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| Boot problem after hardware upgrade I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as secondary master and slave. After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, boot normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if I could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black screen with the safe mode etc option. ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows works. I don't believe them. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade hmm, sounds like maybe you should switch back to the old motherboard and see if this fixes you up. if so, then send that motha' back to them for credit or exchange. "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Hi Dave, I don't believe ASUS either. I know you said you changed the boot sequence to see the CD-ROM before the HD, but sometimes there's a "press any key to boot from CD" window, that doesn't appear very long. Make sure all is well with the CD-ROM drive, because if the CD-ROM is listed to boot before the HD, and you see the screen you described, the CD-ROM is *out* of the boot process for some reason. -- Curt BD-MVBT http://dundats.mvps.org/ http://www.aumha.org/ "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| RE: Boot problem after hardware upgrade With asus were you getting tech support from the janitor or maybe mntce...... With a new board,one must reinstall xp,the old xp OS was configured to the old board (chipset,processor,etc).Simply boot to the BIOS,set cdrom with xp cd installed as 1st boot priority,set 2nd as hd.Once you save & exit,you should get a "boot to cd" option.Once at xp cd boot menu,select install xp,new copy, delete the partition,create one,then xp formats & installs auto..... "Dave" wrote: > I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade hmm, sounds like maybe you should switch back to the old motherboard and see if this fixes you up. if so, then send that motha' back to them for credit or exchange. "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Hi Dave, I don't believe ASUS either. I know you said you changed the boot sequence to see the CD-ROM before the HD, but sometimes there's a "press any key to boot from CD" window, that doesn't appear very long. Make sure all is well with the CD-ROM drive, because if the CD-ROM is listed to boot before the HD, and you see the screen you described, the CD-ROM is *out* of the boot process for some reason. -- Curt BD-MVBT http://dundats.mvps.org/ http://www.aumha.org/ "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade "Dave" wrote >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? Are you saying you took a hard drive with XP installed on a different hardware configuration, put it in this new set up and tried to boot? If that's the case you need to do at the minimum a repair install. Sometimes that won't work and it needs a clean install. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade "Dave" wrote >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? Are you saying you took a hard drive with XP installed on a different hardware configuration, put it in this new set up and tried to boot? If that's the case you need to do at the minimum a repair install. Sometimes that won't work and it needs a clean install. http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade I wonder whether you succeeded in changing the boot order? It sounds like the PC is skipping the CD and going to the hard drive. After making change sin the BIUOS, did you "save and exit" or just "exit? What you are describing can also happen if the CD is not bootable, for example if it not a real XP CD. Some major brand PCs come with multiple CDs, not all of which are bootable, and sometimes none of which contain XP. As a test for might try booting some other PC with the CD to see if it is indeed bootable. Or, download and burn a copy of a free known-bootable LINUX CD. I like KNOPPIX, but that is a large download (minimum 700 Meg for CD, more for DVD version). Anyway, given the massive hardware changes, you must do a repair installation. For that you need a retail copy of the XP CD, not an OEM copy. And, of course, the PC must be set to boot from CD. "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade I wonder whether you succeeded in changing the boot order? It sounds like the PC is skipping the CD and going to the hard drive. After making change sin the BIUOS, did you "save and exit" or just "exit? What you are describing can also happen if the CD is not bootable, for example if it not a real XP CD. Some major brand PCs come with multiple CDs, not all of which are bootable, and sometimes none of which contain XP. As a test for might try booting some other PC with the CD to see if it is indeed bootable. Or, download and burn a copy of a free known-bootable LINUX CD. I like KNOPPIX, but that is a large download (minimum 700 Meg for CD, more for DVD version). Anyway, given the massive hardware changes, you must do a repair installation. For that you need a retail copy of the XP CD, not an OEM copy. And, of course, the PC must be set to boot from CD. "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, > boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if > I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows > works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Bob, why is a retail copy of XP needed for a repair install? Generic OEM's will do a repair install too. "Bob Harris" <rharris270[SPAM]********.com> wrote in message news:%23sDl1ZKIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I wonder whether you succeeded in changing the boot order? It sounds like >the PC is skipping the CD and going to the hard drive. After making change >sin the BIUOS, did you "save and exit" or just "exit? > > What you are describing can also happen if the CD is not bootable, for > example if it not a real XP CD. Some major brand PCs come with multiple > CDs, not all of which are bootable, and sometimes none of which contain > XP. > > As a test for might try booting some other PC with the CD to see if it is > indeed bootable. > > Or, download and burn a copy of a free known-bootable LINUX CD. I like > KNOPPIX, but that is a large download (minimum 700 Meg for CD, more for > DVD version). > > Anyway, given the massive hardware changes, you must do a repair > installation. For that you need a retail copy of the XP CD, not an OEM > copy. And, of course, the PC must be set to boot from CD. > > "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >>I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS >> motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After >> installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as >> secondary master and slave. >> >> After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly >> because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, >> boot >> normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. >> >> I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see >> if I >> could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black >> screen with the safe mode etc option. >> >> ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a >> second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, >> can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows >> works. >> I don't believe them. >> >> Does anybody have any suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave > > |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Bob, why is a retail copy of XP needed for a repair install? Generic OEM's will do a repair install too. "Bob Harris" <rharris270[SPAM]********.com> wrote in message news:%23sDl1ZKIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I wonder whether you succeeded in changing the boot order? It sounds like >the PC is skipping the CD and going to the hard drive. After making change >sin the BIUOS, did you "save and exit" or just "exit? > > What you are describing can also happen if the CD is not bootable, for > example if it not a real XP CD. Some major brand PCs come with multiple > CDs, not all of which are bootable, and sometimes none of which contain > XP. > > As a test for might try booting some other PC with the CD to see if it is > indeed bootable. > > Or, download and burn a copy of a free known-bootable LINUX CD. I like > KNOPPIX, but that is a large download (minimum 700 Meg for CD, more for > DVD version). > > Anyway, given the massive hardware changes, you must do a repair > installation. For that you need a retail copy of the XP CD, not an OEM > copy. And, of course, the PC must be set to boot from CD. > > "Dave" <Dave@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E66690C8-D341-480F-B874-343EBABE7567@microsoft.com... >>I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS >> motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After >> installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as >> secondary master and slave. >> >> After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly >> because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, >> boot >> normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. >> >> I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see >> if I >> could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black >> screen with the safe mode etc option. >> >> ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a >> second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, >> can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows >> works. >> I don't believe them. >> >> Does anybody have any suggestions? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave > > |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Dave wrote: > I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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| Re: Boot problem after hardware upgrade Dave wrote: > I had an AMD processor/motherboard, upgraded to a P4 with an ASUS > motherboard, and 756MB ram. Same hdd, dvd-drives,video card. After > installing the new mobo, bios recognizes hdd as primary master, dvds as > secondary master and slave. > > After booting, I get the screen saying Windows failed to boot, possibly > because of a hardware change, and gives me the option to safe boot, etc, boot > normally. I rebooted and came right back to the same screen. > > I then tried setting the boot sequence as floppy, cdrom then hdd to see if I > could boot to the CD and reinstall XP. Same result as before- the black > screen with the safe mode etc option. > > ASUS tech support was less than helpful. They even suggested buying a > second XP cd to see if it would work! Right now I can't boot to floppy, > can't boot to CD, can't boot to hdd. ASUS said it was the way Windows works. > I don't believe them. > > Does anybody have any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Dave Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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