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Old 10-29-2009, 11:40 AM
BarneyB
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Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

Hi All,

My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
which time servers I choose.

I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get

System error 5 has occurred.

Access is denied.

I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to me.

Thanks,
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

Try server 'tick.usno.navy.mil'
"BarneyB" <BarneyB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
> Hi All,
>
> My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> which time servers I choose.
>
> I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get
>
> System error 5 has occurred.
>
> Access is denied.
>
> I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> me.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> BarneyB



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Old 10-29-2009, 01:10 PM
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

Thanks, but I have tried that one among other time servers. Any other ideas?
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"Unknown" wrote:

> Try server 'tick.usno.navy.mil'
> "BarneyB" <BarneyB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> > which time servers I choose.
> >
> > I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> > the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get
> >
> > System error 5 has occurred.
> >
> > Access is denied.
> >
> > I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> > me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > BarneyB

>
>
> .
>

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Old 10-29-2009, 03:10 PM
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

On Oct 29, 3:36*pm, BarneyB <Barn...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> which time servers I choose.
>
> I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get
>
> System error 5 has occurred.
>
> Access is denied.
>
> I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to me.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> BarneyB


Which of the Google search result have you tried?

Does your XP login have Administrator rights?

Are you using a 3d party firewall?
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Old 10-30-2009, 05:10 AM
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails


"BarneyB" <BarneyB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
> Hi All,
>
> My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> which time servers I choose.
>
> I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get
>
> System error 5 has occurred.
>
> Access is denied.
>
> I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> me.
>


Just you and several million others have this problem at present.
Apparently, the time servers have altered their software so as to detect and
reject denial of dervice attacks. It seems that the way in which windows
interrogates those servers to obtain the current time is interpreted as such
a denial of service attack as Windows makes several interrogations before
correcting the CMOS clock. It further appears that the repetition rate is
somewhat marginal as quite a few people have managed to get their PC to work
with a small handful of time servers.

About the only thing that you can check is that your chosen time server site
is not blocked by your firewall, and that access to port 135 is similarly
not blocked. They probably aren't and like the rest of us, you will have to
await a solution (which may be in the form of an update from MS).



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Old 10-30-2009, 07:40 AM
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

On Oct 30, 9:01*am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> "BarneyB" <Barn...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
>
> > Hi All,

>
> > My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> > which time servers I choose.

>
> > I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> > the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get

>
> > System error 5 has occurred.

>
> > Access is denied.

>
> > I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> > me.

>
> Just you and several million others have this problem at present.
> Apparently, the time servers have altered their software so as to detect and
> reject denial of dervice attacks. *It seems that the way in which windows
> interrogates those servers to obtain the current time is interpreted as such
> a denial of service attack as Windows makes several interrogations before
> correcting the CMOS clock. *It further appears that the repetition rateis
> somewhat marginal as quite a few people have managed to get their PC to work
> with a small handful of time servers.
>
> About the only thing that you can check is that your chosen time server site
> is not blocked by your firewall, and that access to port 135 is similarly
> not blocked. *They probably aren't and like the rest of us, you will have to
> await a solution (which may be in the form of an update from MS).


Where is this information about the altered time server software?

Which time server are you using?

nist and windows work fine for me.

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Old 10-30-2009, 08:30 AM
BarneyB
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails

I booted my machine today and without changing anything it has syncronized to
time.nist.gov, its not been syncing for weeks so I dont know what has
changed, but it seems sorted, Thanks guys :-)
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"Jose" wrote:

> On Oct 30, 9:01 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> > "BarneyB" <Barn...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
> >
> > > Hi All,

> >
> > > My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not matter
> > > which time servers I choose.

> >
> > > I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re register
> > > the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get

> >
> > > System error 5 has occurred.

> >
> > > Access is denied.

> >
> > > I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> > > me.

> >
> > Just you and several million others have this problem at present.
> > Apparently, the time servers have altered their software so as to detect and
> > reject denial of dervice attacks. It seems that the way in which windows
> > interrogates those servers to obtain the current time is interpreted as such
> > a denial of service attack as Windows makes several interrogations before
> > correcting the CMOS clock. It further appears that the repetition rate is
> > somewhat marginal as quite a few people have managed to get their PC to work
> > with a small handful of time servers.
> >
> > About the only thing that you can check is that your chosen time server site
> > is not blocked by your firewall, and that access to port 135 is similarly
> > not blocked. They probably aren't and like the rest of us, you will have to
> > await a solution (which may be in the form of an update from MS).

>
> Where is this information about the altered time server software?
>
> Which time server are you using?
>
> nist and windows work fine for me.
>
> .
>

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Old 11-02-2009, 01:30 AM
M.I.5¾
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Re: Time Syncronization Consistently Fails


"Jose" <jose_ease******.com> wrote in message
news:6f9f7797-8a3c-44fe-a1c0-7021b9e7730e@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 30, 9:01 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> "BarneyB" <Barn...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5311E99F-D32F-41D7-BC5E-E6704E730A42@microsoft.com...
>
> > Hi All,

>
> > My XP Pro machine's fail to sync with time servers, and it does not
> > matter
> > which time servers I choose.

>
> > I have tried netstop w32time, intending to unregister and then re
> > register
> > the service, but at the ntstop w32time command I get

>
> > System error 5 has occurred.

>
> > Access is denied.

>
> > I will be very grateful for any help you knowledgeable folk can offer to
> > me.

>
> Just you and several million others have this problem at present.
> Apparently, the time servers have altered their software so as to detect
> and
> reject denial of dervice attacks. It seems that the way in which windows
> interrogates those servers to obtain the current time is interpreted as
> such
> a denial of service attack as Windows makes several interrogations before
> correcting the CMOS clock. It further appears that the repetition rate is
> somewhat marginal as quite a few people have managed to get their PC to
> work
> with a small handful of time servers.
>
> About the only thing that you can check is that your chosen time server
> site
> is not blocked by your firewall, and that access to port 135 is similarly
> not blocked. They probably aren't and like the rest of us, you will have
> to
> await a solution (which may be in the form of an update from MS).


Where is this information about the altered time server software?

Which time server are you using?

nist and windows work fine for me.

------------

Quite a number of other Windows forums have carried the information. I
personally can't get any time server to work using my Desktop (Core 2 quad)
or my laptop (Core 2 Duo). However, my other half's PC seems to syncronise
without problem to most (but not all) servers. But as it uses an old
Pentium 4 processor, it's probably so slow that the time servers are happy.

None of the newer PCs in the office will synchronise.



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