Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe, I'd
like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to restore
using anything that comes with Vista?

"Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D9785E3-87D3-4960-9CB6-F2BD30F7FD9F@microsoft.com...
> Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
> files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe,
> I'd
> like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
> something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to
> restore
> using anything that comes with Vista?

I don't know but if it was my own important data then I would
not rely on the advice given by a stranger. I would test it for
myself - it won't take more than a few minutes!

Shotgun wrote:
> Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
> files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe, I'd
> like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
> something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to restore
> using anything that comes with Vista?

Or rather than rely on the built in software in two different OS's to do
the job, find a 3rd party program that will do it. One that loads on
both OS's.

And if you don't have a good backup software now, then it might be time
to think about one. Acronis True Image can clone a HD, image a HD, or
backup files. And is XP/Vista compat.

You can get a 30 day trial and NewEgg has it on sale now and then under
$40.00

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1D9785E3-87D3-4960-9CB6-F2BD30F7FD9F@microsoft.com...
> > Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
> > files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe,
> > I'd
> > like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
> > something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to
> > restore
> > using anything that comes with Vista?
>
> I don't know but if it was my own important data then I would
> not rely on the advice given by a stranger. I would test it for
> myself - it won't take more than a few minutes!
>
> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a bit in real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>. Thanks for the reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll try it. I really think I have transferred it all, but just can't bring myself to "pull the trigger" by formating the harddrive on the old one in preparation to selling it. While I have the ear of a soothsayer (you), am I correct that once formatted, the old drive will unreadable as far as my information is concerned and it will be safe to sell? In your role as MVP have you considered changing your name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as you are a big help. <g>. Thanks.

>

TO BIG AL: Ultimately, you have the best answer, but I was trying to avoid
spending any more money for something I may not regularly use since my new
laptop came with two harddrives installed and I can just copy my data files
to the 2nd harddrive as a normal routine. Thanks for your reply.

"Big Al" wrote:

> Shotgun wrote:
> > Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
> > files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe, I'd
> > like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
> > something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to restore
> > using anything that comes with Vista?
>
> Or rather than rely on the built in software in two different OS's to do
> the job, find a 3rd party program that will do it. One that loads on
> both OS's.
>
> And if you don't have a good backup software now, then it might be time
> to think about one. Acronis True Image can clone a HD, image a HD, or
> backup files. And is XP/Vista compat.
>
> You can get a 30 day trial and NewEgg has it on sale now and then under
> $40.00
>

"Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EACB4BC1-40B9-4AC4-9FA9-8DF72015F9D8@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1D9785E3-87D3-4960-9CB6-F2BD30F7FD9F@microsoft.com...
>> > Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all
>> > the
>> > files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe,
>> > I'd
>> > like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
>> > something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to
>> > restore
>> > using anything that comes with Vista?
>>
>> I don't know but if it was my own important data then I would
>> not rely on the advice given by a stranger. I would test it for
>> myself - it won't take more than a few minutes!
>>
>> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
>> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a bit in
>> real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>. Thanks for the
>> reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll try it. I really
>> think I have transferred it all, but just can't bring myself to "pull the
>> trigger" by formating the harddrive on the old one in preparation to
>> selling it. While I have the ear of a soothsayer (you), am I correct
>> that once formatted, the old drive will unreadable as far as my
>> information is concerned and it will be safe to sell? In your role as
>> MVP have you considered changing your name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as
>> you are a big help. <g>. Thanks.
>

Prometheus - wasn't he the guy who got his liver hacked out day
after day by vultures, as punishment for stealing the fire from the
gods?

About making your disk safe for disposal - this is another subject
altogether that warrants another post.

Shotgun wrote:
>>
>> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
>> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a
>> bit in real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>.
>> Thanks for the reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll
>> try it. I really think I have transferred it all, but just can't
>> bring myself to "pull the trigger" by formating the harddrive on the
>> old one in preparation to selling it. While I have the ear of a
>> soothsayer (you), am I correct that once formatted, the old drive
>> will unreadable as far as my information is concerned and it will be
>> safe to sell? In your role as MVP have you considered changing your
>> name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as you are a big help. <g>.
>> Thanks.

No. Formatting doesn't bother the data at all and it's (almost) trivial to
recover.

The date and time was 5/27/2008 6:55 AM, and on a whim, Big Al pounded
out on the keyboard:

> Shotgun wrote:
>> Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
>> files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe, I'd
>> like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
>> something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to restore
>> using anything that comes with Vista?
>
> Or rather than rely on the built in software in two different OS's to do
> the job, find a 3rd party program that will do it. One that loads on
> both OS's.
>
> And if you don't have a good backup software now, then it might be time
> to think about one. Acronis True Image can clone a HD, image a HD, or
> backup files. And is XP/Vista compat.
>
> You can get a 30 day trial and NewEgg has it on sale now and then under
> $40.00

It's only a 15 day trial now. But still plenty of time to do what is
needed for transferring from one computer to another.

--
Terry R.

***Reply Note***
Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

Shotgun wrote:
> TO BIG AL: Ultimately, you have the best answer, but I was trying to avoid
> spending any more money for something I may not regularly use since my new
> laptop came with two harddrives installed and I can just copy my data files
> to the 2nd harddrive as a normal routine. Thanks for your reply.
>
> "Big Al" wrote:
>
>> Shotgun wrote:
>>> Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all the
>>> files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe, I'd
>>> like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I missed
>>> something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to restore
>>> using anything that comes with Vista?
>> Or rather than rely on the built in software in two different OS's to do
>> the job, find a 3rd party program that will do it. One that loads on
>> both OS's.
>>
>> And if you don't have a good backup software now, then it might be time
>> to think about one. Acronis True Image can clone a HD, image a HD, or
>> backup files. And is XP/Vista compat.
>>
>> You can get a 30 day trial and NewEgg has it on sale now and then under
>> $40.00
>>
I like your copy idea and I do it too. But you know, I always seem to
forget some small file. Dang!!. Then and only then am I glad that I
make a complete image of my C: drive. I can go get that one little file.

Keep a eye, I bought my copy of Acronis when I found a sale for $4.95.
With shipping it was about $10. I could not pass it up. We
(meaning a few of my friends) thought we could use it as an upgrade to
the latest version but found out later they don't do that. But Version
9 works great. Still I keep an eye out for sales on places like nextag.

Hmmm. That's interesting. What about the old DOS command we used to use of
"format c: /u" for an Unconditional format? Would that work to to completely
erase it? I do have Norton Systemworks that will work on the old XP
operating system and it has a DOD Wipe feature. How about a format and then
a "wipe". That do it?

"HeyBub" wrote:

> Shotgun wrote:
> >>
> >> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
> >> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a
> >> bit in real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>.
> >> Thanks for the reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll
> >> try it. I really think I have transferred it all, but just can't
> >> bring myself to "pull the trigger" by formating the harddrive on the
> >> old one in preparation to selling it. While I have the ear of a
> >> soothsayer (you), am I correct that once formatted, the old drive
> >> will unreadable as far as my information is concerned and it will be
> >> safe to sell? In your role as MVP have you considered changing your
> >> name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as you are a big help. <g>.
> >> Thanks.
>
> No. Formatting doesn't bother the data at all and it's (almost) trivial to
> recover.
>
>
>

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> "Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EACB4BC1-40B9-4AC4-9FA9-8DF72015F9D8@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1D9785E3-87D3-4960-9CB6-F2BD30F7FD9F@microsoft.com...
>>>> Recently got a new computer with Vista. I think I've transferred all
>>>> the
>>>> files I want from the old computer to the new one, but just to be safe,
>>>> I'd like to save a copy of the data on the old computer in case I
>>>> missed
>>>> something important. If I back up using XP backup, will I be able to
>>>> restore using anything that comes with Vista?
>>>
>>> I don't know but if it was my own important data then I would
>>> not rely on the advice given by a stranger. I would test it for
>>> myself - it won't take more than a few minutes!
>>>
>>> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
>>> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a bit in
>>> real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>. Thanks for the
>>> reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll try it. I really
>>> think I have transferred it all, but just can't bring myself to "pull
>>> the
>>> trigger" by formating the harddrive on the old one in preparation to
>>> selling it. While I have the ear of a soothsayer (you), am I correct
>>> that once formatted, the old drive will unreadable as far as my
>>> information is concerned and it will be safe to sell? In your role as
>>> MVP have you considered changing your name from Pegasus to Prometheus,
>>> as
>>> you are a big help. <g>. Thanks.
>
> Prometheus - wasn't he the guy who got his liver hacked out day
> after day by vultures, as punishment for stealing the fire from the gods?

Yup. "Hacked out"? No, eaten out (would be more accurate).

http://dban.sourceforge.net/
Good enough for most people.
Louis

"Shotgun" <Shotgun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:088BADA1-AEF6-4079-8F2C-F7726D435E4B@microsoft.com...
> Hmmm. That's interesting. What about the old DOS command we used to use
of
> "format c: /u" for an Unconditional format? Would that work to to
completely
> erase it? I do have Norton Systemworks that will work on the old XP
> operating system and it has a DOD Wipe feature. How about a format and
then
> a "wipe". That do it?
>
> "HeyBub" wrote:
>
> > Shotgun wrote:
> > >>
> > >> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
> > >> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a
> > >> bit in real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>.
> > >> Thanks for the reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll
> > >> try it. I really think I have transferred it all, but just can't
> > >> bring myself to "pull the trigger" by formating the harddrive on the
> > >> old one in preparation to selling it. While I have the ear of a
> > >> soothsayer (you), am I correct that once formatted, the old drive
> > >> will unreadable as far as my information is concerned and it will be
> > >> safe to sell? In your role as MVP have you considered changing your
> > >> name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as you are a big help. <g>.
> > >> Thanks.
> >
> > No. Formatting doesn't bother the data at all and it's (almost) trivial
to
> > recover.
> >
> >
> >

Get a Knoppix disk and type the following at the Terminal window:
shred -vfz -n 100 /dev/hda (replace hda with your hard drive info)

it will take forever but will replace all the data on your pc with
zero's

or you can also download and run dban it will securely erase all the
data and also take forever.

my 2 cents.



Shotgun wrote:
> Hmmm. That's interesting. What about the old DOS command we used to use of
> "format c: /u" for an Unconditional format? Would that work to to completely
> erase it? I do have Norton Systemworks that will work on the old XP
> operating system and it has a DOD Wipe feature. How about a format and then
> a "wipe". That do it?
>
> "HeyBub" wrote:
>
>> Shotgun wrote:
>>>> TO PEGASUS: Oh, ye of little faith in strangers! I always figured a
>>>> stranger is just a friend I haven't met yet.....I do hedge that a
>>>> bit in real life by having a Concealed Handgun License <grin>.
>>>> Thanks for the reply. That was sage advice and is logical so I'll
>>>> try it. I really think I have transferred it all, but just can't
>>>> bring myself to "pull the trigger" by formating the harddrive on the
>>>> old one in preparation to selling it. While I have the ear of a
>>>> soothsayer (you), am I correct that once formatted, the old drive
>>>> will unreadable as far as my information is concerned and it will be
>>>> safe to sell? In your role as MVP have you considered changing your
>>>> name from Pegasus to Prometheus, as you are a big help. <g>.
>>>> Thanks.
>> No. Formatting doesn't bother the data at all and it's (almost) trivial to
>> recover.
>>
>>
>>