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Old 05-04-2008, 10:40 PM
Kayman
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Re: XP SP3 availability

On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:

> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder, burned
> it and installed it.
>
> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>
> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current build
> that will be released:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>
> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should rush to
> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>
> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>
>
> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>
> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain system
> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try temporarily
> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by right-clicking
> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>
> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the service
> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure to
> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>
> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third party
> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control Panel
> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the third
> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both running.


Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
installing only (after downloading)?
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:40 PM
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: XP SP3 availability

If you have a problem downloading or installing then you can always do a
clean boot and return to normal boot after SP3 is installed. If AV is a
problem it is usually near the end of installation when it blocks writing to
the registry. If downloading does not complete then it is usually disk
space (you need 2X the size of the file).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353

"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:uQvLUJnrIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>> burned
>> it and installed it.
>>
>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>
>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current build
>> that will be released:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should rush
>> to
>> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>>
>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>
>>
>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>
>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain system
>> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try temporarily
>> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by
>> right-clicking
>> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
>> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>>
>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the service
>> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure to
>> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>
>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third party
>> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control
>> Panel
>> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the
>> third
>> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both
>> running.

>
> Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
> installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
> installing only (after downloading)?


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Old 05-05-2008, 12:10 AM
Ridge Runner
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Re: XP SP3 availability

That IS the exact same as RTM!!!!
There is no difference........there will be NO difference other than size
when MS get round to having it for downloading.

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eZsXoVkrIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Bear
>
> Is that link really to a Microsoft site and to a non-beta product? You do
> not a the web site! You get a Run or Save prompt!
>
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> If you want to download 316MB of data to install a 65MB update.
>>
>> ju.c wrote:
>>> I strongly recommend you download the official SP3 from Microsoft:
>>>
>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>
>>>
>>> ju.c
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O6Q9OYjrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your question
>>>> which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> rpgs rock dvds wrote:
>>>>> I bought XP Home OEM (SP2) recently and would like to reinstall it
>>>>> (for various reasons). I understand SP3 is now with us. It would
>>>>> make sense to install SP3 offline right after reinstalling XP+SP2
>>>>> (rather than installing XP+SP2 then connecting to the net and
>>>>> downloading 90+ patches).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not an MSDN subscriber etc, just a regular OEM XP Home buyer.
>>>>> I've visited microsoft's website and cannot find a link to download
>>>>> SP3 (in order to burn it to a CD for offline installation.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Will SP3 become available as a download to anyone soon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, regards, Robert.

>
>
>



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Old 05-05-2008, 01:30 AM
Kayman
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Re: XP SP3 availability

On Mon, 5 May 2008 00:05:12 -0600, Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> If you have a problem downloading or installing then you can always do a
> clean boot and return to normal boot after SP3 is installed. If AV is a
> problem it is usually near the end of installation when it blocks writing to
> the registry. If downloading does not complete then it is usually disk
> space (you need 2X the size of the file).
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
>
> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:uQvLUJnrIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>>> burned
>>> it and installed it.
>>>
>>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>
>>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current build
>>> that will be released:
>>>
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>>
>>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should rush
>>> to
>>> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>>>
>>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>>
>>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain system
>>> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try temporarily
>>> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by
>>> right-clicking
>>> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
>>> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>>>
>>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the service
>>> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure to
>>> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>>
>>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third party
>>> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control
>>> Panel
>>> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the
>>> third
>>> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both
>>> running.

>>
>> Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
>> installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
>> installing only (after downloading)?


Thanks, Colin.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:20 AM
Smirnoff
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Re: XP SP3 availability



"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:uQvLUJnrIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>
>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>> burned
>> it and installed it.
>>
>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>
>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
>> build
>> that will be released:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
>> rush to
>> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>>
>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>
>>
>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>
>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
>> system
>> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
>> temporarily
>> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by
>> right-clicking
>> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
>> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>>
>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
>> service
>> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure
>> to
>> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>
>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third
>> party
>> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control
>> Panel
>> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the
>> third
>> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both
>> running.

>
> Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
> installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
> installing only (after downloading)?


To save hassle, I would disable before download. As long as you close
all other applications.

If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to disable
protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with these, the
download kept hanging at 99%.

Also, make sure there is enough space in System Restore.




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Old 05-05-2008, 04:00 AM
rpgs rock dvds
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Re: XP SP3 availability

On 4 May, 20:06, rpgs rock dvds <rpgsrockd...********.co.uk> wrote:
> I bought XP Home OEM (SP2) recently and would like to reinstall it
> (for various reasons). *I understand SP3 is now with us. *It would
> make sense to install SP3 offline right after reinstalling XP+SP2
> (rather than installing XP+SP2 then connecting to the net and
> downloading 90+ patches).
>
> I am not an MSDN subscriber etc, just a regular OEM XP Home buyer.
> I've visited microsoft's website and cannot find a link to download
> SP3 (in order to burn it to a CD for offline installation.)
>
> Will SP3 become available as a download to anyone soon?
>
> Thanks, regards, Robert.


Thanks a lot for all replies. As my requirement to reinstall XP+SP2
then SP3 is not very urgent, I am happy to wait a short while for the
official download link to appear on microsoft website, but thanks very
much any way for all the other alternatives. Appreciated.

Best regards, Robert.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:00 AM
Gerry
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Re: XP SP3 availability

Hi Bruce

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images

Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Bruce Hagen wrote:
> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
> burned it and installed it.
>
> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>
> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
> build that will be released:
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>
> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
> rush to download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few
> days.
> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>
>
> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>
> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
> system files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
> temporarily disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do
> this by right-clicking your antivirus program icon (which typically
> appears in the bottom right-hand corner of the computer screen) and
> clicking Disable.
> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
> service pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and
> be sure to enable it after the service pack is installed.
>
> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third
> party firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the
> Control Panel for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you
> can enable the third party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall.
> Do not keep both running.
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uN7uoVkrIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Larc
>>
>> Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it
>> if you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?
>>
>>
>> ~~~~
>>
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Larc wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:27:29 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your question
>>>> which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking
>>>> for.
>>>
>>> Actually the RTM build is rather widely available. I've already
>>> installed it on two boxes and a laptop with no problems at all.
>>> System Properties > General tab shows "Service Pack 3" on all
>>> three. But if somebody has been keeping up with updates, there's
>>> really nothing there that's so critical waiting a few extra days or
>>> even weeks should matter very much.
>>>
>>> Larc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> §§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§



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Old 05-05-2008, 04:00 AM
Gerry
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Re: XP SP3 availability

Bear

What free disk space do you need to handle that size download?


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
> If you want to download 316MB of data to install a 65MB update.
>
> ju.c wrote:
>> I strongly recommend you download the official SP3 from Microsoft:
>>
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:O6Q9OYjrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your question
>>> which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking for.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> rpgs rock dvds wrote:
>>>> I bought XP Home OEM (SP2) recently and would like to reinstall it
>>>> (for various reasons). I understand SP3 is now with us. It would
>>>> make sense to install SP3 offline right after reinstalling XP+SP2
>>>> (rather than installing XP+SP2 then connecting to the net and
>>>> downloading 90+ patches).
>>>>
>>>> I am not an MSDN subscriber etc, just a regular OEM XP Home buyer.
>>>> I've visited microsoft's website and cannot find a link to download
>>>> SP3 (in order to burn it to a CD for offline installation.)
>>>>
>>>> Will SP3 become available as a download to anyone soon?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, regards, Robert.



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Old 05-05-2008, 06:00 AM
Kayman
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Re: XP SP3 availability

On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:11:55 +0100, Smirnoff wrote:

> "Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:uQvLUJnrIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 20:35:04 -0700, Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>>> burned
>>> it and installed it.
>>>
>>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>
>>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
>>> build
>>> that will be released:
>>>
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>>
>>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
>>> rush to
>>> download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few days.
>>>
>>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>>
>>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
>>> system
>>> files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
>>> temporarily
>>> disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do this by
>>> right-clicking
>>> your antivirus program icon (which typically appears in the bottom
>>> right-hand corner of the computer screen) and clicking Disable.
>>>
>>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
>>> service
>>> pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and be sure
>>> to
>>> enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>>
>>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third
>>> party
>>> firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the Control
>>> Panel
>>> for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you can enable the
>>> third
>>> party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall. Do not keep both
>>> running.

>>
>> Should the AV/A-S&FW applications disabled before downloading *and*
>> installing or is it adequate disabling the applications before
>> installing only (after downloading)?

>
> To save hassle, I would disable before download. As long as you close
> all other applications.
>
> If you have SpywareBlaster or Spybot S&D installed it is best to disable
> protection/immunisation before download. I had problems with these, the
> download kept hanging at 99%.
>
> Also, make sure there is enough space in System Restore.
>


Thanks, will do....Cheers :)
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:50 AM
Bruce Hagen
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Re: XP SP3 availability

It probably will get a little busier in the OE groups when everyone starts
to get SP3. There is already a bug present. <eg> If you get the compact
prompt and say OK, the compacting hangs on Folders.dbx. I /already/ have a
canned reply for that.

Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:

Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The counter
will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.

Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders are
open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online in the
Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch anything until
the compacting is completed.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Outlook Express
Imperial Beach, CA


"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:uHs$O7prIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bruce
>
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
>
> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE newsgroups
> <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a folder,
>> burned it and installed it.
>>
>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>
>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
>> build that will be released:
>>
>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>
>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
>> rush to download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few
>> days.
>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>
>>
>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>
>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
>> system files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
>> temporarily disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do
>> this by right-clicking your antivirus program icon (which typically
>> appears in the bottom right-hand corner of the computer screen) and
>> clicking Disable.
>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
>> service pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and
>> be sure to enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>
>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and any
>> anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a third
>> party firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall in the
>> Control Panel for the installation. Once SP3 is in and working, you
>> can enable the third party firewall and turn of the Windows Firewall.
>> Do not keep both running.
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:uN7uoVkrIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Larc
>>>
>>> Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it
>>> if you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> Larc wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:27:29 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your question
>>>>> which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking
>>>>> for.
>>>>
>>>> Actually the RTM build is rather widely available. I've already
>>>> installed it on two boxes and a laptop with no problems at all.
>>>> System Properties > General tab shows "Service Pack 3" on all
>>>> three. But if somebody has been keeping up with updates, there's
>>>> really nothing there that's so critical waiting a few extra days or
>>>> even weeks should matter very much.
>>>>
>>>> Larc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> §§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§

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Old 05-05-2008, 07:40 AM
Gerry
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Re: XP SP3 availability

Thanks Bruce for your tip. In my own situation I never allow it to get
to the compact prompt.


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Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bruce Hagen wrote:
> It probably will get a little busier in the OE groups when everyone
> starts to get SP3. There is already a bug present. <eg> If you get
> the compact prompt and say OK, the compacting hangs on Folders.dbx. I
> /already/ have a canned reply for that.
>
> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>
> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
> counter will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>
> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
> are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
> in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
> anything until the compacting is completed.
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:uHs$O7prIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Bruce
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
>>
>> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
>> newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a
>>> folder, burned it and installed it.
>>>
>>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>
>>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
>>> build that will be released:
>>>
>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>>
>>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
>>> rush to download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few
>>> days.
>>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>>
>>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
>>> system files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
>>> temporarily disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do
>>> this by right-clicking your antivirus program icon (which typically
>>> appears in the bottom right-hand corner of the computer screen) and
>>> clicking Disable.
>>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
>>> service pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and
>>> be sure to enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>>
>>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and
>>> any anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a
>>> third party firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall
>>> in the Control Panel for the installation. Once SP3 is in and
>>> working, you can enable the third party firewall and turn of the
>>> Windows Firewall. Do not keep both running.
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uN7uoVkrIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Larc
>>>>
>>>> Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it
>>>> if you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Larc wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:27:29 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your
>>>>>> question which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are
>>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually the RTM build is rather widely available. I've already
>>>>> installed it on two boxes and a laptop with no problems at all.
>>>>> System Properties > General tab shows "Service Pack 3" on all
>>>>> three. But if somebody has been keeping up with updates, there's
>>>>> really nothing there that's so critical waiting a few extra days
>>>>> or even weeks should matter very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> §§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§



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Old 05-05-2008, 07:50 AM
Bruce Hagen
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Re: XP SP3 availability

YW, Gerry. I don't let it get to the prompt either. But I heard a rumor so I
set the reg count to 100 and closed OE. Sure 'nuff.
--
~Bruce

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23GDgMzrrIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Bruce for your tip. In my own situation I never allow it to get to
> the compact prompt.
>
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> It probably will get a little busier in the OE groups when everyone
>> starts to get SP3. There is already a bug present. <eg> If you get
>> the compact prompt and say OK, the compacting hangs on Folders.dbx. I
>> /already/ have a canned reply for that.
>>
>> Compacting hangs on Folders.dbx after installing SP3 for XP:
>>
>> Until a patch is made available, compact your folders manually. The
>> counter will be reset to zero, and a manual compact won't hang.
>>
>> Click on Outlook Express at the top of the folder tree so no folders
>> are open. Then: File | Work Offline (or double click Working Online
>> in the Status Bar). File | Folder | Compact all folders. Don't touch
>> anything until the compacting is completed.
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:uHs$O7prIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Bruce
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...i=&safe=images
>>>
>>> Plenty of problems above to solve if business is slow in the OE
>>> newsgroups <G>. I admit to being somewhat surprised by the numbers!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce Hagen wrote:
>>>> I downloaded SP3 a few days ago. Chose Save and saved it to a
>>>> folder, burned it and installed it.
>>>>
>>>> Download & Save Service Pack 3 Here:
>>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>>
>>>> It is the correct MS product. My message headers reveal the current
>>>> build that will be released:
>>>>
>>>> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512
>>>>
>>>> That said, I don't think anyone in the *faint of heart* area should
>>>> rush to download it as it /should/ be available in MU/WU in a few
>>>> days.
>>>> I do recommend taking a few precautions when anyone downloads SP3,
>>>> (regardless of from where), such as the following.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../cc164204.aspx
>>>>
>>>> * If the configuration of your antivirus software prevents certain
>>>> system files from being changed, SP3 installation might fail. Try
>>>> temporarily disabling your antivirus software. You can usually do
>>>> this by right-clicking your antivirus program icon (which typically
>>>> appears in the bottom right-hand corner of the computer screen) and
>>>> clicking Disable.
>>>> * If you disable your antivirus software before you install the
>>>> service pack, be sure that you are aware of the risks involved, and
>>>> be sure to enable it after the service pack is installed.
>>>>
>>>> Before you download and install SP3, turn off your anti-virus and
>>>> any anti-spyware programs such as Windows Defender. If you use a
>>>> third party firewall, disable it and turn on the Windows Firewall
>>>> in the Control Panel for the installation. Once SP3 is in and
>>>> working, you can enable the third party firewall and turn of the
>>>> Windows Firewall. Do not keep both running.
>>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uN7uoVkrIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Larc
>>>>>
>>>>> Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it
>>>>> if you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>> FCA
>>>>> Stourport, England
>>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Larc wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:27:29 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your
>>>>>>> question which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are
>>>>>>> looking for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually the RTM build is rather widely available. I've already
>>>>>> installed it on two boxes and a laptop with no problems at all.
>>>>>> System Properties > General tab shows "Service Pack 3" on all
>>>>>> three. But if somebody has been keeping up with updates, there's
>>>>>> really nothing there that's so critical waiting a few extra days
>>>>>> or even weeks should matter very much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> §§§ - Change planet to earth to reply by email - §§§

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Old 05-05-2008, 08:50 AM
Colin Barnhorst
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Re: XP SP3 availability

The complete download is 316mb plus room for temp files so figure 2x the
size of the package. If you are fully patched then amount downloaded is
only 65mb so why don't you wait for Windows Update to offer it?

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Bear
>
> What free disk space do you need to handle that size download?
>
>
> --
> Regards.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> If you want to download 316MB of data to install a 65MB update.
>>
>> ju.c wrote:
>>> I strongly recommend you download the official SP3 from Microsoft:
>>>
>>> http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...2300ebfde4.exe
>>>
>>>
>>> ju.c
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O6Q9OYjrIHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from
>>>> Microsoft. Two links have been posted in response to your question
>>>> which ring alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking for.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> rpgs rock dvds wrote:
>>>>> I bought XP Home OEM (SP2) recently and would like to reinstall it
>>>>> (for various reasons). I understand SP3 is now with us. It would
>>>>> make sense to install SP3 offline right after reinstalling XP+SP2
>>>>> (rather than installing XP+SP2 then connecting to the net and
>>>>> downloading 90+ patches).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not an MSDN subscriber etc, just a regular OEM XP Home buyer.
>>>>> I've visited microsoft's website and cannot find a link to download
>>>>> SP3 (in order to burn it to a CD for offline installation.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Will SP3 become available as a download to anyone soon?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, regards, Robert.

>
>


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Old 05-05-2008, 10:50 AM
Larc
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Re: XP SP3 availability

On Mon, 5 May 2008 01:17:22 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:

>Larc
>
>Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it if
>you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?


I got mine here:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/Microsoft_...k_3_d4323.html

It's build 5512 RTM and is 316MB.


>
>Larc wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 23:27:29 +0100, "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> I strongly recommend you wait for the proper download from Microsoft.
>>> Two links have been posted in response to your question which ring
>>> alarm bells and you may not get what you are looking for.

>>
>> Actually the RTM build is rather widely available. I've already
>> installed it on two boxes and a laptop with no problems at all. System
>> Properties > General tab shows "Service Pack 3" on all three. But if
>> somebody has been keeping up with updates, there's really nothing
>> there that's so critical waiting a few extra days or even weeks should
>> matter very much.


Larc



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Old 05-05-2008, 01:10 PM
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Gerry wrote:

>Larc
>
>Available from whom? The operative word being Whom. You can get it if
>you have paid a subscription to Microsoft Technet but otherwise?
>
>
>
>
>
>

You are talking completely rubbish Gerry. The download is from a
genuine Microsoft site and the link is this:

<http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/software/svpk/2008/04/windowsxp-kb936929-sp3-x86-enu_c81472f7eeea2eca421e116cd4c03e2300ebfde4.exe>

hth


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