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Old 05-05-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: XP SP3 availability


I installed it in "SAFE MODE" and had no problems whatsoever.



Bruce Hagen wrote:

> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
> burned it and installed it.
>
> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>
>
> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
> build that will be released:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>
> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
> rush to download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>
> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>
>
> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>
> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
> system files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
> temporarily disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this
> by right-clicking your antivirus program icon (which typically appears
> in the bottom right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking
> Disable.
>
> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
> service pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be
> sure to enable it after the service pack is installed.
>
> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third
> party firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the
> Control Panel for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you
> can enable the third party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall.
> Do not keep both running.

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Old 05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
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Smirnoff wrote:

>To save hassle, I would disable before download. As long as you close
>all other applications.
>
>
>

Not a good idea to disable anti-virus when you are downloading anything
from the net. When you are installing, that is when you should disable
AV because this is when you are likely to have problems.

>If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to disable
>protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with these, the
>download kept hanging at 99%.
>
>


Why not earth would anyone use these rubbish programs? I use Windows
defender and it is quite adequate for my purpose. Also, I avoid those
sordid sites which are the [main] source of spywares and viruses.

>Also, make sure there is enough space in System Restore.
>
>
>

Very good idea.

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Old 05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
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Gerry wrote:

>Hi Bruce
>
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
>
>Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
>newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
>
>
>

Gerry,

The best judge of any installations is the user himself/herself. If you
don't try it yourself, you will never know whether these so called
problems are justified or not. I did not have any problems what so ever
and I am talking about not one system but 20 systems. I accept, I am a
very careful user who rarely visits those sordid sites or opens any
emails that appears to be dodgy. Therefore, my system is likely to be
free of any malwares or viruses.
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Old 05-05-2008, 01:40 PM
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"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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>>

> You are talking completely rubbish Gerry. The download is from a genuine
> Microsoft site and the link is this:
>
> <http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/svpk/2008/04/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4.exe>
>


And MS recommends customers NOT to download from any link that points
directly to the executable.....

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Old 05-05-2008, 01:50 PM
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"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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>


> Not a good idea to disable anti-virus when you are downloading anything
> from the net. When you are installing, that is when you should disable AV
> because this is when you are likely to have problems.
>



Agreed, but that is provided you can Save and then install. When people
start to get SP3 from MU/WU it's an all-or-nothing situation. Getting it
from MU/WU, I would make sure no other programs are running and disable the
AV for the whole operation as it can't be done in two steps.

When SP2 came out the OE newsgroups were inundated with problems and 99.9%
were caused by downloading from WU either automatically, or manually, but
with the AV running.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA

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Old 05-05-2008, 02:10 PM
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With SP2 the best way was the SP2 CD. The process is less susceptible to
problem. I may do that with SP3. I am in no hurry.


~~~~


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

ANONYMOUS wrote:
> Gerry wrote:
>
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
>>
>> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
>> newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
>>
>>
>>

> Gerry,
>
> The best judge of any installations is the user himself/herself. If
> you don't try it yourself, you will never know whether these so called
> problems are justified or not. I did not have any problems what so
> ever and I am talking about not one system but 20 systems. I accept,
> I am a very careful user who rarely visits those sordid sites or
> opens any emails that appears to be dodgy. Therefore, my system is
> likely to be free of any malwares or viruses.



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Old 05-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Tom [Pepper] Willett
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I made a CD from the ISO download from TechNet. Installed fine on all
machines that we put it on at work.

Tom
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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: With SP2 the best way was the SP2 CD. The process is less susceptible to
: problem. I may do that with SP3. I am in no hurry.
:
:
: ~~~~
:
:
: Gerry
: ~~~~
: FCA
: Stourport, England
: Enquire, plan and execute
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:
: ANONYMOUS wrote:
: > Gerry wrote:
: >
: >> Hi Bruce
: >>
: >>
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
: >>
: >> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
: >> newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
: >>
: >>
: >>
: > Gerry,
: >
: > The best judge of any installations is the user himself/herself. If
: > you don't try it yourself, you will never know whether these so called
: > problems are justified or not. I did not have any problems what so
: > ever and I am talking about not one system but 20 systems. I accept,
: > I am a very careful user who rarely visits those sordid sites or
: > opens any emails that appears to be dodgy. Therefore, my system is
: > likely to be free of any malwares or viruses.
:
:


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Old 05-05-2008, 08:40 PM
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"ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
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>
> Smirnoff wrote:


>>If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to
>>disable protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with
>>these, the download kept hanging at 99%.


> Why not earth would anyone use these rubbish programs? I use Windows
> defender and it is quite adequate for my purpose.


Do you have any evidence that SpywareBlaster and Spybot S&D are "rubbish
programs"? Unless they have changed, they are anything but. For all you
know, Windows Defender is a rubbish program!


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Old 05-06-2008, 10:46 PM
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"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>> burned
>> it and installed it.
>>
>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>
>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current build
>> that will be released:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should rush
>> to
>> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>>
>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>
>>
>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>
>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain system
>> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try temporarily
>> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by
>> right-clicking
>> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
>> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>>
>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the service
>> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure to
>> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>
>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third party
>> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control
>> Panel
>> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the
>> third
>> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both
>> running.

>
> Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
> installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
> installing only (after downloading)?


Even if you have a problem installing, all is not lost. I used a little
program called "End It All" to close down everything that was running. I was
unable to download and install SP3 from the official update site, using
Microsoft Update. I enabled everything and tried again successfully. The
only problem I've discovered thus far is that it converted IE7 to IE6. When
I say enabled everything I mean Windows Defender, Windows Live One Care and
TrojanHunter Guard. Just to let you know, Maybe I was lucky.


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Old 05-08-2008, 01:30 PM
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> The complete download is 316mb plus room for temp files so figure 2x the
> size of the package. If you are fully patched then amount downloaded is
> only 65mb so why don't you wait for Windows Update to offer it?


Assuming you are updating one PC which is already patched, the Windows
Update solution is fine. But when you update multiple PCs in any given week,
including some ground-up installs of XP, having the full 300mb file already
downloaded on a USB flash drive is ideal. Using Microsoft's Update process
does things in far too many steps & reboots in my environment.
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