Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it? or do I
need to use a XP SP-2 CD?

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> crashed Echelon writing
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> Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it?
> or do I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?

Servicepacks are cummilative, they include all of previouses fixes.

So in other words, no.

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"Bjarke Andersen" wrote:

> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> crashed Echelon writing
> news:u#sz5mcpIHA.5916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
> > Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it?
> > or do I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?
>
> Servicepacks are cummilative, they include all of previouses fixes.
>
> So in other words, no.
>
> --
> Bjarke Andersen
>
>Actually your CD is a gold CD so you will need to ether make a slipstreamed SP1a CD or a slipstreamed SP2 CD so you can't slipstream SP3 into a CD with no service packs on it or if your CD has SP1a on it your good to go.

=?Utf-8?B?ZmxpcA==?= <flip@discussions.microsoft.com> crashed Echelon
writing news:FEB9A66A-C1D5-4FE8-82B2-9E9BA3187C7B@microsoft.com:

>>Actually your CD is a gold CD so you will need to ether make a
>>slipstreamed SP1a CD or a slipstreamed SP2 CD so you can't slipstream
>>SP3 into a CD with no service packs on it or if your CD has SP1a on it
>>your good to go.
>

Que? Gold CD?

I have successfully created install media with slipstreamed SP3 into XP
"Vanilla/Pre SP1" using the -s syntax.

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"Bjarke Andersen" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?ZmxpcA==?= <flip@discussions.microsoft.com> crashed Echelon
> writing news:FEB9A66A-C1D5-4FE8-82B2-9E9BA3187C7B@microsoft.com:
>
> >>Actually your CD is a gold CD so you will need to ether make a
> >>slipstreamed SP1a CD or a slipstreamed SP2 CD so you can't slipstream
> >>SP3 into a CD with no service packs on it or if your CD has SP1a on it
> >>your good to go.
> >
>
> Que? Gold CD?
>
> I have successfully created install media with slipstreamed SP3 into XP
> "Vanilla/Pre SP1" using the -s syntax.
>
> --
> Bjarke Andersen
>
>One of the changes in SP3 involves Windows Product Activation and being able to perform a full, integrated installation of Windows XP SP3 without providing the product key during the installation. This is true, but only if you use Windows XP SP1 or Windows XP SP2 as the basis for the slipstreamed CD. It does not hold true when you use a Gold Edition CD

SP3, unlike previous service packs, has a prerequisite. Do not slipstream
directly to XP Gold (original release with no service packs). SP3 requires
at least SP1 in order to slipstream. Slipstreaming will work but it will
not result in a correct OS when completed. Slipstream your original XP cd
and SP2 downloaded from MS and then slipstream SP3 to that.

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it? or do
> I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?

The slipstreaming works but that is not the issue. The resulting OS is
defective. This has been widely commented on before. That is why you
cannot upgrade from XP Gold to SP3 via Windows Update. If you try you
receive a blocker message that SP1 is the minimum requirement. This is
confirmed by MS.

"Bjarke Andersen" <bjarke.andersen******.com> wrote in message
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> =?Utf-8?B?ZmxpcA==?= <flip@discussions.microsoft.com> crashed Echelon
> writing news:FEB9A66A-C1D5-4FE8-82B2-9E9BA3187C7B@microsoft.com:
>
>>>Actually your CD is a gold CD so you will need to ether make a
>>>slipstreamed SP1a CD or a slipstreamed SP2 CD so you can't slipstream
>>>SP3 into a CD with no service packs on it or if your CD has SP1a on it
>>>your good to go.
>>
>
> Que? Gold CD?
>
> I have successfully created install media with slipstreamed SP3 into XP
> "Vanilla/Pre SP1" using the -s syntax.
>
> --
> Bjarke Andersen

The real reason not to use XP Gold directly with SP3 is that the SP1 and SP2
installers wrote changes to the XP Gold kernel files that were not contained
in any updates before or since. For reasons known only to MS these changes
are not repeated by the SP3 installer and so to get a correct OS these old
changes need to be made before SP3 is applied; thus, the minimum requirement
of SP1 or later.

"flip" <flip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Bjarke Andersen" wrote:
>
>> =?Utf-8?B?ZmxpcA==?= <flip@discussions.microsoft.com> crashed Echelon
>> writing news:FEB9A66A-C1D5-4FE8-82B2-9E9BA3187C7B@microsoft.com:
>>
>> >>Actually your CD is a gold CD so you will need to ether make a
>> >>slipstreamed SP1a CD or a slipstreamed SP2 CD so you can't slipstream
>> >>SP3 into a CD with no service packs on it or if your CD has SP1a on it
>> >>your good to go.
>> >
>>
>> Que? Gold CD?
>>
>> I have successfully created install media with slipstreamed SP3 into XP
>> "Vanilla/Pre SP1" using the -s syntax.
>>
>> --
>> Bjarke Andersen
>>
>>One of the changes in SP3 involves Windows Product Activation and being
>>able to perform a full, integrated installation of Windows XP SP3 without
>>providing the product key during the installation. This is true, but only
>>if you use Windows XP SP1 or Windows XP SP2 as the basis for the
>>slipstreamed CD. It does not hold true when you use a Gold Edition CD

"Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it? or
> do I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900871/en-us
"These tools help you run an in-place upgrade to Windows XP SP2 if the
original Windows Setup CD is an earlier version of Windows XP"

Lots of downloading then lots of copying - for SP2:
Wouldn't be similiar for SP3 ?

6. Type WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\XPCD, and then press
ENTER.
7.The Windows Service Pack 2 Setup Wizard starts and notifies you that
Windows XP SP2 files are being integrated into the Windows XP installation
folder.

There is a different issue that does not relate to the process of
slipstreaming. The prerequisite for SP1 or later before applying SP3 has
nothing to do with any problem slipstreaming but with problems with the
resulting OS when installed using the slipstreamed media.

"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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>
> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:u%23sz5mcpIHA.5916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it? or
>> do I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900871/en-us
> "These tools help you run an in-place upgrade to Windows XP SP2 if the
> original Windows Setup CD is an earlier version of Windows XP"
>
> Lots of downloading then lots of copying - for SP2:
> Wouldn't be similiar for SP3 ?
>
> 6. Type WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\XPCD, and then press
> ENTER.
> 7.The Windows Service Pack 2 Setup Wizard starts and notifies you that
> Windows XP SP2 files are being integrated into the Windows XP installation
> folder.

got it

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> There is a different issue that does not relate to the process of
> slipstreaming. The prerequisite for SP1 or later before applying SP3
> has nothing to do with any problem slipstreaming but with problems with
> the resulting OS when installed using the slipstreamed media.
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
> news:OAtpJqipIHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Clayton" <claytonbNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
>> news:u%23sz5mcpIHA.5916@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Is it ok to slipstream SP3 into a XP CD with no service packs on it?
>>> or do I need to use a XP SP-2 CD?
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/900871/en-us
>> "These tools help you run an in-place upgrade to Windows XP SP2 if the
>> original Windows Setup CD is an earlier version of Windows XP"
>>
>> Lots of downloading then lots of copying - for SP2:
>> Wouldn't be similiar for SP3 ?
>>
>> 6. Type WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\XPCD, and then
>> press ENTER.
>> 7.The Windows Service Pack 2 Setup Wizard starts and notifies you that
>> Windows XP SP2 files are being integrated into the Windows XP
>> installation folder.
>

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> SP3, unlike previous service packs, has a prerequisite. Do not
> slipstream directly to XP Gold (original release with no service packs).
> SP3 requires at least SP1 in order to slipstream. Slipstreaming will
> work but it will not result in a correct OS when completed. Slipstream
> your original XP cd and SP2 downloaded from MS and then slipstream SP3
> to that.

For a link on "how to do it", here's a good one:
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/s...ream_sp2.shtml
Result - CD with XP and SP2 on it.
THEN do it again when SP3 released - using that SP2 CD.

Yes, that works. I prefer nLite for its simplicity.

Also, although many slipstreaming programs apparently work when using Vista
x86 as the platform for slipstreaming XP, that also results in a bad copy of
XP SP3. The user must do the slipstreaming on XP x86 or he may not even be
able to enter the product key when he uses the slipstreamed cd to install a
copy of XP SP3 later. It has something to do with Vista's servicing stack,
as I recall.

The rules are slipstream with SP1 or SP2 as the base and slipstream on XP
x86.

"- Bobb -" <bobb@noemail.123> wrote in message
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>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4A85FE36-9704-454D-95A9-E3C6981FEA00@microsoft.com...
>> SP3, unlike previous service packs, has a prerequisite. Do not
>> slipstream directly to XP Gold (original release with no service packs).
>> SP3 requires at least SP1 in order to slipstream. Slipstreaming will
>> work but it will not result in a correct OS when completed. Slipstream
>> your original XP cd and SP2 downloaded from MS and then slipstream SP3 to
>> that.
>
> For a link on "how to do it", here's a good one:
> http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/s...ream_sp2.shtml
> Result - CD with XP and SP2 on it.
> THEN do it again when SP3 released - using that SP2 CD.
>

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Yes, that works. I prefer nLite for its simplicity.
>
> Also, although many slipstreaming programs apparently work when
> using Vista x86 as the platform for slipstreaming XP, that also
> results in a bad copy of XP SP3. The user must do the
> slipstreaming on XP x86 or he may not even be able to enter the
> product key when he uses the slipstreamed cd to install a copy of
> XP SP3 later. It has something to do with Vista's servicing stack,
> as I recall.
> The rules are slipstream with SP1 or SP2 as the base and slipstream
> on XP x86.

Rules? You can slipstream a GOLD CD, SP1a CD or SP2 CD with SP3 and you
will get the same results.

Also - I always *grin*when I see "I use nLite (or some other application)
for it's simplicity." The /integrate switch always seemed pretty simplistic
to me. ;-)

Although - you have a point about slipstreaming while using Vista - although
I have no empirical evidence to suggest that nLite works where /integrate
fails in such cases.

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