what is msjvm and what is it's function?

"Mohammadreza DN" <mm_64_hiphop******.co.uk> wrote in message
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what is msjvm and what is it's function?

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MicroSoft Java Virtual Machine.

It is an extension to Internet Explorer that allows Sites that use Java
scripting to work.

Only early versions of Windows XP were supplied with MSJVM. Later versions
are not following the row between Microsoft and Sun microsystems (which
Microsoft lost). If you need a Java Virtual Machine today you have to
obtain it elsewhere (like from Sun).

Microsoft's agenda is to exterminate Java from the face of the earth, a
policy that is actually ensuring ats adoption. Microsoft prefers sites to
use it own ActiveX scripting which is notoriously dangerous.

Mohammadreza DN wrote:
> what is msjvm and what is it's function?

http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/default.mspx

"Mohammadreza DN" <mm_64_hiphop******.co.uk> wrote:

>what is msjvm and what is it's function?

JVM = Java Virtual Machine. That's the framework that allows you to
run Java programs and applets. msjvm is Microsoft's version of the
JVM. Due to a lawsuit, Microsoft had to stop making this and including
it with their operating systems many years ago, so any MSJVM is, by
this time, hopelessly obsolete.

An up to date JVM can be obtained here: http://java.sun.com/getjava

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"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "Mohammadreza DN" <mm_64_hiphop******.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>what is msjvm and what is it's function?
>
> JVM = Java Virtual Machine. That's the framework that allows you to
> run Java programs and applets. msjvm is Microsoft's version of the
> JVM. Due to a lawsuit, Microsoft had to stop making this and including
> it with their operating systems many years ago, so any MSJVM is, by
> this time, hopelessly obsolete.
>

That's not true. The lawsuit didn't stop Microsoft supplying a JVM with
their browsers. What the lawsuit stopped was Microsoft altering the Java
scripting language so that it would only work wih their own Internet
Exporer.

Since the Java scripting language was fixed equally long ago (the idea was
that it would work on *any* platform), Microsoft's JVM is as good today as
its always been.

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
>news:i2f0f5lcrk12ru6tpk98afnuim2kerpqcj@4ax.com.. .
>> "Mohammadreza DN" <mm_64_hiphop******.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>what is msjvm and what is it's function?
>>
>> JVM = Java Virtual Machine. That's the framework that allows you to
>> run Java programs and applets. msjvm is Microsoft's version of the
>> JVM. Due to a lawsuit, Microsoft had to stop making this and including
>> it with their operating systems many years ago, so any MSJVM is, by
>> this time, hopelessly obsolete.
>>
>
>That's not true. The lawsuit didn't stop Microsoft supplying a JVM with
>their browsers. What the lawsuit stopped was Microsoft altering the Java
>scripting language so that it would only work wih their own Internet
>Exporer.

Whatever, that's the effect it had. MS cannot ship their proprietary
JVM, so they withdrew it, stopped shipping it, stopped working on it.
They even pulled the older OSs that contained it from MSDN.

>Since the Java scripting language was fixed equally long ago (the idea was
>that it would work on *any* platform), Microsoft's JVM is as good today as
>its always been.

Well, no. Sun has released numerous updates since the last MS JVM came
out. Any applet written with Java 2.5 or 2.6, and maybe even 2.4 (I'm
not sure which version the MS JVM implemented) won't work with the MS
JVM.

--
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
>>news:i2f0f5lcrk12ru6tpk98afnuim2kerpqcj@4ax.com. ..
>>> "Mohammadreza DN" <mm_64_hiphop******.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>what is msjvm and what is it's function?
>>>
>>> JVM = Java Virtual Machine. That's the framework that allows you to
>>> run Java programs and applets. msjvm is Microsoft's version of the
>>> JVM. Due to a lawsuit, Microsoft had to stop making this and including
>>> it with their operating systems many years ago, so any MSJVM is, by
>>> this time, hopelessly obsolete.
>>>
>>
>>That's not true. The lawsuit didn't stop Microsoft supplying a JVM with
>>their browsers. What the lawsuit stopped was Microsoft altering the Java
>>scripting language so that it would only work wih their own Internet
>>Exporer.
>
> Whatever, that's the effect it had. MS cannot ship their proprietary
> JVM, so they withdrew it, stopped shipping it, stopped working on it.
> They even pulled the older OSs that contained it from MSDN.
>

Microsoft are as entitled to ship a jvm with their products as anyone else
is. Microsoft cannot ship the jvm that they developed because it was
enhanced over the original spec. Microsoft could produce a compliant one,
but decided instead to try and drive Jaca from the Internet (somewhat
unsccuessfully thus far).

>>Since the Java scripting language was fixed equally long ago (the idea was
>>that it would work on *any* platform), Microsoft's JVM is as good today as
>>its always been.
>
> Well, no. Sun has released numerous updates since the last MS JVM came
> out. Any applet written with Java 2.5 or 2.6, and maybe even 2.4 (I'm
> not sure which version the MS JVM implemented) won't work with the MS
> JVM.
>

I have not found a web site so far that does not work with MS JVM.