registry to check if it works for
any value.

Please use this only for educational purposes!

"tobi_boi" <tobi_boi.3pnode@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
news:tobi_boi.3pnode@no.email.invalid...
>
> Hi guys
>
> HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
> MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
> freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
> completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
> discussed above.

Discussed "above" what?
Posted and mailed

The "forum" that you are posting in leaches off the Microsoft News servers
in order to make it look far busier than it really is. Everyone who uses the
MS News servers sees your post on it's own - we have NO IDEA what you are
talking about and to whom you are talking.

This is not your fault - the fault lies with the forum owners who do not
explain to members that their posts end up on global Usenet newsgroups.
If you MUST continue to post in this "forum" then please at least quote the
post you are replying to as per Usenet customary usage.

You would be far better off however, using a news reader and subscribing to
these news groups direct.

Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm

Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx


Thank you


--
Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)

Thanks for explanation! Here is the first post from the discussion I replied
to on the web. In case it illuminates my last post. And this I write from OE
now :).


Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk space, outlook
express can compact messages"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free up
disk space, outlook express can compact messages."

I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the integrity
of my messages.

However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
annoying pop-ups.



Thank You very much



Keven



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon" <gordonbparker******.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up disk
space, outlook express can compact messages"


> "tobi_boi" <tobi_boi.3pnode@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
> news:tobi_boi.3pnode@no.email.invalid...
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
>> MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
>> freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
>> completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
>> discussed above.
>
> Discussed "above" what?
> Posted and mailed
>
> The "forum" that you are posting in leaches off the Microsoft News servers
> in order to make it look far busier than it really is. Everyone who uses
> the
> MS News servers sees your post on it's own - we have NO IDEA what you are
> talking about and to whom you are talking.
>
> This is not your fault - the fault lies with the forum owners who do not
> explain to members that their posts end up on global Usenet newsgroups.
> If you MUST continue to post in this "forum" then please at least quote
> the
> post you are replying to as per Usenet customary usage.
>
> You would be far better off however, using a news reader and subscribing
> to
> these news groups direct.
>
> Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail to access Microsoft newsgroups
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/ou...snewreader.htm
>
> Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail Newsreader
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> --
> Asking a question?
> Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
> your OS, Service Pack level
> and the FULL contents of any error message(s)
>

[Crosspost to OE General again]

Horse hockey!

1. MSOE.DLL is not the executable for Outlook Express.

2. Unless you want to risk the loss of your entire message store, you do NOT
want to disable Automatic Compacting (which was introduced in WinXP SP2
where MSOE.DLL was v6.0.2900.2180 IIRC) or do anything in the post quoted
below, /especially/ messing about in the Registry!

3. If you adhere to all of the following caveats, you will never see the
Automatic Compact prompt:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Frequently perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working
offline". More at http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- Do not cancel Automatic Compacting, should it occur, and do not attempt to
close OE via Task Manager or shutdown your machine if Automatic Compacting
is taking place.

- Disable email scanning by your anti-virus application. It can cause
corruption (i.e., loss of messages) and provides no additional protection:

Why you don't need your anti-virus to scan your email
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

PS: This thread dates from April 1st (coincidence?) 2007. Please read all
previous replies to this thread before posting any more replies to it:

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...4f7e720f76f64d

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

tobi_boi wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> HERE ARE THE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO REMOVE THE ANNOYING OUTLOOK EXPRESS
> MESSAGE *FOREVER AND AT ONCE*. Please use this only if you want to have
> freedom to choose when you want to compact your messages, not to
> completelly avoid compacting messages which can be dangerous as
> discussed above.
>
> 1. Backup your dll (see below) before doing any change.
>
> 2a. If you use version 6.0.2900.5512 of msoe.dll (check in c:\program
> files\outlook express folder or similar), which should come with Windows
> XP SP3, then just change the value of BYTE at address A5290 to 00 (from
> 64) and at address A5292 to 83 (from 82), all values hexadecimal.
>
> 2b. If your version is different, use W32Dasm or a similar tool to find
> all references to "Compact Check Count" string (should find 3 or 4) in
> msoe.dll. The right reference is the one which precedes the blue text
> "Reference to: "SHLWAPI.SHGetValueA ..." (rather than SetValue) by 4 or
> so lines in W32Dasm listing. Find a CMP instruction containing constant
> 00000064, it should be around 20 lines afterwards [that's the
> "unchangeble" value of 100 times of OE runs]. The values to change, 64
> and 82, are parts of coding of this CMP instruction and the JB
> instruction that follows it. Subtract the address of the CMP instruction
> from the "Program Entry Point" address (check menu Goto) to find the
> actual address and fix these bytes in msoe.dll with Ultra Edit or
> another binary editor as above.
>
> 3. Try it out! Play with the key in Registry to check if it works for
> any value.
>
> Please use this only for educational purposes!