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| Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgradeedition? I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, the XP installation proceeds to completion. So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. Thanks in advance for any advice. Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? Your version history should still allow you to purchase/use a upgrade version of Windows Seven. The difference is that the validation isn't Windows install disk based. The upgrade will actually depend on finding an active/running version of the qualifying product to begin the upgrade process. Windows 7 cannot directly upgrade Windows XP. It requires a clean or fresh install even though the upgrade process is started from within the older Operating System. Before upgrading you'll want to image your existing setup. This is required so if you have to re-install at some point you'll have the qualifying product to start from. "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so >I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running >XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert >the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, >the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version. But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so >I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running >XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert >the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, >the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version. But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed. In addition your XP product key will be retired and no longer usable. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so >I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running >XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert >the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, >the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? You can buy the Windows 7 upgrade version. But you will not be asked to insert the Windows XP CD as was the case previously. Windows 7 expects to see Windows XP already installed on your hard drive and will not in fact "upgrade XP", instead it will a clean install of Windows 7 and all your installed software (at least any that will work/run in Windows 7 must be re-installed. In addition your XP product key will be retired and no longer usable. -- JS http://www.pagestart.com "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so >I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running >XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert >the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, >the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? In news:tPWdnURZUdHDnV_XnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.co m, R. McCarty typed on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:00 -0400: > Your version history should still allow you to purchase/use a > upgrade version of Windows Seven. The difference is that the > validation isn't Windows install disk based. The upgrade will > actually depend on finding an active/running version of the > qualifying product to begin the upgrade process. Windows 7 > cannot directly upgrade Windows XP. It requires a clean or > fresh install even though the upgrade process is started from > within the older Operating System. > > Before upgrading you'll want to image your existing setup. > This is required so if you have to re-install at some point you'll > have the qualifying product to start from. What R. McCarty and JS didn't mention is if you can install Windows 7 in another partition and leave your original Windows XP alone? > "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message > news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >> I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my >> question so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right >> direction. I am running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The >> DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or >> reinstall XP it always asks me to insert the original Windows disk, >> I guess to verify that I once purchased a full version. The full >> version I have is Millennium and the XP install has always asked for >> and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, the XP >> installation proceeds to completion. So my question is, with this >> history of Windows versions can I >> install the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a >> new full original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. >> >> Thanks in advance for any advice. >> >> Neil -- Bill Windows XP SP2 (5.1.2600) Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so >I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running >XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert >the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, >the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil It's the same as Vista. To upgrade from XP to Win 7, using a Win 7 upgrade version, XP must already be installed. The upgrade is started by booting the Win 7 DVD, not from running XP. The caveat is that Win 7 will not do an on-top upgrade. It must be a clean install. You have two choices, install Win 7 in the XP partition, which will wipe XP, or install it on another partition or disk, which will allow you to do create a dual boot configuration with XP. There's a workaround that allows a Vista upgrade edition to be installed, using itself as qualifying OS. MS probably closed this loophole with Win 7, but that remains to be determined. |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message news:u1U6YrQQKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > In news:tPWdnURZUdHDnV_XnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.co m, > R. McCarty typed on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:00 -0400: >> Your version history should still allow you to purchase/use a >> upgrade version of Windows Seven. The difference is that the >> validation isn't Windows install disk based. The upgrade will >> actually depend on finding an active/running version of the >> qualifying product to begin the upgrade process. Windows 7 >> cannot directly upgrade Windows XP. It requires a clean or >> fresh install even though the upgrade process is started from >> within the older Operating System. >> >> Before upgrading you'll want to image your existing setup. >> This is required so if you have to re-install at some point you'll >> have the qualifying product to start from. > > What R. McCarty and JS didn't mention is if you can install Windows 7 in > another partition and leave your original Windows XP alone? > >> "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message >> news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >>> I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my >>> question so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right >>> direction. I am running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The >>> DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or >>> reinstall XP it always asks me to insert the original Windows disk, >>> I guess to verify that I once purchased a full version. The full >>> version I have is Millennium and the XP install has always asked for >>> and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, the XP >>> installation proceeds to completion. So my question is, with this >>> history of Windows versions can I >>> install the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a >>> new full original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any advice. >>> >>> Neil > > -- > Bill > Windows XP SP2 (5.1.2600) > Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC > I didn't mention it because after a conversation with MS Marketing the overriding answer was always "your XP keycode is no longer valid" both from a EULA/Legal standpoint and from a practical standpoint, marketing even indicated that a Phone activation of XP will not work. As to the final proof of this, I don't think anybody will really know until the upgrade DVD is available and someone tries to keep their copy of XP active. Also sorry for the multiple post but something happened and my first reply was sent before I completed it and without my knowing it, the second attempt got stuck in the OE outbox and .... -- JS http://www.pagestart.com |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? See... Moving to Windows 7 FAQ http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/win...ows-7-faq.aspx Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...p-to-windows-7 -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com Neil H wrote: > I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question > so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am > running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled > "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always > asks me to insert the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I > once purchased a full version. The full version I have is Millennium > and the XP install has always asked for and recognized that disk and > once inserted and validated, the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install > the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full > original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? what you should highly consider is to either partition your drive for the exclusive install of W7 or add a hard disk for the same purposes. you wouldn't want to take any chances with W7 overwriting or deleting the data that you have at this time. ----------- yet there is another method which is to install virtual pc in you current o.s. and then install W7 in virtual PC. however, there is a caveat which is it all depends on what your needs are and if your current system is not limited by hard ware. perhaps it would be safe to say that if your current system requires hard ware upgrading to run vista, then it will also apply for W7. then there is that one little oversight that many people forget which is that there will be programs and peripheral devices like some printers and specialty cards in your mother board slots, if any, that will become incompatible with the newer o.s. -- db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces - ********.com - nntp Postologist ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... > I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question so > I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am running > XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and > when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to insert > the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full > version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has > always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, > the XP installation proceeds to completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install the > upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original > version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? "JS" <@> wrote in message news:OY9P$JRQKHA.2092@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message > news:u1U6YrQQKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> In news:tPWdnURZUdHDnV_XnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.co m, >> R. McCarty typed on Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:41:00 -0400: >>> Your version history should still allow you to purchase/use a >>> upgrade version of Windows Seven. The difference is that the >>> validation isn't Windows install disk based. The upgrade will >>> actually depend on finding an active/running version of the >>> qualifying product to begin the upgrade process. Windows 7 >>> cannot directly upgrade Windows XP. It requires a clean or >>> fresh install even though the upgrade process is started from >>> within the older Operating System. >>> >>> Before upgrading you'll want to image your existing setup. >>> This is required so if you have to re-install at some point you'll >>> have the qualifying product to start from. >> >> What R. McCarty and JS didn't mention is if you can install Windows 7 in >> another partition and leave your original Windows XP alone? >> >>> "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message >>> news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >>>> I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my >>>> question so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right >>>> direction. I am running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The >>>> DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or >>>> reinstall XP it always asks me to insert the original Windows disk, >>>> I guess to verify that I once purchased a full version. The full >>>> version I have is Millennium and the XP install has always asked for >>>> and recognized that disk and once inserted and validated, the XP >>>> installation proceeds to completion. So my question is, with this >>>> history of Windows versions can I >>>> install the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a >>>> new full original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance for any advice. >>>> >>>> Neil >> >> -- >> Bill >> Windows XP SP2 (5.1.2600) >> Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC >> > > I didn't mention it because after a conversation > with MS Marketing the overriding answer was > always "your XP keycode is no longer valid" both > from a EULA/Legal standpoint and from a practical > standpoint, marketing even indicated that a Phone > activation of XP will not work. > > As to the final proof of this, I don't think anybody > will really know until the upgrade DVD is available > and someone tries to keep their copy of XP active. > > Also sorry for the multiple post but something happened > and my first reply was sent before I completed it and without > my knowing it, the second attempt got stuck in the OE outbox > and .... > > -- > JS > http://www.pagestart.com > > That was also said before Vista's release. If Win 7 does a clean install over XP with a reformat, there will be no XP product key available for Win 7 to phone home with. In the extreme, Win 7 could create a small hidden partition to store the XP product key in, but I don't think this would go over well. Remember Sony's root kits. If someone with no internet connection does the upgrade and activates by phone, how does the XP product key get deactivated? Then there are the OEM PCs with BIOS locked XP installs that don't require activation. Also, an XP product key can be changed after XP's activated. It's not fully enforceable. |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgrade edition? M/S recently announced a "student" rate on Windows 7 (I do not recall what version, pro, ultimate, etc) for about $30.00. You have to buy it online and use a valid email address ending with .edu. ~alan "db" <databaseben********.com> wrote in message news:eBtbdzRQKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > what you should highly consider is to > either partition your drive for the exclusive > install of W7 or add a hard disk for the > same purposes. > > you wouldn't want to take any chances > with W7 overwriting or deleting the > data that you have at this time. > > ----------- > > yet there is another method which is > to install virtual pc in you current o.s. > and then install W7 in virtual PC. > > however, there is a caveat which is > it all depends on what your needs are > and if your current system is not limited > by hard ware. > > perhaps it would be safe to say that > if your current system requires hard ware > upgrading to run vista, > > then it will also apply for W7. > > then there is that one little oversight that > many people forget which is that there will > be programs and peripheral devices like > some printers and specialty cards in your > mother board slots, if any, that will become > incompatible with the newer o.s. > > > -- > db·´¯`·...¸><)))º> > DatabaseBen, Retired Professional > - Systems Analyst > - Database Developer > - Accountancy > - Veteran of the Armed Forces > - ********.com > - nntp Postologist > ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > > "Neil H" <Neilgoodluck@.net> wrote in message > news:D8nwm.37356$944.17322@newsfe09.iad... >> I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my question >> so >> I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am >> running >> XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled "Upgrade" and >> when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always asks me to >> insert >> the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I once purchased a full >> version. The full version I have is Millennium and the XP install has >> always asked for and recognized that disk and once inserted and >> validated, >> the XP installation proceeds to completion. >> >> So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install >> the >> upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full original >> version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. >> >> Thanks in advance for any advice. >> >> Neil > |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgradeedition? 'Neil H[_2_ Wrote: > ;3343083']I cannot find anything on the Microsoft site that addresses my > question > so I am hoping you can help or point me in the right direction. I am > running XP Home and it is an Upgrade edition. The DVD is labeled > "Upgrade" and when I have used it to install or reinstall XP it always > > asks me to insert the original Windows disk, I guess to verify that I > once purchased a full version. The full version I have is Millennium > and the XP install has always asked for and recognized that disk and > once inserted and validated, the XP installation proceeds to > completion. > > So my question is, with this history of Windows versions can I install > > the upgrade version of Win7 or am I going to have to buy a new full > original version of Win7? It is obviously a question of $$. > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > Neil Neil H, The Windows 7 upgrade disk upgrades a full version of Windows XP or Windows Vista. For more information, see the Windows 7 Pre-Order offer page he http://tinyurl.com/nldc8p Also, if you are currently a student you may qualify for the $30 upgrade to Windows 7. For more information, please go he http://tinyurl.com/m7nyxa Jessica Microsoft Windows Client Team -- JessicaD42 |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgradeedition? In news:JessicaD42.523d37f@pcbanter.net, JessicaD42 typed on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:08:07 +0100: > Neil H, > > The Windows 7 upgrade disk upgrades a full version of Windows XP or > Windows Vista. For more information, see the Windows 7 Pre-Order offer > page he http://tinyurl.com/nldc8p > > Also, if you are currently a student you may qualify for the $30 > upgrade to Windows 7. For more information, please go he > http://tinyurl.com/m7nyxa > > Jessica > Microsoft Windows Client Team Do you work for Microsoft Jessica? -- Bill Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2 |
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| Re: Upgrade from XP to Win7 - Do I need full version or just upgradeedition? Neil - Windows XP cannot be upgraded to Windows 7 - it must be a clean install, however the XP data, files and application settings (not applications themselves) can be migrated to Win 7 by use of the windows file and settings wizard or user state migration tool (USMT). |
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