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Old 04-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Brad
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Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Hi,

Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
computer(s) in the past.

Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home edition.
It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences) how
it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.

What is your experience with the new version of NAV?

Thanks in advance, Brad

Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.

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Old 04-23-2008, 11:50 AM
R. McCarty
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Skip Norton ( or Symantec ). Just this morning I worked on a PC
with SAV ( Symantec Corp ) AV that had 2 Viruses on it. Nod32's
online scan found and removed the viruses.

Eset's NOD32 is a better choice, they offer both simple AV and a
more comprehensive Security Suite.
http://www.eset.com/

"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
> edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences)
> how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>



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Old 04-23-2008, 11:50 AM
ToddAndMargo
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Brad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences) how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>


I wouldn't do it. It only catches ~50% of viruses and it
is a bit of a resource hog.

Here is a good review based on actual virus testing:
http://www.anti-malware-test.com/?q=taxonomy/term/16

-T
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Old 04-23-2008, 12:30 PM
Bob I
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Open this group in Google groups, and do a search for "Norton" and
Symantec".

Brad wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences) how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>


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Old 04-23-2008, 12:40 PM
DL
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

I used Norton products for many years without problems, until v2005 - what a
disaster
BTW Turning off real time scanning effectively leaves you open to any
malicious software, any decent virus will disable / renders unusable your AV
as soon as it loads.

"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:480f8e19.4600720@news.verizon.net...
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
> edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences)
> how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>



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Old 04-23-2008, 01:20 PM
John
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

If I were you, I'd go for other AV software. Keep in mind that there is no
AV software that'll give you 100% protection.

"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I don't want NAV always running in the background.


If you don't enable AV real time protection while surfing the internet, you
may as well not install any AV software.

> I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.


I am sure all AV products provide on demand or manual scan.

> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?


Not that great.


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Old 04-23-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Bad thinking!
"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:480f8e19.4600720@news.verizon.net...
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
> edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences)
> how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>



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Old 04-23-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Symantec products get favorable reviews for reasons that are difficult to
fathom.
They tend to be resource hogs, although supposedly the newest version is
better.
They are incredibly expensive for what you are getting.
Worse, NAV can be impossible, I mean impossible to remove without taking
down your entire hard drive. Having experienced this I will never use NAV
ever.
For general antivirus use free programs like Avast and AVG are more than
adequate.
It is a myth that most general users who are behind a hardware firewall in
their router need a software firewall. For most users software firewalls
just complicate even further setting up networks.

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Old 04-23-2008, 02:10 PM
Big Al
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

dullpain wrote:
> Symantec products get favorable reviews for reasons that are difficult
> to fathom.
> They tend to be resource hogs, although supposedly the newest version is
> better.
> They are incredibly expensive for what you are getting.
> Worse, NAV can be impossible, I mean impossible to remove without taking
> down your entire hard drive. Having experienced this I will never use
> NAV ever.
> For general antivirus use free programs like Avast and AVG are more than
> adequate.
> It is a myth that most general users who are behind a hardware firewall
> in their router need a software firewall. For most users software
> firewalls just complicate even further setting up networks.


I do like the free version of zonealarm. I like the side effect that
anything that tries to access the internet needs your approval. I
don't think it complicates any networking at home that I do.

And I'll toss my vote for AVG or Avast.

I got McAfee 2 years ago on a Circuit City special for 4.95. Thought
this was going to be great, but it screwed things up so much. Gads!!!!
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Old 04-23-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Brad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
> edition. It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial)
> pre-installed. I am thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows
> me to control (preferences) how it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I
> don't want NAV always running in the background. I want to be able
> to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I want, the same way I did
> using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?


I doubt anyone on this group would recommend Norton, or, to a lesser degree
McCaffee.

There are several problems with Norton:

1. It is a resource hog, burning up to 15% of available CPU cycles.
2. It is difficult to remove. Very difficult. You have to run the secret
Symantec removal tool several times then manually scan the registry for
detritus left behind.
3. Norton interferes with many software installations - and doesn't tell you
it's bothering the install process. You end up with an application that
won't work and you don't know why. Virtually every bit of software that
tells you to "disable your virus checker" before continuing really means
"Disable Norton."


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Old 04-23-2008, 02:40 PM
Brian A.
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:480f8e19.4600720@news.verizon.net...
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences) how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>


I suggest installing/using NIS 2008 if you wish to use a Symantec application
for security and protection, you can configure it to do as you wish and more.
I've been using Norton/Symantec products since way back when without any issues
what-so-ever of any concern. I've also tested a number of other security
applications of which IMO none were better and many were worse, especially when
it boiled down to scanning the levels of archive files (zipped). No matter what
application anyone or you choose to install/use, performance of any application
and any machine will vary from machine to machine due to may variables.

--


Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


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Old 04-23-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

In article <78CD15D0-0BAD-479C-9541-457A9EA2A8AE@microsoft.com>, fac_187
********.com says...
> Symantec products get favorable reviews for reasons that are difficult to
> fathom.


The commercial products are almost always low on resource load, faster,
and provide great quality.

That said, their home user products are terrible resource hogs, but they
still protect very well.


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"HeyBub" <heybub******.com> wrote in message
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> Brad wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
>> computer(s) in the past.
>>
>> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
>> edition. It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial)
>> pre-installed. I am thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows
>> me to control (preferences) how it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I
>> don't want NAV always running in the background. I want to be able
>> to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I want, the same way I did
>> using NAV 2001.
>>
>> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?

>
> I doubt anyone on this group would recommend Norton, or, to a lesser degree
> McCaffee.
>
> There are several problems with Norton:
>
> 1. It is a resource hog, burning up to 15% of available CPU cycles.


Huh? As I currently look, not a single Symantec I have installed is using any
at all.

> 2. It is difficult to remove. Very difficult. You have to run the secret
> Symantec removal tool several times then manually scan the registry for
> detritus left behind.


There's nothing secret about their removal utility, it's been around for
years, no different than any of the other applications and Symantec isn't the
only one that has registry entries that are not removed.

> 3. Norton interferes with many software installations - and doesn't tell you
> it's bothering the install process. You end up with an application that won't
> work and you don't know why. Virtually every bit of software that tells you to
> "disable your virus checker" before continuing really means "Disable Norton."


If you truly believe your last statement, you truly don't realize the
importance of shutting down running programs when installing an application.


--


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Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375


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Old 04-23-2008, 05:10 PM
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Re: Thinking about buying Norton's AntiVirus

Here's my experience using Norton:
http://avscan.blogspot.com/2008/01/n...08-review.html

I've pretty much used all the major antivirus brands, and the blog
records my experiences. You might want to check it out. Best of luck!

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Old 04-23-2008, 06:41 PM
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"Brad" <bpetria@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:480f8e19.4600720@news.verizon.net...
> Hi,
>
> Note: I have used NAV (Norton's AntiVirus) 2001 on a Windows 98se
> computer(s) in the past.
>
> Over a month ago, I bought a new Dell laptop with Windows XP home
> edition.
> It came with Trend Micro PC-cillin (30 days trial) pre-installed. I am
> thinking about buying NAV, assuming it allows me to control (preferences)
> how
> it "behaves" as NAV 2001 did. I don't want NAV always running in the
> background. I want to be able to "run" NAV to check folders, etc. when I
> want, the same way I did using NAV 2001.
>
> What is your experience with the new version of NAV?
>
> Thanks in advance, Brad
>
> Before you type your password, credit card number, etc.,
> be sure there is no active keystroke logger (spyware) in your PC.
>


This year, I stopped on using NAV again. I didn't like 2007's version, used
it up until the year subscription was used up. Waiting on 2004 version
renewed subscription to expire next month. Going with Trend Micro AV and
its sister Trend Micro Antispyware. The latter has temporarily stopped some
local bonafide/trusted software installations in the past waiting for my
approval. Spyware its found locally has been cookies left by IE.
--
Dave

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should be changiing to compact fluorescent light bulbs and driving the
hybrid.


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