"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:b75f0$4a595dcf$9441196c$17903@STARBAND.NET...
>> Guys
>>
>> i look to you guys and all the people on this group to help me with
>> problems. i have allways had very good resolution when i have visited
>> here. i was a little upset that i was dressed down for posting in the
>> wrong group when it was indeed a XP problem. i humblie appoligize
>
> When you wrote "how does a MVP not know about DEP (data execution
> pervention) in Windows XP?" you probably meant to say "how does a MVP not
> know that DEP (data execution pervention) is a Windows XP / Vista
> feature?" This would have been a good point, revealing that I failed to do
> sufficient homework after reading John Inzer's reply and that my point
> about your incorrect posting was misplaced. Your question was appropriate
> all along and you posted it in the correct newsgroup.
>
> About the problem itself: Gery's question is highly relevant. Since DEP
> kicks in when Windows attempts to execute code that resides in an area
> reserved for data, the question is: What "copy utility" do you use?
> Windows Explorer? Some console command such as "copy" or "robocopy"? Some
> third-party tool? What did you install or change recently? Have you
> considered using System Restore to reset your system to a date prior to
> observing the problem? Do you have good and updated virus scanner?
I did not install or change anything prior to the DEP message. I can only
restore to the point where DEP starting occuring. If I try to restore
eariler than that, the restore fails with no explaination. Another issue
started happening about the same time. Windows Automatic Update tries to
install "Microsoft-Other Hardware-HID non-user input data filter (KB
911895). It fails to install and I am prompted repeatedly that new updates
are available to install. Also if i try to do a manual update it fails also.
Is this related to the original problem?

Thanks for all of your help
jj

i am not trying to copy anything. This happens at startup. it says that the
aurthor of windows copy utility is microsoft corporation. this computer
originally had vista on it. i formatted the HD and installed XP SP3, but
that was a year ago. there have been no recient installs or changes.

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> jj
>
> I do not know much about DEP. My current system has the default Opt In
> setting.
>
> A detailed description of the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) feature in
> Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, and Windows
> Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352#5
>
> The question you have to establish is why is it intervening? Are you
> running any older software from a previous computer?
>
> How and what are you copying? Please describe in detail? Does it involve
> external media e.g. CD / DVD and software like Roxio and the like?
>
>
> --
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> jj wrote:
>> DEP is happening in WinXP SP3. this is not a vista OS. It was a vista
>> machine and i deleted it and installed XP Pro.I have not added any
>> copying utility. this problem has just started happening. could it be
>> a virus or something? i have done a full scan using McAfee. i have
>> windows defender installed, and i have taken all the protection i
>> can. it shows in the DEP allert that windows copy utility is a window
>> program
>> thanks
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%231MmsdhAKHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> jj
>>>
>>> Have you downloaded a third party Copy utility?
>>>
>>> Clipboard is provided with Windows XP
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(software)
>>>
>>> DEP =Data Execution Prevention
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention
>>>
>>> Whatever your windows copy utility is not acceptable to DEP!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> jj wrote:
>>>> Why does The "DEP" keep closing windows copy utility? This problem
>>>> just started happening and I do not know what is causing it to
>>>> happer. What is window copy utility?
>>>>
>>>> thanks

This is beginning to sound increasingly like malware or like a virus. Have
you tried googling for the *exact* text of the error message you see?

"jj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
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> i am not trying to copy anything. This happens at startup. it says that
> the aurthor of windows copy utility is microsoft corporation. this
> computer originally had vista on it. i formatted the HD and installed XP
> SP3, but that was a year ago. there have been no recient installs or
> changes.
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23zI1W6kAKHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> jj
>>
>> I do not know much about DEP. My current system has the default Opt In
>> setting.
>>
>> A detailed description of the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) feature in
>> Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, and Windows
>> Server 2003
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352#5
>>
>> The question you have to establish is why is it intervening? Are you
>> running any older software from a previous computer?
>>
>> How and what are you copying? Please describe in detail? Does it involve
>> external media e.g. CD / DVD and software like Roxio and the like?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> jj wrote:
>>> DEP is happening in WinXP SP3. this is not a vista OS. It was a vista
>>> machine and i deleted it and installed XP Pro.I have not added any
>>> copying utility. this problem has just started happening. could it be
>>> a virus or something? i have done a full scan using McAfee. i have
>>> windows defender installed, and i have taken all the protection i
>>> can. it shows in the DEP allert that windows copy utility is a window
>>> program
>>> thanks
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%231MmsdhAKHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> jj
>>>>
>>>> Have you downloaded a third party Copy utility?
>>>>
>>>> Clipboard is provided with Windows XP
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(software)
>>>>
>>>> DEP =Data Execution Prevention
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention
>>>>
>>>> Whatever your windows copy utility is not acceptable to DEP!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jj wrote:
>>>>> Why does The "DEP" keep closing windows copy utility? This problem
>>>>> just started happening and I do not know what is causing it to
>>>>> happer. What is window copy utility?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>
>

I mis-spoke the program that DEP has been shutting down. It is extended copy
utility and it shows the publisher as windown corp. the exact error number:
0x80072ee2 and the supporting site is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/836941

I have tried all the fixes listed in the above link except method D because
my sat internet will not work w/o the accelerator software running. i did go
to the update page after trying the steps in the link and recieved three
other updates and they installed fine. The "Microsoft-Other Hardware-HID
Non-User Input Data Filter" still fails to update.

Thanks
jj

"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OBDzDqyAKHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> This is beginning to sound increasingly like malware or like a virus. Have
> you tried googling for the *exact* text of the error message you see?
>
> "jj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> news:ae49$4a5a34a2$9441196c$22525@STARBAND.NET...
>> i am not trying to copy anything. This happens at startup. it says that
>> the aurthor of windows copy utility is microsoft corporation. this
>> computer originally had vista on it. i formatted the HD and installed XP
>> SP3, but that was a year ago. there have been no recient installs or
>> changes.
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23zI1W6kAKHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> jj
>>>
>>> I do not know much about DEP. My current system has the default Opt In
>>> setting.
>>>
>>> A detailed description of the Data Execution Prevention (DEP) feature in
>>> Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005, and
>>> Windows Server 2003
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352#5
>>>
>>> The question you have to establish is why is it intervening? Are you
>>> running any older software from a previous computer?
>>>
>>> How and what are you copying? Please describe in detail? Does it involve
>>> external media e.g. CD / DVD and software like Roxio and the like?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> jj wrote:
>>>> DEP is happening in WinXP SP3. this is not a vista OS. It was a vista
>>>> machine and i deleted it and installed XP Pro.I have not added any
>>>> copying utility. this problem has just started happening. could it be
>>>> a virus or something? i have done a full scan using McAfee. i have
>>>> windows defender installed, and i have taken all the protection i
>>>> can. it shows in the DEP allert that windows copy utility is a window
>>>> program
>>>> thanks
>>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%231MmsdhAKHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> jj
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you downloaded a third party Copy utility?
>>>>>
>>>>> Clipboard is provided with Windows XP
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_(software)
>>>>>
>>>>> DEP =Data Execution Prevention
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Execution_Prevention
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever your windows copy utility is not acceptable to DEP!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>> FCA
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> jj wrote:
>>>>>> Why does The "DEP" keep closing windows copy utility? This problem
>>>>>> just started happening and I do not know what is causing it to
>>>>>> happer. What is window copy utility?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>
>>
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