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Old 01-12-2007, 04:15 AM
JohnSmith1
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Does this make sense?

I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer has
the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE." Is
that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up from
CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset it does
go through POST. Am I wrong?

Any explanation please?
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Old 01-12-2007, 04:15 AM
R. McCarty
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Re: Does this make sense?

See the following, scroll to the Windows NT section:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Alt-Delete

"JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AFAE3D63-A80D-432C-88C6-291CAD2DE48A@microsoft.com...
>I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer has
> the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE."
> Is
> that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up from
> CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset it
> does
> go through POST. Am I wrong?
>
> Any explanation please?



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Old 01-12-2007, 04:45 AM
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Re: Does this make sense?

Thanks I have read it but still it does not response my question.

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> See the following, scroll to the Windows NT section:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Alt-Delete
>
> "JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AFAE3D63-A80D-432C-88C6-291CAD2DE48A@microsoft.com...
> >I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer has
> > the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE."
> > Is
> > that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up from
> > CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset it
> > does
> > go through POST. Am I wrong?
> >
> > Any explanation please?

>
>
>

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Old 01-12-2007, 04:45 AM
R. McCarty
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Re: Does this make sense?

Sorry about that - Pushing the Reset button causes an abrupt restart
which does restart the PC the same as a "Cold Start"

This doesn't allow XP to do a graceful shutdown/restart. It can leave
the disk in an inconsistent state as contents may not be written to the
disk. So if I understand what you're asking, No a Soft Reset press is
not the same as Control-Alt-Delete.

"JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB89F1FF-B5A3-4269-B6F3-B975364BD56C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks I have read it but still it does not response my question.
>
> "R. McCarty" wrote:
>
>> See the following, scroll to the Windows NT section:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Alt-Delete
>>
>> "JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:AFAE3D63-A80D-432C-88C6-291CAD2DE48A@microsoft.com...
>> >I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer
>> >has
>> > the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing
>> > CTRL-ALT-DELETE."
>> > Is
>> > that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up
>> > from
>> > CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset
>> > it
>> > does
>> > go through POST. Am I wrong?
>> >
>> > Any explanation please?

>>
>>
>>



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Old 01-12-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: Does this make sense?

Ctrl+alt+del in Windows XP does not automatically restart the computer as it
did before. Windows 9x Ctrl+Alt+Del pressed twice would restart the
computer. Windows XP does not have this feature. If you press Ctrl+Alt+Del
in XP your computer will give you the option to shut down or restart these
are the same as if you clicked start and then turn off computer no different.
It is a bad idea to hit the reset button in Windows unless the computer is
at a frozen state. The possibilities of corrupting some Windows file is too
great and happens very often. Good Luck,

Joe

Kemco ITT

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> Sorry about that - Pushing the Reset button causes an abrupt restart
> which does restart the PC the same as a "Cold Start"
>
> This doesn't allow XP to do a graceful shutdown/restart. It can leave
> the disk in an inconsistent state as contents may not be written to the
> disk. So if I understand what you're asking, No a Soft Reset press is
> not the same as Control-Alt-Delete.
>
> "JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:AB89F1FF-B5A3-4269-B6F3-B975364BD56C@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks I have read it but still it does not response my question.
> >
> > "R. McCarty" wrote:
> >
> >> See the following, scroll to the Windows NT section:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-Alt-Delete
> >>
> >> "JohnSmith1" <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AFAE3D63-A80D-432C-88C6-291CAD2DE48A@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer
> >> >has
> >> > the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing
> >> > CTRL-ALT-DELETE."
> >> > Is
> >> > that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up
> >> > from
> >> > CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset
> >> > it
> >> > does
> >> > go through POST. Am I wrong?
> >> >
> >> > Any explanation please?
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

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Old 01-12-2007, 08:30 AM
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Re: Does this make sense?

JohnSmith1 wrote:
> I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your
> computer has the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing
> CTRL-ALT-DELETE." Is that true in case windows xp too? As far as I
> know when you boot up from CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go
> through POST but pressing reset it does go through POST. Am I wrong?
>
> Any explanation please?


The reset button is the equivalent of stopping your car by deliberately
running into a tree.

It may be the ONLY way to stop your car if the brakes fail, but if the car
is working normally you should use the more graceful method (i.e., stepping
on the brake pedal).

Most modern computer models do not HAVE a reset button.


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Old 01-12-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Does this make sense?

JohnSmith1 <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer has
>the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE." Is
>that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up from
>CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset it does
>go through POST. Am I wrong?
>
>Any explanation please?


Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Delete (twice in XP) does a warm reboot of the
computer, bypassing the Power On Self Test as memory quantity,
connected hardware, etc are already known.

Pressing the hardware reset switch does a cold reboot, including the
full power on self test so that memory quantity is checked, disk
drives detected, etc.

Using the reset switch when the computer is "locked up" is far less
traumatic to the computer than is the alternative of manually powering
off with the on/off switch or by pulling the power plug. All that
the reset switch does is to reset the status registers in the CPU so
that it thinks it has just been powered on and therefore needs to go
through the complete startup process, but power is never actually
interrupted to the CPU or disk drives so there is no "thermal shock"
effect and no stopping/starting stress to the hard drive motor.

Years ago PC Magazine used to produce the "PC Magazine Utilities Disk"
(my last copy was on a 1.2 mb 5.25 inch floppy so that tells you how
long ago this was) and on that disk there were two utilities named
warmboot.com and coldboot.com which would do exactly what their names
indicated. Handy for complicated batchfiles where there were certain
circumstances that might require a controlled reboot.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: Does this make sense?



Ron Martell wrote:
>
> JohnSmith1 <JohnSmith1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your computer has
> >the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing CTRL-ALT-DELETE." Is
> >that true in case windows xp too? As far as I know when you boot up from
> >CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go through POST but pressing reset it does
> >go through POST. Am I wrong?
> >
> >Any explanation please?

>
> Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Delete (twice in XP) does a warm reboot of the
> computer, bypassing the Power On Self Test as memory quantity,
> connected hardware, etc are already known.
>



Not always. If the system is set to list user names on welcome screen
then pressing Ctrl+Alt+Delete (twice in XP) will bring out logon
screen. This happens when you are in welcome screen.

"Pushing the reset button on your computer" has the effect of COLD
rebooting the system i.e. you get all the POST messages etc. this is
ofeten called cold reboot in the industry.

hth
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Old 01-13-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: Does this make sense?

A vivid if somewhat alarming simile. For Windows XP, at least, the
damage caused by resetting the computer is fairly minimal. At worst, you
may lose some of the data in an open program. And if there IS more
damage, it can usually be fixed by start, cmd, chkdsk /f.

HeyBub wrote:
> JohnSmith1 wrote:
>> I have read somewhere that: "Pushing the reset button on your
>> computer has the same affect as restarting the computer and pressing
>> CTRL-ALT-DELETE." Is that true in case windows xp too? As far as I
>> know when you boot up from CTRL-ALT-DELETE option it does not go
>> through POST but pressing reset it does go through POST. Am I wrong?
>>
>> Any explanation please?

>
> The reset button is the equivalent of stopping your car by deliberately
> running into a tree.
>
> It may be the ONLY way to stop your car if the brakes fail, but if the car
> is working normally you should use the more graceful method (i.e., stepping
> on the brake pedal).
>
> Most modern computer models do not HAVE a reset button.
>
>

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