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Old 07-18-2008, 10:00 PM
deeps
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Changing IP address

Hi!

I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect
these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it gives
me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"

As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.

Please help me out..
Thanks in advance..
Deeps
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Old 07-18-2008, 11:10 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Changing IP address


"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...
> Hi!
>
> I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect
> these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it
> gives
> me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"
>
> As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.
>
> Please help me out..
> Thanks in advance..
> Deeps


Correct, it does not need to restart.


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Old 07-19-2008, 03:30 AM
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Re: Changing IP address

Hi!

But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why so?

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...
> > Hi!
> >
> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect
> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it
> > gives
> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"
> >
> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.
> >
> > Please help me out..
> > Thanks in advance..
> > Deeps

>
> Correct, it does not need to restart.
>
>
>

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Old 07-19-2008, 04:40 AM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Changing IP address

Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled
network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic
approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking
does not work.


"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...
> Hi!
>
> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why
> so?
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect
>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it
>> > gives
>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"
>> >
>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.
>> >
>> > Please help me out..
>> > Thanks in advance..
>> > Deeps

>>
>> Correct, it does not need to restart.
>>
>>
>>



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Old 07-19-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Changing IP address

I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
piggyback on this one.

I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
must also be trying to access via wireless too.

Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
figure it out?

TIA
```````````````

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:21:30 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)"
<I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled
>network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic
>approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking
>does not work.
>
>
>"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...
>> Hi!
>>
>> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why
>> so?
>>
>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...
>>> > Hi!
>>> >
>>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to connect
>>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop it
>>> > gives
>>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"
>>> >
>>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.
>>> >
>>> > Please help me out..
>>> > Thanks in advance..
>>> > Deeps
>>>
>>> Correct, it does not need to restart.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>




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Old 07-19-2008, 05:40 PM
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Re: Changing IP address

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:56:41 -0700, sf wrote:

>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
>piggyback on this one.
>
>I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
>browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
>mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
>finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
>idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
>although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
>must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>
>Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
>figure it out?
>
>TIA
>```````````````

You needed to start your own thread and not hijack this one.

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Old 07-19-2008, 07:00 PM
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Re: Changing IP address

"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...
>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
> piggyback on this one.


No, it isn't.


> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
> must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>
> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
> figure it out?


You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this
purpose.

Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
addresses from the router.

From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired
and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
router.

If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different
router that has the same SSID.

HTH
-pk


>
> TIA
> ```````````````
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:21:30 +0200, "Pegasus \(MVP\)"
> <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>
>>Windows has a habit of doing this when a previously disabled
>>network adapter becomes enabled. I recommend the pragmatic
>>approach: Only reboot under these circumstances if networking
>>does not work.
>>
>>
>>"deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:EDE80DE2-3CAC-412D-845F-CEC1CC40206E@microsoft.com...
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> But when 'm trying changing static ip it ask me for restarting pc...why
>>> so?
>>>
>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "deeps" <deeps@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B2ED0C17-8317-4470-895C-71C1C121D63C@microsoft.com...
>>>> > Hi!
>>>> >
>>>> > I've got pc and laptop with WinXP pro. I'm trying connecting to
>>>> > connect
>>>> > these with cross cable. while assigning static ip address on laptop
>>>> > it
>>>> > gives
>>>> > me message as "System needs to restart to changes to take effect"
>>>> >
>>>> > As far as i know XP doesn't need restart.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please help me out..
>>>> > Thanks in advance..
>>>> > Deeps
>>>>
>>>> Correct, it does not need to restart.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>

>
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


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Old 07-20-2008, 12:50 AM
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Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>
wrote:

>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...
>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
>> piggyback on this one.

>
>No, it isn't.
>
>
>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>>
>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
>> figure it out?

>
>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this
>purpose.
>
>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
>addresses from the router.
>
>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired
>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
>router.
>
>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different
>router that has the same SSID.
>
>HTH
>-pk
>


No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can
you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me
an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what
you expected me to do?

TIA


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Mae West
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:20 AM
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Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:40:30 -0700, sf wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>
>wrote:
>
>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...
>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
>>> piggyback on this one.

>>
>>No, it isn't.
>>
>>
>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>>>
>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
>>> figure it out?

>>
>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this
>>purpose.
>>
>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
>>addresses from the router.
>>
>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired
>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
>>router.
>>
>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different
>>router that has the same SSID.
>>
>>HTH
>>-pk
>>

>
>No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can
>you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me
>an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what
>you expected me to do?
>
>TIA



All of a sudden, everything is ok again. I have no idea what
happened, but I won't question it. If it reverts I'll come back, but
I'm hoping all is well for now.

Thanks for responding.

:)


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Mae West
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:20 AM
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Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

On Jul 20, 12:40*pm, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"sf" wrote in messagenews:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax .com...
> >>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
> >> piggyback on this one.

>
> >No, it isn't.

>
> >> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. *Both
> >> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. *Thunderbird receives
> >> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). *I
> >> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. *I have no
> >> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. *I suspect that
> >> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
> >> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>
> >> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
> >> figure it out?

>
> >You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
> >would prevent that from happening. * *Many laptops have a switch forthis
> >purpose.

>
> >Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
> >addresses from the router.

>
> >From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired
> >and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
> >router.

>
> >If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
> >default. * It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different
> >router that has the same SSID.

>
> >HTH
> >-pk

>
> No. *That didn't help. *I didn't understand a single direction. *Can
> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? *"ipconfig/all" gave me
> an error message when I entered it into "start > run". *Was that what
> you expected me to do?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


Did you type a space between "ipconfig" and "/all"? It is required
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:21 AM
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Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

On Jul 20, 12:40*pm, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"sf" wrote in messagenews:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax .com...
> >>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
> >> piggyback on this one.

>
> >No, it isn't.

>
> >> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. *Both
> >> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. *Thunderbird receives
> >> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). *I
> >> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. *I have no
> >> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. *I suspect that
> >> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
> >> must also be trying to access via wireless too.

>
> >> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
> >> figure it out?

>
> >You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
> >would prevent that from happening. * *Many laptops have a switch forthis
> >purpose.

>
> >Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
> >addresses from the router.

>
> >From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that wired
> >and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
> >router.

>
> >If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
> >default. * It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a different
> >router that has the same SSID.

>
> >HTH
> >-pk

>
> No. *That didn't help. *I didn't understand a single direction. *Can
> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? *"ipconfig/all" gave me
> an error message when I entered it into "start > run". *Was that what
> you expected me to do?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


You should open a command prompt by first typing (and entering) cmd in
"start" > "run" , and then type ipconfig /all on the command line,
then tap "enter"
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

"sf" wrote in message news:mjp584tarjlpqa4eef0047tnhj23mnk34m@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...
>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
>>> piggyback on this one.

>>
>>No, it isn't.
>>
>>
>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>>>
>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
>>> figure it out?

>>
>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this
>>purpose.
>>
>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
>>addresses from the router.
>>
>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that
>>wired
>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
>>router.
>>
>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from the
>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a
>>different
>>router that has the same SSID.
>>
>>HTH
>>-pk
>>

>
> No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can
> you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me
> an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what
> you expected me to do?


No, go to Start, run, type CMD, and press enter. THen type "ipconfig
/all", and note that there is a space before the /.

You will get an error message if you leave the space out, and if you don't
do it from the command prompt, which is also (mistakenly) referred to as a
"DOS window", the command will execute and vanish before you can read it.

The command "ipconfig /release" will reset all the IP address to 0.0.0.0 .
You then issue the command "ipconfig /renew" and this will force the network
cards to get new addresses from the router, if it can.

The SSID is the name you gave your wireless system at the time that you set
up your router. When you scan for networks with the wireless card, this is
what you see.

If you didn't do this, your router is using the default SSID and if you have
any neighbors with computers there's a good chance that they have similar
hardware and the same SSID, and Windows can easily become confused as to
which one to attach to. Check your router's documentation for changing
the SSID, change it, and be sure your system is connecting to the right
router. This is best done with a wired connection.

Now, the fact that you can receive but can't send mail often indicates that
you are connecting to the wrong network.

For example, let's say you subscribe to a DSL service and set up your mail
with the information from your provider for their POP/SMTP mail servers.
You know the information is right, and you can receive mail but not send it.

Major ISP's SMTP servers use port 25, you can't change this, and for
security reasons (spamming) ISPs do not allow access on port 25 if you are
not connected to their network. If you aren't on their network, your mail
will not send, even if all the rest of the configuration is perfect.

So if your mail does not send and you are sure the settings are correct,
this is a big clue that you're on the wrong network.

What often happens is that your PC has decided to connect to a neighbor's
wireless router - because it has the same SSID, or you incorrectly pointed
the wireless to their router - and they have, say, a cable internet
subscription, with a different ISP. You're on a different network, and
your ISP will not allow to you access their outgoing mail server from this
other, or ANY other, network.

If you travel with a laptop, you're almost certainly going to run into this
when you connect at different locations. What you have to do is find
another outgoing server that isn't your ISP's and does not use Port 25, and
set up your mail client to use that as the outgoing server. I often use
gmail for this purpose. Then, you can send and receive from pretty much
anywhere in the world there is network access.

HTH
-pk

>
> TIA
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


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Old 07-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Ip problem: was Re: Changing IP address

"sf" wrote in message news:abv584tlluntrf6mbq2psvpo2v3cr1n9b8@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:40:30 -0700, sf wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:34:37 -0400, "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>"sf" wrote in message news:trr484pj5nkiani8731n97uj9m3ev0nehu@4ax.com...
>>>>I came here to begin a new thread, but maybe it's appropriate to
>>>> piggyback on this one.
>>>
>>>No, it isn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm also having trouble connecting to the internet on my laptop. Both
>>>> browsers say "done", but I get no graphics. Thunderbird receives
>>>> mail, but doesn't send (it has the same SMPT as my desktop). I
>>>> finally got a brief popup saying there was an IP conflict. I have no
>>>> idea how to figure that out or how to rectify it. I suspect that
>>>> although I'm directly connected to the net via a router, my computer
>>>> must also be trying to access via wireless too.
>>>>
>>>> Can you help me with this or should I take it to a shop and have them
>>>> figure it out?
>>>
>>>You can disable the wireless adapter if you're connecting by wire, which
>>>would prevent that from happening. Many laptops have a switch for this
>>>purpose.
>>>
>>>Releasing and renewing the IP address will force the NICs to get new IP
>>>addresses from the router.
>>>
>>>From a command prompt issue an "ipconfig /all" command and ensure that
>>>wired
>>>and wireless adapters, if both enabled, get IP addresses from the same
>>>router.
>>>
>>>If your router has wireless, be sure you've changed the SSID away from
>>>the
>>>default. It's very possible for Windows to decide to attach to a
>>>different
>>>router that has the same SSID.
>>>
>>>HTH
>>>-pk
>>>

>>
>>No. That didn't help. I didn't understand a single direction. Can
>>you simplify what you said to help an "idiot"? "ipconfig/all" gave me
>>an error message when I entered it into "start > run". Was that what
>>you expected me to do?
>>
>>TIA

>
>
> All of a sudden, everything is ok again. I have no idea what
> happened, but I won't question it. If it reverts I'll come back, but
> I'm hoping all is well for now.
>
> Thanks for responding.


What probably happened is that you are now connecting to the correct router.
It sounds like you were connecting to someone else's. See my other reply
for details.

HTH
-pk


>
> :)
>
>
> --
> I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the
> number of carats in a diamond.
>
> Mae West


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