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Old 01-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Allen
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Zone Alarm issue

In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task
Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and
more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing
else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working
on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I
don't remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that
it was giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to
wonder--was it telling me something that I should have paid more
attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise
to re-install Zone Alarm?

An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
up many valuable items just by lurking here.

To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
firewall thread.
Allen
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:30 PM
sgopus
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RE: Zone Alarm issue

past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each version.
good program however, but it does slow things down considerably

"Allen" wrote:

> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task
> Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and
> more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing
> else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working
> on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I
> don't remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that
> it was giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to
> wonder--was it telling me something that I should have paid more
> attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise
> to re-install Zone Alarm?
>
> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
> up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>
> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
> firewall thread.
> Allen
>

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Old 01-09-2007, 02:30 AM
Cliff Wild
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

Allen wrote:
> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up
> Task Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more
> and more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do
> nothing else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I
> was working on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six
> months ago, so I don't remember any more details. I do remember
> definitely, though, that it was giving me no messages to explain its
> behavior. Now I have to wonder--was it telling me something that I
> should have paid more attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any
> opinions? Would it be wise to re-install Zone Alarm?
>
> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have
> picked up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>
> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden
> the scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post
> to the firewall thread.
> Allen


Zone Alarm Pro works great for many that have their systems running right
to begin with. You might try a ZA forum.

http://forums.zonelabs.com/zonelabs


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Old 01-09-2007, 02:45 AM
Bob Seymour
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Re: Zone Alarm issue


Can you recommend any other free firewalls that don't have this resource
hogging problem?

"sgopus" <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each
> version.
> good program however, but it does slow things down considerably
>



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Old 01-09-2007, 08:30 AM
Jonny
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

Prior to 6.0 version, that was the default caching control setting creating
the problem. Its an optional setting in those versions of ZA.
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"Allen" <allen@nothere.net> wrote in message
news:45a2f038$0$8969$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got slower
> and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task Manager
> and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and more memory
> (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing else. I
> terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working on, then
> uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I don't
> remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that it was
> giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to wonder--was
> it telling me something that I should have paid more attention to--perhaps
> a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise to re-install Zone
> Alarm?
>
> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
> up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>
> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
> firewall thread.
> Allen



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Old 01-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Wesley Vogel
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

I am still using ZoneAlarm version 3.7.211.

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In news:73BC217D-BCC1-4501-9586-1509A1783FF0@microsoft.com,
sgopus <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each
> version. good program however, but it does slow things down considerably
>
> "Allen" wrote:
>
>> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
>> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task
>> Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and
>> more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing
>> else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working
>> on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I
>> don't remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that
>> it was giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to
>> wonder--was it telling me something that I should have paid more
>> attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise
>> to re-install Zone Alarm?
>>
>> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
>> up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>>
>> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
>> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
>> firewall thread.
>> Allen

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Old 01-09-2007, 01:30 PM
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

"Allen" wrote

> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got slower
> and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task Manager
> and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and more memory
> (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing else. I
> terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working on, then
> uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I don't
> remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that it was
> giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to wonder--was
> it telling me something that I should have paid more attention to--perhaps
> a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise to re-install Zone
> Alarm?
>
> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
> up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>
> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
> firewall thread.


I can't speak for other newsgroups. Like I said sometimes it's appropriate,
but in general it's not. In your case, your issue is totally different from
the OPs in whose thread your replied. Posting a new question in someone
else's thread is referred to as hijacking. It interferes with both you and
the OP getting help.

It's impossible to troubleshoot your issue six month later. Did you install
another 3rd party firewall? Or started the XP firewall? You should use a
3rd party firewall because XP's doesn't monitor outbound traffic.

Earlier versions of ZA had some problems like this. I'm assuming you did a
thorough check for malware.

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Old 01-09-2007, 01:30 PM
Rock
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

"Bob Seymour" wrote

> Can you recommend any other free firewalls that don't have this resource
> hogging problem?
>
> "sgopus" wrote


>> past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each
>> version.
>> good program however, but it does slow things down considerably


I never liked Zone Alarm, though it's been a long time since I have tried
it. From Zone Alarm I moved to Sygate personal firewall which had free and
paid versions. Unfortunately they were later gobbled up by Symantec. There
is Sunbelt Software's Kerio Personal firewall. They have a free version for
a 30 day trial, and the cost is low for the paid version. That's the one I
switched to when Sygate was no more. I like it and have never had any
issues or problems with it. Also there is the Comodo personal firewall
which has a free version. I am trying that on another installation, however
I don't boot into that one very often. So far is seems ok.

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Old 01-09-2007, 01:30 PM
Rock
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

"Wesley Vogel" wrote

>I am still using ZoneAlarm version 3.7.211.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> sgopus hunted and pecked:


>> past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each
>> version. good program however, but it does slow things down considerably
>>
>> "Allen" wrote:
>>
>>> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
>>> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task
>>> Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and
>>> more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing
>>> else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working
>>> on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I
>>> don't remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that
>>> it was giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to
>>> wonder--was it telling me something that I should have paid more
>>> attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any opinions? Would it be wise
>>> to re-install Zone Alarm?
>>>
>>> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have picked
>>> up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>>>
>>> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
>>> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
>>> firewall thread.
>>> Allen


Geez Wes, you are waayyy behind the times.

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Old 01-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Wesley Vogel
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

I installed version 4 or whatever and I did NOT like it. So I uninstalled
it and reinstalled 3.7.211. I had saved zaSetup_37_211.exe. I still have
it.

I see that I have zlsSetup_55_062_011.exe also. I might as well delete that
one.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:u8XPdTDNHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl,
Rock <rock@nospam.net> hunted and pecked:
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote
>
>> I am still using ZoneAlarm version 3.7.211.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> sgopus hunted and pecked:

>
>>> past version 5, ZA is a resource hog, and getting larger with each
>>> version. good program however, but it does slow things down considerably
>>>
>>> "Allen" wrote:
>>>
>>>> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
>>>> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up
>>>> Task Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more
>>>> and more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do
>>>> nothing else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I
>>>> was working on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six
>>>> months ago, so I don't remember any more details. I do remember
>>>> definitely, though, that it was giving me no messages to explain its
>>>> behavior. Now I have to wonder--was it telling me something that I
>>>> should have paid more attention to--perhaps a firewall attack? Any
>>>> opinions? Would it be wise to re-install Zone Alarm?
>>>>
>>>> An aside--I wish that I had known about this ng back then; I have
>>>> picked up many valuable items just by lurking here.
>>>>
>>>> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
>>>> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to
>>>> the firewall thread.
>>>> Allen

>
> Geez Wes, you are waayyy behind the times.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]


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Old 01-09-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

"Wesley Vogel" wrote

>I installed version 4 or whatever and I did NOT like it. So I uninstalled
> it and reinstalled 3.7.211. I had saved zaSetup_37_211.exe. I still have
> it.
>
> I see that I have zlsSetup_55_062_011.exe also. I might as well delete
> that
> one.


I never liked Zone Alarm in any of the versions.

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Old 01-09-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

Bob Seymour wrote:

> Can you recommend any other free firewalls that don't have this resource
> hogging problem?


dd-wrt version 23 service pack 2 on a LinkSys WRT54GL works great.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/

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Old 01-09-2007, 06:15 PM
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Cliff Wild wrote:

> Zone Alarm Pro works great for many that have their systems running right
> to begin with.


With what source code can you back that up with? :o)

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Allen wrote:

> In regard to Zone Alarm: a few months ago, my XP Home machine got
> slower and slower over a period of a very few minutes. I brought up Task
> Manager and found that Zone Alarm (free version) was taking more and
> more memory (of my installed 1.5 Gb) until the machine could do nothing
> else. I terminated it so that I could finish the job that I was working
> on, then uninstalled it. Sorry, but this was about six months ago, so I
> don't remember any more details. I do remember definitely, though, that
> it was giving me no messages to explain its behavior. Now I have to
> wonder--was it telling me something that I should have paid more
> attention to--perhaps a firewall attack?


Possibly, though personal firewalls aren't firewalls at all, but rather
snake oil. If you want a firewall, do it right and buy yourself a router
and deny incoming connections (the default on most consumer level routers).

Beware geeks bearing gifts: ZoneAlarm is closed-source software claiming to
improve security, yet ZA is opposed to the idea of open, public review of
the source code. Does ZA actually do what it claims to do? Only the
authors know for sure, and they're not providing any evidence in support.

> Any opinions? Would it be wise to re-install Zone Alarm?


Reinstalling ZoneAlarm or any other personal firewall software is
inadvisable.

http://samspade.org/d/firewalls.html

> To Rock: in some ngs it is considered best good practice to broaden the
> scope of existing threads; that's why I asked about in in my post to the
> firewall thread.


I don't have context to go with here, but unless your issue is identical to
the one being discussed in the thread, it's best to start a new thread
instead of piggybacking.

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Old 01-10-2007, 09:30 AM
Wesley Vogel
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Re: Zone Alarm issue

What firewall do you use?

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Rock <rock@nospam.net> hunted and pecked:
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote
>
>> I installed version 4 or whatever and I did NOT like it. So I
>> uninstalled it and reinstalled 3.7.211. I had saved zaSetup_37_211.exe.
>> I still have it.
>>
>> I see that I have zlsSetup_55_062_011.exe also. I might as well delete
>> that
>> one.

>
> I never liked Zone Alarm in any of the versions.
>
> --
> Rock [MVP - User/Shell]

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