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Old 06-07-2009, 10:20 AM
robgraham
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Can't connect using network

I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so I
use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.

At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box 'obtain
an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and restarted it
and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router. Now I'm stuck
with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does not appear to be
the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router I'm using.

Can anyone help here?

Ta

Rob Graham


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Old 06-07-2009, 10:30 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network


"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
>use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so I
>use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.
>
> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
> started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box
> 'obtain an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and
> restarted it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router.
> Now I'm stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does
> not appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router
> I'm using.
>
> Can anyone help here?
>
> Ta
>
> Rob Graham


You need to tell us the IP address used by your router. You also need to
post the output from this command:

ipconfig /all


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Old 06-07-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Can't connect using network

"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
>use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so I
>use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.
>
> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
> started the WZC,


If you're connecting via wire, this has no influence.


I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box 'obtain
> an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and restarted
> it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router. Now I'm
> stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does not
> appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router I'm
> using.
>
> Can anyone help here?


Does the service cross fuse or breaker panels? If so, many, if not all,
powerline adapters are defeated by this.

HTH
-pk


>
> Ta
>
> Rob Graham
>



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Old 06-08-2009, 01:10 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network


"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
>>use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so
>>I use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.
>>
>> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
>> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
>> started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box
>> 'obtain an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and
>> restarted it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router.
>> Now I'm stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does
>> not appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router
>> I'm using.
>>
>> Can anyone help here?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>> Rob Graham

>
> You need to tell us the IP address used by your router. You also need to
> post the output from this command:
>
> ipconfig /all
>



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Old 06-08-2009, 01:21 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network


"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
>>use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so
>>I use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.
>>
>> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
>> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
>> started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box
>> 'obtain an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and
>> restarted it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router.
>> Now I'm stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does
>> not appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router
>> I'm using.
>>
>> Can anyone help here?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>> Rob Graham

>
> You need to tell us the IP address used by your router. You also need to
> post the output from this command:
>
> ipconfig /all
>



Router IP 192.168.1.64

ipconfig /all output -

Host name: Graham
Primary DNS suffix::
Node Type: Mixed
IP Routing Enabled: No
WINS Proxy Enabled: No
DNS Suffix Search List: home

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix: home
Description: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
Physical address: 00-18-F3-77-FD-A7
Dhcp enabled: Yes
IP address: 192.168.1.66
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
DHCP Server:192.168.1.254
DNS Servers:192.168.1.254
Lease obtained: 08 June 2009 00:57:50
Lease expires: 09 June 2009 00:57:50



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Old 06-08-2009, 01:21 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network


"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I also
>>use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless connection so
>>I use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's mains.
>>
>> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
>> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
>> started the WZC,

>
> If you're connecting via wire, this has no influence.


It seems to tho'. I've had this before and managed to correct it, but can't
now.
>
>
> I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box 'obtain
>> an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and restarted
>> it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and router. Now I'm
>> stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is finding does not
>> appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose Home Hub router I'm
>> using.
>>
>> Can anyone help here?

>
> Does the service cross fuse or breaker panels?


No

If so, many, if not all,
> powerline adapters are defeated by this.


Sure. But this has worked previously.

Rob



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Old 06-08-2009, 01:50 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network


"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:uNidnaUlubvUSrHXnZ2dnUVZ8sKdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:uK8F6055JHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to the
>>>net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly. I
>>>also use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless
>>>connection so I use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the house's
>>>mains.
>>>
>>> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
>>> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
>>> started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box
>>> 'obtain an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and
>>> restarted it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and
>>> router. Now I'm stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is
>>> finding does not appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose
>>> Home Hub router I'm using.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help here?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>> Rob Graham

>>
>> You need to tell us the IP address used by your router. You also need to
>> post the output from this command:
>>
>> ipconfig /all
>>

>
>
> Router IP 192.168.1.64
>
> ipconfig /all output -
>
> Host name: Graham
> Primary DNS suffix::
> Node Type: Mixed
> IP Routing Enabled: No
> WINS Proxy Enabled: No
> DNS Suffix Search List: home
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix: home
> Description: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
> Physical address: 00-18-F3-77-FD-A7
> Dhcp enabled: Yes
> IP address: 192.168.1.66
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
> DHCP Server:192.168.1.254
> DNS Servers:192.168.1.254
> Lease obtained: 08 June 2009 00:57:50
> Lease expires: 09 June 2009 00:57:50


Your report tells me this:
- Your router's IP address is 192.168.1.64
- Your Gateway address is 192.168.1.254
- Your DNS server address is 192.168.1.254
- Your PC's IP address is 192.168.1.66

There is something wrong here. In order to get onto the Internet, your
Gateway and DNS addresses must point at your router. They don't - they point
at 192.168.1.254. Which device owns this address?

Here is what I would expect to find:
- Router address: 192.168.1.254
- Gateway addresss: 192.168.1.254
- DNS server address: 192.168.1.254
- PC IP address: 192.168.1.66


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Old 06-08-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Can't connect using network

WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
posted.



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"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:uNidnaUlubvUSrHXnZ2dnUVZ8sKdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:uK8F6055JHA.1420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ZrCdnTw9c8cqnrHXnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>I have a desktop and a laptop, both using XP. The desktop connects to
>>>>the net via a router and I can (usually) connect the laptop wirelessly.
>>>>I also use the laptop at a distance too great to obtain a wireless
>>>>connection so I use a Belkin Powerline adaptor to connect via the
>>>>house's mains.
>>>>
>>>> At the moment I am unable to get connected either wirelessly or via the
>>>> Belkin. Messages tell me that I have limited or no connectivity. I've
>>>> started the WZC, I've checked the 'TCP/IP' box, I've checked the box
>>>> 'obtain an IP address automatically', I've closed the computer down and
>>>> restarted it and I've disconnected and reconnected the cables and
>>>> router. Now I'm stuck with no success. The IP address the machine is
>>>> finding does not appear to be the correct one - according to BT whose
>>>> Home Hub router I'm using.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone help here?
>>>>
>>>> Ta
>>>>
>>>> Rob Graham
>>>
>>> You need to tell us the IP address used by your router. You also need to
>>> post the output from this command:
>>>
>>> ipconfig /all
>>>

>>
>>
>> Router IP 192.168.1.64
>>
>> ipconfig /all output -
>>
>> Host name: Graham
>> Primary DNS suffix::
>> Node Type: Mixed
>> IP Routing Enabled: No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled: No
>> DNS Suffix Search List: home
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix: home
>> Description: Realtek RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC
>> Physical address: 00-18-F3-77-FD-A7
>> Dhcp enabled: Yes
>> IP address: 192.168.1.66
>> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
>> DHCP Server:192.168.1.254
>> DNS Servers:192.168.1.254
>> Lease obtained: 08 June 2009 00:57:50
>> Lease expires: 09 June 2009 00:57:50

>
> Your report tells me this:
> - Your router's IP address is 192.168.1.64
> - Your Gateway address is 192.168.1.254
> - Your DNS server address is 192.168.1.254
> - Your PC's IP address is 192.168.1.66
>
> There is something wrong here. In order to get onto the Internet, your
> Gateway and DNS addresses must point at your router. They don't - they
> point at 192.168.1.254. Which device owns this address?
>
> Here is what I would expect to find:
> - Router address: 192.168.1.254
> - Gateway addresss: 192.168.1.254
> - DNS server address: 192.168.1.254
> - PC IP address: 192.168.1.66
>


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Old 06-09-2009, 12:40 AM
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"The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
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> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
> posted.
>


In which case, where do I go from here?

Rob


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"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
> news:HQgXl.34899$ZP4.371@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
>> posted.
>>

>
> In which case, where do I go from here?
>
> Rob


It's up to you. The "The Real Truth MVP" is a well-known troll who takes
pleasure in dishing out misleading advice. He is likely to respond by saying
that everyone else is a troll.


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Old 06-09-2009, 03:20 AM
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"Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:kJCdnT1el5DJg7PXnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
>> news:HQgXl.34899$ZP4.371@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
>>> posted.
>>>

>>
>> In which case, where do I go from here?
>>
>> Rob

>
> It's up to you. The "The Real Truth MVP" is a well-known troll who takes
> pleasure in dishing out misleading advice. He is likely to respond by
> saying that everyone else is a troll.
>


I meant, if my IPs are in fact OK how do I cure my problem?

Rob


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"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Ow99H0O6JHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:kJCdnT1el5DJg7PXnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
>>> news:HQgXl.34899$ZP4.371@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>>> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
>>>> posted.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In which case, where do I go from here?
>>>
>>> Rob

>>
>> It's up to you. The "The Real Truth MVP" is a well-known troll who takes
>> pleasure in dishing out misleading advice. He is likely to respond by
>> saying that everyone else is a troll.
>>

>
> I meant, if my IPs are in fact OK how do I cure my problem?
>
> Rob


What makes you think that your IP addresses are correct?
What is the device that uses 192.168.1.254?


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Old 06-09-2009, 08:50 AM
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Re: Can't connect using network

Try my Winsock Repair network tool. Download it here http://www.ms-mvp.org/

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"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:kJCdnT1el5DJg7PXnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
> news:HQgXl.34899$ZP4.371@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info he
>> posted.
>>

>
> In which case, where do I go from here?
>
> Rob
>


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"robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Ow99H0O6JHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:kJCdnT1el5DJg7PXnZ2dnUVZ8lGdnZ2d@bt.com...
> >>
> >> "The Real Truth MVP" <trt@void.com> wrote in message
> >> news:HQgXl.34899$ZP4.371@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >>> WHAT? your post is wrong and there is nothing wrong with the IP info

he
> >>> posted.
> >>>
> >>
> >> In which case, where do I go from here?
> >>
> >> Rob

> >
> > It's up to you. The "The Real Truth MVP" is a well-known troll who takes
> > pleasure in dishing out misleading advice. He is likely to respond by
> > saying that everyone else is a troll.
> >

>
> I meant, if my IPs are in fact OK how do I cure my problem?
>
> Rob


You could download and run the "Winsock Repair Tool", recommended by one of
the respondents in this thread. I will probably wreck your machine, thus
solving your networking problem. To get the general idea, type this into a
Google search box: "The Real Truth MVP" (complete with double quotes), then
look at a few of the numerous links.


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Old 06-09-2009, 09:10 AM
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In article <LewXl.25540$as4.16756@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, trt@void.com
says...
>
> Try my Winsock Repair network tool. Download it here
>


The site is not a MVP site, not associated with Microsoft, and the site
has a very bad reputation for hosting filthy pornographic materials.

You should avoid that site at all costs.

Search Google for reset winsock and click on the microsoft links - they
will give you Microsoft approved directions to reset winsock.

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