After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things running
slow.

I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF usage
was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching the
processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different IE.exe
files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were closed.

Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.

I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page within
the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you open
and close each IE8 window.

If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes, along
with copy/paste not working.

The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and leaves
you stuck.

Any ideas?

[Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]

Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
this newsgroup.

Please answer the following questions by number:

1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?

2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To start
IE in No Add-ons mode:

=> Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
Add-ons; or

=> Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
Explorer (No add-ons).

Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx

3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!

4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
[Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]

5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
Were any of these applications running in the background when you installed
IE8?

5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
(e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

6. Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do you
have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
> running
> slow.
>
> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
> also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF
> usage
> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching the
> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different IE.exe
> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
> closed.
>
> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>
> I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page
> within
> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you
> open and close each IE8 window.
>
> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes, along
> with copy/paste not working.
>
> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and leaves
> you stuck.
>
> Any ideas?

Thanks for your response.

1. XP Home-Current
2. Set as ‘No Add-Ons’ from initial install
3. While similar, those are not the problems I’m having.
4. Not going there…this accumulation can sometimes take days to build up,
and that’s with heavy IE usage. Since my last reboot, I’m up from 300MB to
1.14GB now, and showing 5 different iexplore.exe listed now, with only two IE
windows open containing a total of 3 pages between them.
5. Trend Micro-Current…Trend’s not compatible with other Anti-Spyware apps,
none are existent, and no other Mc or Nort has ever been installed.
6. Installing IE8 creates a restore point, no intention of using it here.

Everything with IE8 works flawlessly with no other system problems,
including heavy use programs running simultaneously. The exception being,
slow and crawling drop down menus on page headers.

-Thanks for your input.

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>
> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
> this newsgroup.
>
> Please answer the following questions by number:
>
> 1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?
>
> 2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To start
> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>
> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
> Add-ons; or
>
> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
> Explorer (No add-ons).
>
> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>
> 3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>
> 4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
> [Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]
>
> 5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
> Were any of these applications running in the background when you installed
> IE8?
>
> 5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this machine
> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
>
> 6. Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do you
> have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> > After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
> > running
> > slow.
> >
> > I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
> > also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF
> > usage
> > was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching the
> > processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different IE.exe
> > files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
> > closed.
> >
> > Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
> >
> > I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page
> > within
> > the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you
> > open and close each IE8 window.
> >
> > If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> > within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> > non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes, along
> > with copy/paste not working.
> >
> > The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and leaves
> > you stuck.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
>

Lagarto_Roca

Minimising multi-tasking will help. Putting shortcuts like Show Desktop,
Internet Explorer, Outlook Express and Windows Explorer in the Quick
Launch Tray may help to encourage you to close these applications after
use as it is easy to reopen them when required.

Close and relaunch Internet Explorer at regular intervals

--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
> running slow.
>
> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
> slow also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed
> the PF usage was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB.
> In searching the processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I
> noticed 13 different IE.exe files listed and all had massive amounts
> used, yet all windows were closed.
>
> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>
> I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page
> within the same window, it curtails the effect but is still
> accumulative as you open and close each IE8 window.
>
> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes,
> along with copy/paste not working.
>
> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
> leaves you stuck.
>
> Any ideas?

[What's with the combative tone? I'm a volunteer and do not represent or
work for Microsoft. If you don't like my questions, feel free to ignore my
posts.]

1. Is "Security Update for IE8 (KB969897)" listed in Add/Remove Programs?

2. Has IE8 always been starting in No Add-ons mode since you installed it?

3. Try Resetting IE Advanced Settings (RIES) anyway, please.

4. Please re-read previous #4 and try it briefly. Doing so won't have any
effect on your "accumulations" (whatever they are).

5. Please re-read previous #5a and answer the last question (i.e., Was the
Trend Micro application, whatever it is, running in the background when you
installed IE8?)

6. I didn't say anything (yet) about using the Restore Point, did I?


Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> Thanks for your response.
>
> 1. XP Home-Current
> 2. Set as ‘No Add-Ons’ from initial install
> 3. While similar, those are not the problems I’m having.
> 4. Not going there…this accumulation can sometimes take days to build up,
> and that’s with heavy IE usage. Since my last reboot, I’m up from 300MB
> to
> 1.14GB now, and showing 5 different iexplore.exe listed now, with only two
> IE windows open containing a total of 3 pages between them.
> 5. Trend Micro-Current…Trend’s not compatible with other Anti-Spyware
> apps,
> none are existent, and no other Mc or Nort has ever been installed.
> 6. Installing IE8 creates a restore point, no intention of using it here.
>
> Everything with IE8 works flawlessly with no other system problems,
> including heavy use programs running simultaneously. The exception being,
> slow and crawling drop down menus on page headers.
>
> -Thanks for your input.
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>>
>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
>> this newsgroup.
>>
>> Please answer the following questions by number:
>>
>> 1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?
>>
>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To
>> start
>> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>>
>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
>> Add-ons; or
>>
>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
>> Explorer (No add-ons).
>>
>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>>
>> 3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>>
>> 4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
>> [Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]
>>
>> 5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
>> installed
>> IE8?
>>
>> 5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>> machine
>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
>>
>> 6. Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do you
>> have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
>>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
>>> running
>>> slow.
>>>
>>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
>>> also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF
>>> usage
>>> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching
>>> the
>>> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different
>>> IE.exe
>>> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
>>> closed.
>>>
>>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>>>
>>> I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page
>>> within
>>> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you
>>> open and close each IE8 window.
>>>
>>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
>>> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
>>> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes,
>>> along
>>> with copy/paste not working.
>>>
>>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
>>> leaves
>>> you stuck.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?

My apologies, you have mistaken my to the point responses as somehow curt,
that is not, nor would it be my intention regardless of one’s forum status.
I shall elaborate.

1. The Security Update # KB969897, installed on 6-10-09 after the initial
IE8 install completed.
2. Yes, IE8 has always been starting in No Add-ons mode; this was set as ‘No
Add-Ons’ from initial install date.
3. I am familiar with the reset feature in using IE7, even though my
symptoms differ from what’s described in #KB923737, clearing of the settings
was something done early on. I’ll venture down that path and reset again,
but this will take 3-5 days to test and report back.
4. No, the problem does not occur after booting to safe mode or SM+net. It
also doesn’t occur after booting to normal, as rebooting clears the problem.
Since it takes 3+ days of usage for the various iexplore.exe processes to
appear (accumulate) and pull things down, I disregarded trying it again per
your instructions, “Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to
test!�
5. No programs were running during install, along with any firewall disabled.
6. “Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!!� Okay, I’m
just confirming no intent to proceed there now.

When I discovered this, no IE windows were in use and all temp/browser files
were cleared. I was working with editing HD .ts files, and these video
programs are usage hogs. In reviewing through the processes running for a
clue to the slowdown, that’s when I ran across the 13 different ie processes
listed as running, yet none are use.

Please excuse my lengthy post, it is in no way presented as argumentative,
only trying to be precise and clear any misconceptions. I shall try #’s 3
and 4 again and report back the results after running a several days, unless
there is any additional input.

Thanks again for your response.


"Lagarto_Roca" wrote:

> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things running
> slow.
>
> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
> also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF usage
> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching the
> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different IE.exe
> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were closed.
>
> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>
> I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page within
> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you open
> and close each IE8 window.
>
> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes, along
> with copy/paste not working.
>
> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and leaves
> you stuck.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>

Please reply to and quote my post, not yours. Also please continue the
crosspost to IE General newsgroup. Thank you.

Something is very wrong with your computer. Properly installed, IE8 does
not start in No Add-ons mode by default.

If Google Toolbar is installed, does the behavior persist after you
uninstall it?

Does the behavior persist in your previous IE version after you uninstall
IE8?

How to uninstall or remove Internet Explorer 8
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> My apologies, you have mistaken my to the point responses as somehow curt,
> that is not, nor would it be my intention regardless of one’s forum
> status.
> I shall elaborate.
>
> 1. The Security Update # KB969897, installed on 6-10-09 after the initial
> IE8 install completed.
> 2. Yes, IE8 has always been starting in No Add-ons mode; this was set as
> ‘No
> Add-Ons’ from initial install date.
> 3. I am familiar with the reset feature in using IE7, even though my
> symptoms differ from what’s described in #KB923737, clearing of the
> settings
> was something done early on. I’ll venture down that path and reset again,
> but this will take 3-5 days to test and report back.
> 4. No, the problem does not occur after booting to safe mode or SM+net.
> It
> also doesn’t occur after booting to normal, as rebooting clears the
> problem.
> Since it takes 3+ days of usage for the various iexplore.exe processes to
> appear (accumulate) and pull things down, I disregarded trying it again
> per
> your instructions, “Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to
> test!�
> 5. No programs were running during install, along with any firewall
> disabled.
> 6. “Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!!� Okay, I’m
> just confirming no intent to proceed there now.
>
> When I discovered this, no IE windows were in use and all temp/browser
> files
> were cleared. I was working with editing HD .ts files, and these video
> programs are usage hogs. In reviewing through the processes running for a
> clue to the slowdown, that’s when I ran across the 13 different ie
> processes
> listed as running, yet none are use.
>
> Please excuse my lengthy post, it is in no way presented as argumentative,
> only trying to be precise and clear any misconceptions. I shall try #’s 3
> and 4 again and report back the results after running a several days,
> unless
> there is any additional input.
>
> Thanks again for your response.
<paste>
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> [What's with the combative tone? I'm a volunteer and do not represent or
> work for Microsoft. If you don't like my questions, feel free to ignore
> my
> posts.]
>
> 1. Is "Security Update for IE8 (KB969897)" listed in Add/Remove Programs?
>
> 2. Has IE8 always been starting in No Add-ons mode since you installed it?
>
> 3. Try Resetting IE Advanced Settings (RIES) anyway, please.
>
> 4. Please re-read previous #4 and try it briefly. Doing so won't have any
> effect on your "accumulations" (whatever they are).
>
> 5. Please re-read previous #5a and answer the last question (i.e., Was the
> Trend Micro application, whatever it is, running in the background when
> you
> installed IE8?)
>
> 6. I didn't say anything (yet) about using the Restore Point, did I?
>
>
> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>> 1. XP Home-Current
>> 2. Set as ‘No Add-Ons’ from initial install
>> 3. While similar, those are not the problems I’m having.
>> 4. Not going there…this accumulation can sometimes take days to build up,
>> and that’s with heavy IE usage. Since my last reboot, I’m up from 300MB
>> to
>> 1.14GB now, and showing 5 different iexplore.exe listed now, with only
>> two
>> IE windows open containing a total of 3 pages between them.
>> 5. Trend Micro-Current…Trend’s not compatible with other Anti-Spyware
>> apps,
>> none are existent, and no other Mc or Nort has ever been installed.
>> 6. Installing IE8 creates a restore point, no intention of using it here.
>>
>> Everything with IE8 works flawlessly with no other system problems,
>> including heavy use programs running simultaneously. The exception
>> being,
>> slow and crawling drop down menus on page headers.
>>
>> -Thanks for your input.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>>>
>>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
>>> this newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Please answer the following questions by number:
>>>
>>> 1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?
>>>
>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To
>>> start
>>> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>>>
>>> => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
>>> Add-ons; or
>>>
>>> => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
>>> Explorer (No add-ons).
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>>>
>>> 3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>>>
>>> 4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
>>> [Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]
>>>
>>> 5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
>>> installed
>>> IE8?
>>>
>>> 5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>>> machine
>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
>>>
>>> 6. Just asking for now!! Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do
>>> you
>>> have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>
>>>
>>> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
>>>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
>>>> running
>>>> slow.
>>>>
>>>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
>>>> slow
>>>> also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF
>>>> usage
>>>> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching
>>>> the
>>>> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different
>>>> IE.exe
>>>> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
>>>> closed.
>>>>
>>>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page
>>>> within
>>>> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as
>>>> you
>>>> open and close each IE8 window.
>>>>
>>>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
>>>> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
>>>> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes,
>>>> along
>>>> with copy/paste not working.
>>>>
>>>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
>>>> leaves
>>>> you stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ehJg0QE%23JHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Lagarto_Roca
>
> Minimising multi-tasking will help. Putting shortcuts like Show
> Desktop, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express and Windows Explorer in
> the Quick Launch Tray may help to encourage you to close these
> applications after use as it is easy to reopen them when required.
>
> Close and relaunch Internet Explorer at regular intervals
>
>
> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
>> running slow.
>>
>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
>> slow also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed
>> the PF usage was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB.
>> In searching the processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I
>> noticed 13 different IE.exe files listed and all had massive amounts
>> used, yet all windows were closed.
>>
>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB
>> usage. I've noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a
>> new page
>> within the same window, it curtails the effect but is still
>> accumulative as you open and close each IE8 window.
>>
>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of
>> pages within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow
>> or non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page
>> refreshes, along with copy/paste not working.
>>
>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
>> leaves you stuck.
>>
>> Any ideas?

It looks to me like IE8 has memory leaks but I can't find anything to
support that. Actually I pretty much know it does; I can see it. I
stopped using it and decided to wait for a couple of updates for it
before I try it again. I did like it, but it's full of annoying pauses
and slow downs.

HTH,

Twayne`

Every tab added increases memory usage by 40 mb approx. Measurements
obtained by comparing the Total figures under Commit Charge.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Twayne wrote:
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ehJg0QE%23JHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
>> Lagarto_Roca
>>
>> Minimising multi-tasking will help. Putting shortcuts like Show
>> Desktop, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express and Windows Explorer in
>> the Quick Launch Tray may help to encourage you to close these
>> applications after use as it is easy to reopen them when required.
>>
>> Close and relaunch Internet Explorer at regular intervals
>>
>>
>> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
>>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
>>> running slow.
>>>
>>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
>>> slow also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed
>>> the PF usage was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB.
>>> In searching the processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I
>>> noticed 13 different IE.exe files listed and all had massive amounts
>>> used, yet all windows were closed.
>>>
>>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB
>>> usage. I've noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a
>>> new page
>>> within the same window, it curtails the effect but is still
>>> accumulative as you open and close each IE8 window.
>>>
>>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of
>>> pages within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow
>>> or non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page
>>> refreshes, along with copy/paste not working.
>>>
>>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
>>> leaves you stuck.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>
> It looks to me like IE8 has memory leaks but I can't find anything to
> support that. Actually I pretty much know it does; I can see it. I
> stopped using it and decided to wait for a couple of updates for it
> before I try it again. I did like it, but it's full of annoying
> pauses and slow downs.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`

Thank you Twayne,

That is exactly what’s happening. I did wait a while until after some
updates to try the install. I have IE8 on multiple computers setup with
different configs and they all run fine with the typical normal IE
activities, and most of those are running with the cleared IE settings.
Until I move-in with my forum Moderator/Admin duties which require an
excessive amount of browser usage in multiple windows for hours on end.
After a few days, it starts to build up again on whichever system I’ve been
working on, and it starts to show when (non-IE) heavy usage programs are
launched.

I’ll probably just un-install it and go back to IE7. All of the threads on
this that I reviewed via a forum search were also left without answers and
presumably unsolved. When I ran across so many active ie.exe files in the
Task Mgr using massive amounts, I thought I’d post up the info here for
discussion. Instead, I seem to be drawn into debating how flags get set for
No Add-ons, which is an item selected in the program setup launch, IIRC.

Thank you for your input. I may start a trouble ticket with MS on this and
see where it leads. If we discover any solutions, I’ll post back to
contribute.

Thanks Again.


"Twayne" wrote:


>
> It looks to me like IE8 has memory leaks but I can't find anything to
> support that. Actually I pretty much know it does; I can see it. I
> stopped using it and decided to wait for a couple of updates for it
> before I try it again. I did like it, but it's full of annoying pauses
> and slow downs.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
>
>

Yeah, I've seen a few people posting here that would be interested if
workarounds etc. might come up but IMO it needs MS to straighten
something out. In typical MS fashion, it's not "really" production code
yet if you get my drift<g>.

Cheers,

Twayne




"Lagarto_Roca" <LagartoRoca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C2C77E92-704F-424D-8582-98D109413097@microsoft.com
> Thank you Twayne,
>
> That is exactly what's happening. I did wait a while until after some
> updates to try the install. I have IE8 on multiple computers setup
> with different configs and they all run fine with the typical normal
> IE activities, and most of those are running with the cleared IE
> settings. Until I move-in with my forum Moderator/Admin duties which
> require an excessive amount of browser usage in multiple windows for
> hours on end. After a few days, it starts to build up again on
> whichever system I've been working on, and it starts to show when
> (non-IE) heavy usage programs are launched.
>
> I'll probably just un-install it and go back to IE7. All of the
> threads on this that I reviewed via a forum search were also left
> without answers and presumably unsolved. When I ran across so many
> active ie.exe files in the Task Mgr using massive amounts, I thought
> I'd post up the info here for discussion. Instead, I seem to be
> drawn into debating how flags get set for No Add-ons, which is an
> item selected in the program setup launch, IIRC.
>
> Thank you for your input. I may start a trouble ticket with MS on
> this and see where it leads. If we discover any solutions, I'll post
> back to contribute.
>
> Thanks Again.
>
>
> "Twayne" wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It looks to me like IE8 has memory leaks but I can't find anything to
>> support that. Actually I pretty much know it does; I can see it. I
>> stopped using it and decided to wait for a couple of updates for it
>> before I try it again. I did like it, but it's full of annoying
>> pauses and slow downs.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Twayne`

Lagarto_Roca wrote:

> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things running
> slow.
>
> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to slow
> also. In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF usage
> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. In searching the
> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different IE.exe
> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were closed.
>
> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>
> I¢ve noticed a pattern though. If you continually launch a new page within
> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as you open
> and close each IE8 window.
>
> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes, along
> with copy/paste not working.
>
> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and leaves
> you stuck.
>
> Any ideas?

If all but 2 iexplore.exe are remaining after you see all windows
closing for IE8 then their processes are still running. There is no
requirement that a process have a window. If if the process requires
user I/O, it doesn't need to have a window until when it wants user I/O.

Kill all the remnant instances of iexplore.exe. Then see what happens
when you load IE8 in its no add-ons mode. Incompatible add-ons can keep
IE from completely exiting.

On Jun 28, 11:44*pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> Please reply to and quote my post, not yours. *Also please continue the
> crosspost to IE General newsgroup. *Thank you.
>
> Something is very wrong with your computer. *Properly installed, IE8 does
> not start in No Add-ons mode by default.
>
> If Google Toolbar is installed, does the behavior persist after you
> uninstall it?
>
> Does the behavior persist in your previous IE version after you uninstall
> IE8?
>
> How to uninstall or remove Internet Explorer 8http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
>
> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> > My apologies, you have mistaken my to the point responses as somehow curt,
> > that is not, nor would it be my intention regardless of one’s forum
> > status.
> > I shall elaborate.
>
> > 1. The Security Update # KB969897, installed on 6-10-09 after the initial
> > IE8 install completed.
> > 2. Yes, IE8 has always been starting in No Add-ons mode; this was set as
> > ‘No
> > Add-Ons’ from initial install date.
> > 3. I am familiar with the reset feature in using IE7, even though my
> > symptoms differ from what’s described in #KB923737, clearing of the
> > settings
> > was something done early on. *I’ll venture down that path and resetagain,
> > but this will take 3-5 days to test and report back.
> > 4. No, the problem does not occur after booting to safe mode or SM+net.
> > It
> > also doesn’t occur after booting to normal, as rebooting clears the
> > problem.
> > Since it takes 3+ days of usage for the various iexplore.exe processes to
> > appear (accumulate) and pull things down, I disregarded trying it again
> > per
> > your instructions, “Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to
> > test!”
> > 5. No programs were running during install, along with any firewall
> > disabled.
> > 6. “Just asking for now!! *Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!!”*Okay, I’m
> > just confirming no intent to proceed there now.
>
> > When I discovered this, no IE windows were in use and all temp/browser
> > files
> > were cleared. *I was working with editing HD .ts files, and these video
> > programs are usage hogs. *In reviewing through the processes running for a
> > clue to the slowdown, that’s when I ran across the 13 different ie
> > processes
> > listed as running, yet none are use.
>
> > Please excuse my lengthy post, it is in no way presented as argumentative,
> > only trying to be precise and clear any misconceptions. *I shall try #’s 3
> > and 4 again and report back the results after running a several days,
> > unless
> > there is any additional input.
>
> > Thanks again for your response.
>
> <paste>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>
> > [What's with the combative tone? *I'm a volunteer and do not represent or
> > work for Microsoft. *If you don't like my questions, feel free to ignore
> > my
> > posts.]
>
> > 1. Is "Security Update for IE8 (KB969897)" listed in Add/Remove Programs?
>
> > 2. Has IE8 always been starting in No Add-ons mode since you installed it?
>
> > 3. Try Resetting IE Advanced Settings (RIES) anyway, please.
>
> > 4. Please re-read previous #4 and try it briefly. *Doing so won't have any
> > effect on your "accumulations" (whatever they are).
>
> > 5. Please re-read previous #5a and answer the last question (i.e., Was the
> > Trend Micro application, whatever it is, running in the background when
> > you
> > installed IE8?)
>
> > 6. I didn't say anything (yet) about using the Restore Point, did I?
>
> > Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> >> Thanks for your response.
>
> >> 1. XP Home-Current
> >> 2. Set as ‘No Add-Ons’ from initial install
> >> 3. While similar, those are not the problems I’m having.
> >> 4. Not going there…this accumulation can sometimes take days to build up,
> >> and that’s with heavy IE usage. *Since my last reboot, I’m up from 300MB
> >> to
> >> 1.14GB now, and showing 5 different iexplore.exe listed now, with only
> >> two
> >> IE windows open containing a total of 3 pages between them.
> >> 5. Trend Micro-Current…Trend’s not compatible with other Anti-Spyware
> >> apps,
> >> none are existent, and no other Mc or Nort has ever been installed.
> >> 6. Installing IE8 creates a restore point, no intention of using it here.
>
> >> Everything with IE8 works flawlessly with no other system problems,
> >> including heavy use programs running simultaneously. *The exception
> >> being,
> >> slow and crawling drop down menus on page headers.
>
> >> -Thanks for your input.
>
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> >>> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>
> >>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when postingto
> >>> this newsgroup.
>
> >>> Please answer the following questions by number:
>
> >>> 1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?
>
> >>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? *To
> >>> start
> >>> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>
> >>> * *=> Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
> >>> Add-ons; or
>
> >>> * *=> Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
> >>> Explorer (No add-ons).
>
> >>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
> >>>http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>
> >>> 3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
> >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737<= Read before using!
>
> >>> 4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
> >>> [Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]
>
> >>> 5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
> >>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? *What anti-spyware
> >>> applications (other than Defender)? *What third-party firewall (if any)?
> >>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
> >>> installed
> >>> IE8?
>
> >>> 5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
> >>> machine
> >>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?
>
> >>> 6. Just asking for now!! *Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do
> >>> you
> >>> have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
> >>> --
> >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
> >>> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> >>>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
> >>>> running
> >>>> slow.
>
> >>>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
> >>>> slow
> >>>> also. *In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed thePF
> >>>> usage
> >>>> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. *In searching
> >>>> the
> >>>> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different
> >>>> IE.exe
> >>>> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
> >>>> closed.
>
> >>>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.
>
> >>>> I’ve noticed a pattern though. *If you continually launch a new page
> >>>> within
> >>>> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as
> >>>> you
> >>>> open and close each IE8 window.
>
> >>>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> >>>> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> >>>> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes,
> >>>> along
> >>>> with copy/paste not working.
>
> >>>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
> >>>> leaves
> >>>> you stuck.
>
> >>>> Any ideas?

I would try Firefox and see if the problem persists. IE seems to be
among the least functional of all the available browsers.