Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question here:
Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control
Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.

Thanks for you help.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:
> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/Sho...D=847&SiteID=1
>
> Andrew wrote:
> > Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to
> > match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside
> > the
> > Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results
> > pane
> >> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop Search
> > Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search
> > History
> > (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and
> > Search Web (unchecked).
> >
> > I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer froze
> > and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was unchecked
> > (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck
> > it,
> > nothing happens.
> >
> > If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane
> > as
> > above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All Locations
> > >
> > Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder
> > called
> > My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?
> >
> > I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed up
> > beyond repair???
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows
> >> Search's
> >> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/w...tions.mspx#E4D
> >> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)
> >>
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed
> >>> (according
> >>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this
> >>> problem?
> >>>
> >>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says
> >>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All
> >>> Programs; then click Windows Search.
> >>>
> >>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the
> >>> three
> >>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as
> >>> long
> >>> as
> >>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing
> >>> processes.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again.
> >>>
> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?
> >>>>
> >>>> Andrew wrote:
> >>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it
> >>>>> seems
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly
> >>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the length
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> this posting):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk
> >>>>> Letter
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this disk
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in
> >>>>> left
> >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action menu,
> >>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune
> >>>>> Performance
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used >
> >>>>> About
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service > Yes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in
> >>>>> left
> >>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this is
> >>>>> my
> >>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click
> >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to the
> >>>>> right
> >>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and
> >>>>> Settings\*\Application
> >>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these were
> >>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> including F:\.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double click
> >>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled > Apply
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> OK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process
> >>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300 I/O
> >>>>> operations and then stops.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,
> >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task
> >>>>> Manager
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a
> >>>>> few
> >>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is
> >>>>> active.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few
> >>>>> seconds
> >>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task
> >>>>> Manager,
> >>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these
> >>>>> three
> >>>>> processes from Task Manager.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you in advance.
>
>

In short: No.

Andrew wrote:
> Thanks, PA Bear. I will repost as you suggested. But one last question
> here:
> Do you see any problem with simply removing Windows Search 4.0 via Control
> Panel, Add/Remove? I don't really need the Indexing Service.
>
> Thanks for you help.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Try posting in this forum instead for best assistance:
>> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/Sho...D=847&SiteID=1
>>
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> Thanks again, PA Bear. The instructions in the reference do not seem to
>>> match what actually happens on my computer. I get as far as click inside
>>> the
>>> Deskbar Search Box > click Windows icon in lower left corner of Results
>>> pane
>>>> select Deskbar Options. At this point I do not see Windows Desktop
>>>> Search
>>> Options. All I see is Enable Search as I type (checked), Save Search
>>> History
>>> (checked), Display GO button (unchecked), Search Desktop (checked) and
>>> Search Web (unchecked).
>>>
>>> I clicked Save Search History just to try something and the computer
>>> froze
>>> and had to reboot. After the reboot, the Save Search History was
>>> unchecked
>>> (nothing else has changed). If I click Search Desktop to try to uncheck
>>> it,
>>> nothing happens.
>>>
>>> If I click search Desktop (next to the Windows icon) in the Results pane
>>> as
>>> above, I get the Windows Search Results window. If I click All
>>> Locations
>>> >
>>> Remove Location, I get a Browse for Folder window that shows a folder
>>> called
>>> My Search Locations, which seems to be empty. Do I remove this folder?
>>>
>>> I am apparently missing something or my whole search function is messed
>>> up
>>> beyond repair???
>>>
>>>
>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> You'll need to disable the indexing of OE data from within Windows
>>>> Search's
>>>> options, Andrew. See Indexing section of
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/w...tions.mspx#E4D
>>>> (applies to Windows Search 4.0)
>>>>
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> Thanks, PA Bear. I think I do have Windows Search 4.0 installed
>>>>> (according
>>>>> to Add/Remove in Control Panel). Should I remove it to solve this
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> In the System Tray, I have "Search Desktop". When I click it, it says
>>>>> Windows Search is not running; to start click Start Menu; point to All
>>>>> Programs; then click Windows Search.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot to mention in my previous post that when I manually end the
>>>>> three
>>>>> search processes from Task Manager, they will restart a few times as
>>>>> long
>>>>> as
>>>>> OE is running. Also, Internet Explorer seems to start the indexing
>>>>> processes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Windows (Desktop) Search installed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> I cannot fully disable the Indexing Service in Windows XP SP3 – it
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> start when Outlook Express is started. Any help would be greatly
>>>>>>> appreciated. I have tried the following so far (sorry about the
>>>>>>> length
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> this posting):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. For each of my hard disks (C: and F:): My Computer > Hard Disk
>>>>>>> Letter
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Properties > Uncheck box for Allow Indexing Service to index this
>>>>>>> disk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in
>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > on Action
>>>>>>> menu,
>>>>>>> clicked Stop > on Action menu, point to All Tasks > click Tune
>>>>>>> Performance
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Customize > set Indexing Performance to Lazy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2a. Instead of “Customize” in 2. above, I also tried: Never Used >
>>>>>>> About
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> disable the service – Do you really want to disable the service >
>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > in
>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>> panel, Services and Applications > Indexing Service > System (this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> catalog name??) > in the right panel, under Directory, double click
>>>>>>> C:\Documents and Settings > Include in index? > No > OK > back to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>> panel, double click C:\ > Include in index? > No > OK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: There was also an entry for C:\Documents and
>>>>>>> Settings\*\Application
>>>>>>> Data\* and C:\Documents and Settings\*\Local Settings\* but these
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> already set not to be included in the catalog. Also added entry for
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> including F:\.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Start > Run > type services.msc > OK > in right panel, double
>>>>>>> click
>>>>>>> Indexing Service > set Startup Type from Manual to Disabled >
>>>>>>> Apply
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> OK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Rebooted the computer after each of the above steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, when I start Windows, and open Task Manager, I see the process
>>>>>>> searchindexer.exe, which runs for about one second, does about 300
>>>>>>> I/O
>>>>>>> operations and then stops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, when I start Outlook Express V6.0, two other processes,
>>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe, appear in Task
>>>>>>> Manager
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> take up about 40% CPU time and do about 300,000 I/O operations in a
>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>> seconds before stopping and then restarting later as long as OE is
>>>>>>> active.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I exit from OE, these three processes also stop, and in a few
>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>> searchfilterhost.exe and searchprotocolhost.exe disappear from Task
>>>>>>> Manager,
>>>>>>> but searchindexer.exe stays.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only way I can fully stop the Indexing Service is to end these
>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>> processes from Task Manager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you in advance.