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Old 05-10-2009, 01:40 PM
Twayne
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Re: firewall test and NAT

Leythos wrote:
> In article <ugxMzxL0JHA.5684@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>,
> nobody@devnull.spamcop.net says...
>>
>> Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <Kc6Nl.22445$9J5.1277@newsfe13.iad>,
>>> nobody@devnull.spamcop.net says...
>>>> So tell me, why do you love pcbutts
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you really think it's a place to discuss that? This is a XP group
>>> and should be limited to discussions about XP and solutions
>>> presented for problems related to XP.

>>
>> No, I do not. That's the imposter at work; not me.
>>
>> Twayne`

>
> Sorry, you're right, I failed to check the headers to verify it was
> you before I hit send in my reply.


Not a problem; let it flail away. But thanks for the comeback; nice to
see manners in this group; they're getting scarce with "it" around.
Twayne


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Old 05-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Twayne
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Re: firewall test and NAT

ToddAndMargo wrote:
....
> w7 really, really cleaned Vista up (except for XP program
> compatibility, but they are working an an "XP" box).
>
> -T


What pray tell is "working on an "XP" box"? Completely news to me.

Citations, URL, any verifiable reference at all please?

Regards,

Twayne



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Old 05-10-2009, 07:00 PM
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Twayne wrote:
> ToddAndMargo wrote:
> ...
>> w7 really, really cleaned Vista up (except for XP program
>> compatibility, but they are working an an "XP" box).
>>
>> -T

>
> What pray tell is "working on an "XP" box"? Completely news to me.
>
> Citations, URL, any verifiable reference at all please?
>
> Regards,
>
> Twayne
>


Since Twayne is rather well mannered, I presume this is the
impostor. But anyway, if anyone is interested, here is some
good reading material along those lines:

Windows 'XP mode': The new DOS box
http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.in...4681/188332/0/

Windows 7's 'XP mode': Glitches and annoyances
http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.in...4681/188333/0/

Microsoft's Windows 7 release candidate goes public
http://ifwnewsletters.newsletters.in...4681/188334/0/


-T
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:20 PM
ToddAndMargo
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Re: firewall test and NAT

Leythos wrote:

> I have thousands of customers that use IE and have never been
> compromised. While IE is an exploit path, it's not bad enough in a
> properly secured environment that you have to stop using it.


Hi Leythos,

I see computers compromised by IE *all-the-time*.
I recently dispatched, Sinowal which was a really fun one
(it's an MBR virus).

Your use of layered security is a really good
practice. Since IE is far more likely to be compromised
(just do a Google search on "security firefox Internet
explorer") than Firefox, Firefox would be another good layer
for you to add.

Firefox also has "Larry" the traffic cop, which keeps
you off of bad pages -- another good layer of security.
This, especially with AV products going down the dumpers!
(See: http://www.anti-malware-test.com/)

Not that I'd ever recommend this, but I had one
customer who had a three year expired Norton, who
used Firefox because I told her to, never caught a
virus in that three years. Last week I had another
user that I told to use Firefox go a year with
no antivirus at all and not catch anything. (To
come clean, both users were behind NAT.)

In the end, it is about what is the best for the
customer, not in defending one vendor or another's
pride. Except for the IE part, your layering is
a really good practice.

-T
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Old 05-10-2009, 07:30 PM
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Hi All,

I posted a question about appliance firewall over on
comp.os.linux.networking. A fascinating dialog insured.
On one of them, a responder gives an extremely scholarly
description on how to protect a Windows network.
Another posted actually excised one of those viruses
this infects web pages. And he gives code and lots of
details. (If you are an apologist for IE and/or Outlook,
I do not recommend you read this, as it will make your
blood boil.)

Start of the dialog:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....0977806cda8265

The firewall how to for Windows:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....d9b83112945772

The IFRAME exploit:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....8?dmode=source

-T
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Old 05-11-2009, 10:30 AM
Twayne
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ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I posted a question about appliance firewall over on
> comp.os.linux.networking. A fascinating dialog insured.
> On one of them, a responder gives an extremely scholarly
> description on how to protect a Windows network.
> Another posted actually excised one of those viruses
> this infects web pages. And he gives code and lots of
> details. (If you are an apologist for IE and/or Outlook,
> I do not recommend you read this, as it will make your
> blood boil.)


Not likely to boil my blood; anyone can post anything they want to, real
or imagined, factual or not. There is little supporting information of
any kind that can't be found on the 'net. It's not exactly new to
reference self-serving links, after all.

>
> Start of the dialog:
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....0977806cda8265
>
> The firewall how to for Windows:
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....d9b83112945772
>
> The IFRAME exploit:
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....8?dmode=source
>
> -T




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Old 05-27-2009, 10:10 PM
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 15:28:14 -0700, "Leythos" <spam9999free@rrohio.com>
wrote:

>Forget my last post I was wrong, you need to format your hd and reinstall
>windows.


For the archives, this is a forged post and the advice is bogus.

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