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Old 02-24-2007, 06:45 PM
John
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Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Hi

I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How is
one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?

Thanks

Regards


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Old 02-24-2007, 07:00 PM
David H. Lipman
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

From: "John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk>

| Hi
|
| I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
| card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
| question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How is
| one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
|
| Thanks
|
| Regards
|

Get a USB Floppy Drive.
Put the Driver on a CDROM.
Put the Driver in a USB Flash drive or memory card.



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Old 02-24-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

"John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote
> Hi
>
> I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
> card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
> question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How
> is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?



Get a external USB floppy. or see if a flash drive will work. Why did you
crosspost this to so many groups? Your question has nothing to do with
security_admin, perform_maintain, or configuration_manage. If crossposting
do it to one or two at most. [Unnecessary crossposting deleted].

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Old 02-24-2007, 09:45 PM
John John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the
drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST
be supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.

Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
Windows Server 2003 setup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859

John

John wrote:

> Hi
>
> I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
> card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
> question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How is
> one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
>

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Old 02-24-2007, 09:45 PM
John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?

Thanks

Regards

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the drivers
> onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the drivers
> from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST be supplied
> on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>
> Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
> Windows Server 2003 setup
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>
> John
>
> John wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
>> card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
>> question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How
>> is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards



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Old 02-24-2007, 10:30 PM
John John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

It's burning a Windows CD with additional drivers, service pack or
hotfixes incorporated into the CD.

How to Add OEM Plug and Play Drivers to Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314479/

A connected USB floppy disk drive does not work when you press F6 to
install mass storage drivers during the Windows XP installation process
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916196

Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
Introduction)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/

John


John wrote:

> Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the drivers
>>onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the drivers
>>from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST be supplied
>>on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>
>>Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>>Windows Server 2003 setup
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>
>>John
>>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
>>>card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
>>>question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How
>>>is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Regards

>
>
>

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Old 02-25-2007, 05:46 AM
Noncompliant
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Think John has the correct answer. Believe you're referring to the F6
prompt at the initial part of the the XP installation. It will only get
driver from the A: drive. Some older machines could have had a zip or
ls120/240 drive for this purpose if setup hardware-wise correctly for the A:
drive letter designation. The ls120 could read/write regular floppies as
well as its own 120MB media.

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"John" <John@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23lFHEYIWHHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi
>
> I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
> card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
> question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days. How
> is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>



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Old 02-25-2007, 08:01 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

John wrote:

> Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?



The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice of
many software manufacturers of including updates to their product on the
distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were doing or
differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a disparaging term
because it was poor practice. It was used as a way for the manufacturer not
to have to print a different box, manual, etc. for the updated version, and
to sell older stock that didn't appear to be outdated, but actually was.
That saved them money, but it left the customer unable to tell whether he
was buying the new version or the old.

Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated versions
of some software, by merging the update files with the original CD. Someone
got the bright idea to call it by the same name "slipstreaming," without
realizing that the name was originally used in a disparaging way.

The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the original
meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight it. Since
everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the upgrade incorporated
in it, I reluctantly go along.

So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation CD that
you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as SP2.

--
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> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
>> drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept
>> the drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices,
>> they MUST be supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>
>> Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>> Windows Server 2003 setup
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>
>> John
>>
>> John wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA
>>> 13434 card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that
>>> the pc in question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs
>>> these days. How is one to load the drivers for this card during win
>>> xp installation? Thanks
>>>
>>> Regards



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Old 02-25-2007, 09:16 AM
John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

From the slipstreaming article;

"This article includes only those drivers that are typically installed
during graphical user interface (GUI)-mode Setup or post-Setup by standard
Plug and Play enumeration."

Would it still work during win xp installation i.e. during non-GUI mode?

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:eYorbTKWHHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> It's burning a Windows CD with additional drivers, service pack or
> hotfixes incorporated into the CD.
>
> How to Add OEM Plug and Play Drivers to Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314479/
>
> A connected USB floppy disk drive does not work when you press F6 to
> install mass storage drivers during the Windows XP installation process
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916196
>
> Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
> Introduction)
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
>
> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/
>
> John
>
>
> John wrote:
>
>> Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
>>>drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the
>>>drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST be
>>>supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>>
>>>Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>>>Windows Server 2003 setup
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
>>>>card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
>>>>question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days.
>>>>How is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Regards

>>
>>


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Old 02-25-2007, 07:45 PM
John John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Yes. Put the drivers in a folder in the cd \i386\$OEM$\$1\drivers\
directory path and edit the .sif file.

http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/36/
http://maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html

John


John wrote:
> From the slipstreaming article;
>
> "This article includes only those drivers that are typically installed
> during graphical user interface (GUI)-mode Setup or post-Setup by standard
> Plug and Play enumeration."
>
> Would it still work during win xp installation i.e. during non-GUI mode?
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:eYorbTKWHHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>It's burning a Windows CD with additional drivers, service pack or
>>hotfixes incorporated into the CD.
>>
>>How to Add OEM Plug and Play Drivers to Windows XP
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314479/
>>
>>A connected USB floppy disk drive does not work when you press F6 to
>>install mass storage drivers during the Windows XP installation process
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916196
>>
>>Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
>>Introduction)
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
>>
>>http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>>
>>>
>>>>Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
>>>>drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the
>>>>drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST be
>>>>supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>>>
>>>>Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>>>>Windows Server 2003 setup
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>John wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA 13434
>>>>>card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that the pc in
>>>>>question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs these days.
>>>>>How is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp installation?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>
>>>

>

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Old 02-27-2007, 01:31 PM
John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

Is there a utility to do this easily? I have tried nlite
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ts/nLite.shtml but it did
not work out.

Thanks

Regards

"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
news:eHgDreVWHHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes. Put the drivers in a folder in the cd \i386\$OEM$\$1\drivers\
> directory path and edit the .sif file.
>
> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/36/
> http://maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html
>
> John
>
>
> John wrote:
>> From the slipstreaming article;
>>
>> "This article includes only those drivers that are typically installed
>> during graphical user interface (GUI)-mode Setup or post-Setup by
>> standard Plug and Play enumeration."
>>
>> Would it still work during win xp installation i.e. during non-GUI mode?
>>
>> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eYorbTKWHHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>It's burning a Windows CD with additional drivers, service pack or
>>>hotfixes incorporated into the CD.
>>>
>>>How to Add OEM Plug and Play Drivers to Windows XP
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314479/
>>>
>>>A connected USB floppy disk drive does not work when you press F6 to
>>>install mass storage drivers during the Windows XP installation process
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916196
>>>
>>>Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
>>>Introduction)
>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
>>>
>>>http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>John wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
>>>>>drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the
>>>>>drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST
>>>>>be supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>>>>>Windows Server 2003 setup
>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>
>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA
>>>>>>13434 card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that
>>>>>>the pc in question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs
>>>>>>these days. How is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp
>>>>>>installation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>
>>>>

>>



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Old 02-27-2007, 04:00 PM
John John
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Re: Installing third party driver without floppy drive

You can try this one: http://xpcreate.com/ but other than a CD Burner
and a tool to read/copy the boot image you don't really need "special"
tools to do this. Now you see the trouble that you could have avoided
by buying a $10 diskette drive or by scrounging/borrowing one from
another computer!

John

John wrote:

> Is there a utility to do this easily? I have tried nlite
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...ts/nLite.shtml but it did
> not work out.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
>
> "John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
> news:eHgDreVWHHA.2256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>Yes. Put the drivers in a folder in the cd \i386\$OEM$\$1\drivers\
>>directory path and edit the .sif file.
>>
>>http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/36/
>>http://maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>John wrote:
>>
>>>From the slipstreaming article;
>>>
>>>"This article includes only those drivers that are typically installed
>>>during graphical user interface (GUI)-mode Setup or post-Setup by
>>>standard Plug and Play enumeration."
>>>
>>>Would it still work during win xp installation i.e. during non-GUI mode?
>>>
>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:eYorbTKWHHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's burning a Windows CD with additional drivers, service pack or
>>>>hotfixes incorporated into the CD.
>>>>
>>>>How to Add OEM Plug and Play Drivers to Windows XP
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314479/
>>>>
>>>>A connected USB floppy disk drive does not work when you press F6 to
>>>>install mass storage drivers during the Windows XP installation process
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/916196
>>>>
>>>>Combining Windows XP with Service Pack 2 for reinstallation (Part 1:
>>>>Introduction)
>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894947/
>>>>
>>>>http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry for being naive. What is slipstreaming?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>"John John" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:%23BeZn6JWHHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Temporarily fit a diskette drive to the computer or slipstream the
>>>>>>drivers onto the Windows XP CD. The setup program WILL NOT accept the
>>>>>>drivers from flash drives or other external storage devices, they MUST
>>>>>>be supplied on floppy diskette or slipstreamed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP and
>>>>>>Windows Server 2003 setup
>>>>>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314859
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I need to install win xp on a drive attached to a Q-Tec Serial ATA
>>>>>>>13434 card, which is the secondary drive in the pc. Problem is that
>>>>>>>the pc in question does not have a floppy drive like many other PCs
>>>>>>>these days. How is one to load the drivers for this card during win xp
>>>>>>>installation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>
>>>>>

>
>

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