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Old 01-19-2007, 12:00 PM
Jethro
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Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.

My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.

I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/

I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
Taiyo Yuden.

Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".

Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.

I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
his "BCD". So I am asking here.

Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?

I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.

Jethro
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:15 PM
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RE: Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.

If the disk won't boot, making a copy likely won't solve that problem since
the original is flawed.

"Jethro" wrote:

> My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
> on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.
>
> I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
> Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/
>
> I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
> failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
> Taiyo Yuden.
>
> Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
> Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
> lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".
>
> Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
> right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
> the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.
>
> I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
> his "BCD". So I am asking here.
>
> Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
> step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?
>
> I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.
>
> Jethro
>

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Old 01-19-2007, 02:15 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.


"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
news:2v72r2ht02ti1s5qab2g4hkjviipockfgu@4ax.com...
> My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
> on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.
>
> I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
> Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/
>
> I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
> failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
> Taiyo Yuden.
>
> Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
> Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
> lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".
>
> Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
> right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
> the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.
>
> I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
> his "BCD". So I am asking here.
>
> Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
> step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?
>
> I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.
>
> Jethro


Your post is unclear. You say "Bart's program BCD does
everything fine until it checks the disk size." When does it do
this? The Bart PE boot CD will simply boot your machine
into a WinXP-like environment, that's all. If it fails during the
boot process then you should check it on some other machine -
your CD drive might be marginal.

Regardless of this, a Bart PE boot CD is ***not*** a suitable
tool to install Windows XP. You must use your WinXP CD for
this. Again, if your CD drive is marginal then the WinXP CD
will fail too!


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Old 01-19-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: Re: Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:03:30 +1100, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:2v72r2ht02ti1s5qab2g4hkjviipockfgu@4ax.com.. .
>> My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
>> on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.
>>
>> I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
>> Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/
>>
>> I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
>> failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
>> Taiyo Yuden.
>>
>> Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
>> Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
>> lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".
>>
>> Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
>> right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
>> the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.
>>
>> I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
>> his "BCD". So I am asking here.
>>
>> Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
>> step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?
>>
>> I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.
>>
>> Jethro

>
>Your post is unclear. You say "Bart's program BCD does
>everything fine until it checks the disk size." When does it do
>this? The Bart PE boot CD will simply boot your machine
>into a WinXP-like environment, that's all. If it fails during the
>boot process then you should check it on some other machine -
>your CD drive might be marginal.


His program sets up everything (runs 3-4 mins) and when it checks my
medium (namely the CD-R disk), as it is ready to do the actual burn,
it says the data will not fit, as I tried to describe. And if the
data exceeds the disk capacity indeed it will NOT fit. But the data
should not have exceeded the capacity.
So, I just dunno.....
>
>Regardless of this, a Bart PE boot CD is ***not*** a suitable
>tool to install Windows XP. You must use your WinXP CD for
>this. Again, if your CD drive is marginal then the WinXP CD
>will fail too!


Maybe so - I was just going on what he stated on his web page - that
his procedure would in fact create a bootable XP installation disk.

Maybe my only recourse is another disk from MS.


Thanks

Jethro
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Old 01-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Re: Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.


"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
news:ndg2r2d9odlmfohlv5c4vhscdsav7kfbpf@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:03:30 +1100, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
> >news:2v72r2ht02ti1s5qab2g4hkjviipockfgu@4ax.com.. .
> >> My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
> >> on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.
> >>
> >> I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
> >> Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/
> >>
> >> I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
> >> failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
> >> Taiyo Yuden.
> >>
> >> Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
> >> Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
> >> lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".
> >>
> >> Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
> >> right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
> >> the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.
> >>
> >> I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
> >> his "BCD". So I am asking here.
> >>
> >> Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
> >> step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?
> >>
> >> I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.
> >>
> >> Jethro

> >
> >Your post is unclear. You say "Bart's program BCD does
> >everything fine until it checks the disk size." When does it do
> >this? The Bart PE boot CD will simply boot your machine
> >into a WinXP-like environment, that's all. If it fails during the
> >boot process then you should check it on some other machine -
> >your CD drive might be marginal.

>
> His program sets up everything (runs 3-4 mins) and when it checks my
> medium (namely the CD-R disk), as it is ready to do the actual burn,
> it says the data will not fit, as I tried to describe. And if the
> data exceeds the disk capacity indeed it will NOT fit. But the data
> should not have exceeded the capacity.
> So, I just dunno.....
> >
> >Regardless of this, a Bart PE boot CD is ***not*** a suitable
> >tool to install Windows XP. You must use your WinXP CD for
> >this. Again, if your CD drive is marginal then the WinXP CD
> >will fail too!

>
> Maybe so - I was just going on what he stated on his web page - that
> his procedure would in fact create a bootable XP installation disk.
>
> Maybe my only recourse is another disk from MS.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jethro


The Bart PE weg page says that it creates a bootable XP CD. In
other words, it gives you a XP-like environment which is extremely
useful for trouble-shooting purposes. To install WinXP, boot from
your WinXP CD, not your Bart PE CD. And before asking MS for
a replacement, test your WinXP CD on some other machine. You
will probably find that it works perfectly well.
try your WinXP CD on


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Old 01-19-2007, 03:30 PM
Jethro
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Re: Re: Re: Need Help Making XP disk that will boot.

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:10:02 +1100, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:ndg2r2d9odlmfohlv5c4vhscdsav7kfbpf@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:03:30 +1100, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>> >news:2v72r2ht02ti1s5qab2g4hkjviipockfgu@4ax.com.. .
>> >> My WXP PRO SP2 instillation CD disk will no longer boot, but the files
>> >> on it seem fine. So I thought to make a copy that will boot.
>> >>
>> >> I am trying to use Bart's way to create bootable CD-Roms (for
>> >> Windows/Dos) at http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/wxp/
>> >>
>> >> I think I am doing everything right, but I have experienced the same
>> >> failure three times, using three different CD-R brands, including
>> >> Taiyo Yuden.
>> >>
>> >> Bart's program BCD does everything fine until it checks the disk size.
>> >> Then it says "Data will not fit on any disk". In fact it says a few
>> >> lines earlier that "Total Size = 1233 MB" and "LOUT start = 1234 MB".
>> >>
>> >> Since my WXP I386 files are coming right from a CD-R, This is not
>> >> right - I fail to understand why I am having a size problem. In fact
>> >> the I386 folder on my defunct CD-R = only 528MB.
>> >>
>> >> I would pose this question to Bart, but he states he doesn't support
>> >> his "BCD". So I am asking here.
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone tried this? Did it work? If so, is there a trick or a
>> >> step that I am missing? Where might the extra space be coming from?
>> >>
>> >> I would appreciate help. I will reward by adding U to my will.
>> >>
>> >> Jethro
>> >
>> >Your post is unclear. You say "Bart's program BCD does
>> >everything fine until it checks the disk size." When does it do
>> >this? The Bart PE boot CD will simply boot your machine
>> >into a WinXP-like environment, that's all. If it fails during the
>> >boot process then you should check it on some other machine -
>> >your CD drive might be marginal.

>>
>> His program sets up everything (runs 3-4 mins) and when it checks my
>> medium (namely the CD-R disk), as it is ready to do the actual burn,
>> it says the data will not fit, as I tried to describe. And if the
>> data exceeds the disk capacity indeed it will NOT fit. But the data
>> should not have exceeded the capacity.
>> So, I just dunno.....
>> >
>> >Regardless of this, a Bart PE boot CD is ***not*** a suitable
>> >tool to install Windows XP. You must use your WinXP CD for
>> >this. Again, if your CD drive is marginal then the WinXP CD
>> >will fail too!

>>
>> Maybe so - I was just going on what he stated on his web page - that
>> his procedure would in fact create a bootable XP installation disk.
>>
>> Maybe my only recourse is another disk from MS.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jethro

>
>The Bart PE weg page says that it creates a bootable XP CD. In
>other words, it gives you a XP-like environment which is extremely
>useful for trouble-shooting purposes. To install WinXP, boot from
>your WinXP CD, not your Bart PE CD. And before asking MS for
>a replacement, test your WinXP CD on some other machine. You
>will probably find that it works perfectly well.
>try your WinXP CD on
>


OK

Thanks

Jethro
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