On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:43:23 -0700, Ed Jay <edMbj@aes-intl.com> wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:55:27 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fangnail
> ><richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> >> There was a time when users had an antivirus and an antispyware. Do
> >> you think antivirus programs TODAY cover both things?
> >
> >
> >No they don't.
> >
> >
> >> I used to have Spybot and then Lavasoft (Ad-Aware). They were okay
> >> although they never found anything. When I upgraded my Kaspersky this
> >> April, it FORCED me to remove these two spywares and all their
> >> remnants.
> >>
> >> If it's helpful to have an "antispyware" program, what do you
> >> recommend?
> >
> >
> >It's more than helpful; it's practically required.
> >
> >Two points:
> >
> >1. The best free anti-spyware program, and it's excellent, is
> >Anti-Malware, by MalwareBytes. Get it at
> >http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php
> >
> >2. In my view, no anti-spyware program is perfect, so no single
> >anti-spyware program is sufficient for protection. You should run at
> >least two. The second best is SuperAntiSpyware. Get it at
> >http://www.superantispyware.com/
>
> Both products look interesting. Is there any significant performance hit
> to pay for the constant scanning or monitoring by using these
> concurrently?


You should never run two such programs concurrently. Not only can
there be a performance hit, but you can have programs with them
interfering with each other. Run periodic scans with them, but not at
the same time.



>
> I recently updated SpybotS/D and AddAware to accompany nod32. I'm saddened
> to read in this thread that both are of compromised quality.
>
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"Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
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> I stopped using Spybot a few years ago because somebody ran tests on
> it and it hardly found the spywares.

I ran tests on it, and it always found spywares. Now would you use it?
Seriously, those tests are often biased by what they offer the
spyware to be found. There are so many of them that there is not yet a
turn-key program that can catch all of them. My experience with Spybot
is good and I also use Adaware. One thing I like about Spybot is that it
makes HOSTS file entries so you won't even be able to visit those dirty
sites should you get redirected to one.
Adaware and Spybot find the most things on my machine. It's best to
have about three different spyware detectors on hand is still a good
rule of thumb.

> Ad-Aware seemed okay but I hated the interface.

But it does a decent job and has its strengths.
>
> Apparently Windows Defender is hard to download as it requires a
> license and other things.

EVERY program you use has a license! It's also easy to download and
install. OTOH, it's a program I've never personally seen catch
anything. But, that's because I don't do things to get the things it
would find. Or, I haven't yet, anyway. I only run it when I know I have
something wrong; else I never bother with it.
>
> Do you have an opinion on Microsoft's Malicious Software thing that is
> released every month?

IMO it's a good thing and works well. The one time it fixes something
others don't will make it worthwhile to have.

Whatever made you think you don't need anything but antivirus was wrong!
That's why it's called anti-VIRUS. Other things they try to do they
never do very well.

Another little problem of mine is applications that refuse to let you
run this program or that program; those are totally unacceptable but
becoming more a fact of life every day. Symantec does that too, but in
reality it only means you have to uninstall it for the Norton
Installation. After the install, I put my apps back and all has been
fine since. Not even any falise hits and no interactions whatsoever. So
sometimes you have to check into WHY they say those things.

HTH,

Twayne`

funny, you should
ask.

free anti virus programs
are hybrid spywares.

they track everything
they scan in payment
for using them.

just have to break out
the magnifying glass
and read their term and
conditions and privacy
statements.

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"Richard Fangnail" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote in message
news:88acdf00-9e7d-4098-92ff-daf7ac80ce18@y10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> There was a time when users had an antivirus and an antispyware. Do
> you think antivirus programs TODAY cover both things?
>
> I used to have Spybot and then Lavasoft (Ad-Aware). They were okay
> although they never found anything. When I upgraded my Kaspersky this
> April, it FORCED me to remove these two spywares and all their
> remnants.
>
> If it's helpful to have an "antispyware" program, what do you
> recommend?