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Old 03-30-2008, 02:00 PM
RichardOnRails
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Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

Hi,

Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
complete, a window opened informing me::

The following updates were not installed
* Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
* Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)


"Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
Framework elements are installed:
* (English)
* 1.0 Hotfix
* 1.1
* 1.1 Hotfix
* 2.0 Beta 2
* SDK (English)

Why were the updates not installed?

Thanks in Advance,
Richard
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:00 PM
db ´¯`·.. >
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

if i recall, version
3 requires that the
previous versions
be uninstalled.

until then, ver
3 won't install.
--

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"RichardOnRails" <RichardDummyMailbox58407@uscomputergurus.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> complete, a window opened informing me::
>
> The following updates were not installed
> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
>
>
> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> Framework elements are installed:
> * (English)
> * 1.0 Hotfix
> * 1.1
> * 1.1 Hotfix
> * 2.0 Beta 2
> * SDK (English)
>
> Why were the updates not installed?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Richard


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Old 03-30-2008, 04:00 PM
RichardOnRails
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

On Mar 30, 5:57 pm, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. .
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote:
> if i recall, version
> 3 requires that the
> previous versions
> be uninstalled.
>
> until then, ver
> 3 won't install.
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "RichardOnRails" <RichardDummyMailbox58...@uscomputergurus.com> wrote in message
>
> news:36e1cce6-7667-47b3-8d69-9e981eab9006@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,

>
> > Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> > state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> > all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> > complete, a window opened informing me::

>
> > The following updates were not installed
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> > "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> > Framework elements are installed:
> > * (English)
> > * 1.0 Hotfix
> > * 1.1
> > * 1.1 Hotfix
> > * 2.0 Beta 2
> > * SDK (English)

>
> > Why were the updates not installed?

>
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Richard


Thanks, DB.

I my have posted prematurely. After I accepted Windows' announcement
about installation failure, I got another window with icons for the
failed items that had more info. I'll post back after I followed that
path to its completion.

Regards,
Richard
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:40 PM
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2 in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100 (ignore the title).

If no joy, see this related post by my colleague MowGreen:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...76de7769d04493

How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
whether service packs have been applied
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

RichardOnRails wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> complete, a window opened informing me::
>
> The following updates were not installed
> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)
>
>
> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> Framework elements are installed:
> * (English)
> * 1.0 Hotfix
> * 1.1
> * 1.1 Hotfix
> * 2.0 Beta 2
> * SDK (English)
>
> Why were the updates not installed?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Richard


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Old 03-31-2008, 06:40 AM
RichardOnRails
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2 inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignore the title).
>
> If no joy, see this related post by my colleague MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/micro...update/msg/4d7...
>
> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> whether service packs have been appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/
>
> RichardOnRails wrote:
> > Hi,

>
> > Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> > state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> > all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> > complete, a window opened informing me::

>
> > The following updates were not installed
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> > "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> > Framework elements are installed:
> > * (English)
> > * 1.0 Hotfix
> > * 1.1
> > * 1.1 Hotfix
> > * 2.0 Beta 2
> > * SDK (English)

>
> > Why were the updates not installed?

>
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Richard


Thanks for your excellent advice, Robear. I followed some of the
guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
without running other apps while updating.

Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

* Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
* Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
* Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
o Closed all running apps
o Automatically backed up Registry
* Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
o Ver. 1.1
o 2.0 x86
o 3.0 x86
* Update failed:
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
of 3)... done!
o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
of 3)... done!
o Initializing installation... done!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
failed!
o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
3)...Canceled
o Canceling updates...

Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom,

Best wishes,
Richard
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:20 AM
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

On Mar 30, 4:57*pm, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. .
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote:
> if i recall, version
> 3 requires that the
> previous versions
> be uninstalled.
>
> until then, ver
> 3 won't install.
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "RichardOnRails" <RichardDummyMailbox58...@uscomputergurus.com> wrote in message
>
> news:36e1cce6-7667-47b3-8d69-9e981eab9006@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi,

>
> > Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> > state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. *After reviewing them, *I selected
> > all four and directed that the updates be applied. *After the update
> > complete, *a window opened informing me::

>
> > The following updates were not installed
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> > "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> > Framework elements are installed:
> > * (English)
> > * 1.0 Hotfix
> > * 1.1
> > * 1.1 Hotfix
> > * 2.0 Beta 2
> > * SDK (English)

>
> > Why were the updates not installed?

>
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Richard- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


NO! .NET 3.0 does install when the previous ones are still on the PC
(I have all three.)
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Old 03-31-2008, 08:10 AM
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

you're welcome.

--

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"RichardOnRails" <RichardDummyMailbox58407@uscomputergurus.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 30, 5:57 pm, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. .
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote:
> if i recall, version
> 3 requires that the
> previous versions
> be uninstalled.
>
> until then, ver
> 3 won't install.
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> "RichardOnRails" <RichardDummyMailbox58...@uscomputergurus.com> wrote in
> message
>
> news:36e1cce6-7667-47b3-8d69-9e981eab9006@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,

>
> > Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> > state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> > all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> > complete, a window opened informing me::

>
> > The following updates were not installed
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> > * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> > "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> > Framework elements are installed:
> > * (English)
> > * 1.0 Hotfix
> > * 1.1
> > * 1.1 Hotfix
> > * 2.0 Beta 2
> > * SDK (English)

>
> > Why were the updates not installed?

>
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Richard


Thanks, DB.

I my have posted prematurely. After I accepted Windows' announcement
about installation failure, I got another window with icons for the
failed items that had more info. I'll post back after I followed that
path to its completion.

Regards,
Richard

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Old 03-31-2008, 08:20 AM
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

RichardOnRails wrote:
>>> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
>>> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
>>> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
>>> complete, a window opened informing me::

>>
>>> The following updates were not installed
>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>>
>>> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
>>> Framework elements are installed:
>>> * (English)
>>> * 1.0 Hotfix
>>> * 1.1
>>> * 1.1 Hotfix
>>> * 2.0 Beta 2
>>> * SDK (English)

>>
>>> Why were the updates not installed?

>>

> On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
>> See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2
>> inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignore the title).
>>
>> If no joy, see this related post by my colleague
>> MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/micro...update/msg/4d7...
>>
>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
>> whether service packs have been
>> appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785
>>

> Thanks for your excellentfor your excellent advice, Robear. I followed
> some of the
> guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
> until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
> Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
> without running other apps while updating.
>
> Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:
>
> * Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
> * Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> o Closed all running apps
> o Automatically backed up Registry
> * Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
> Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
> o Ver. 1.1
> o 2.0 x86
> o 3.0 x86
> * Update failed:
> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> done!
> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
> of 3)... done!
> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
> of 3)... done!
> o Initializing installation... done!
> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> failed!
> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
> 3)...Canceled
> o Canceling updates...
>
> Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom...


YW.

> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.


Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.


You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

Is Automatic Updates enabled?

> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> o Closed all running apps
> o Automatically backed up Registry


Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear of
all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
updates are failing. Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
your own conclusions.

If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/


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Old 03-31-2008, 05:50 PM
RichardOnRails
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

On Mar 31, 11:20 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> RichardOnRails wrote:
> >>> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> >>> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> >>> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> >>> complete, a window opened informing me::

>
> >>> The following updates were not installed
> >>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> >>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> >>> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> >>> Framework elements are installed:
> >>> * (English)
> >>> * 1.0 Hotfix
> >>> * 1.1
> >>> * 1.1 Hotfix
> >>> * 2.0 Beta 2
> >>> * SDK (English)

>
> >>> Why were the updates not installed?

>
> > On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> >> See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2
> >> inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignorethe title).

>
> >> If no joy, see this related post by my colleague
> >> MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/micro...update/msg/4d7...

>
> >> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> >> whether service packs have been
> >> appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

>
> > Thanks for your excellentfor your excellent advice, Robear. I followed
> > some of the
> > guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
> > until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
> > Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
> > without running other apps while updating.

>
> > Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

>
> > * Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
> > * Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
> > * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> > o Closed all running apps
> > o Automatically backed up Registry
> > * Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
> > Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
> > o Ver. 1.1
> > o 2.0 x86
> > o 3.0 x86
> > * Update failed:
> > o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> > done!
> > o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
> > of 3)... done!
> > o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
> > of 3)... done!
> > o Initializing installation... done!
> > o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> > failed!
> > o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
> > 3)...Canceled
> > o Canceling updates...

>
> > Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom...

>
> YW.
>
> > I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

>
> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?
>
> > I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

>
> You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.
>
> Is Automatic Updates enabled?
>
> > * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> > o Closed all running apps
> > o Automatically backed up Registry

>
> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
> MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
> back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
> so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear of
> all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
> updates are failing. Readhttp://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099and draw
> your own conclusions.
>
> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.
>
> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.
>
> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/


Hi Robear,

I'm replying here simply to respond to your questions on this thread.
In the future I will use the update NG. First off, update has been
successful. At least, I've got:
- 1.1
- 2.0 SP1
- 3.0
I thought I'd have 3.5 recommended/installed also, but it wasn't
recommended by Update. I'll probable get that when I install some app
that requires it.

Since my problem is solved, there's no need for you to read further.
Out of respect for the fact you provided me with a number of
instructive questions, I have listed them below, along with my
responses.

Again, thank for offering me your guidance. It is much appreciated.

Best wishes,
Richard

>> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

Yes, I only used 935100.

>> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

>You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

I was using Update under IE7. I was running Firefox in another
window.

> Is Automatic Updates enabled?

Yes

>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
>> o Closed all running apps
>> o Automatically backed up Registry

> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running MaxRegistryCleaner?

No, MaxRegCl offers that as a start-up option and I elected it.


> Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
> your own conclusions.

I will.

> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it

> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.


> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?

I don't know ... but I don't have it anymore :-)

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Old 03-31-2008, 07:30 PM
PA Bear [MS MVP]
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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

RichardOnRails wrote:
> On Mar 31, 11:20 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
>> RichardOnRails wrote:
>>>>> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
>>>>> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
>>>>> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
>>>>> complete, a window opened informing me::

>>
>>>>> The following updates were not installed
>>>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
>>>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>>
>>>>> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
>>>>> Framework elements are installed:
>>>>> * (English)
>>>>> * 1.0 Hotfix
>>>>> * 1.1
>>>>> * 1.1 Hotfix
>>>>> * 2.0 Beta 2
>>>>> * SDK (English)

>>
>>>>> Why were the updates not installed?

>>
>>> On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
>>>> See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2
>>>> inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignorethe title).

>>
>>>> If no joy, see this related post by my colleague
>>>> MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/micro...update/msg/4d7...

>>
>>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
>>>> whether service packs have been
>>>> appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

>>
>>> Thanks for your excellentfor your excellent advice, Robear. I followed
>>> some of the
>>> guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
>>> until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
>>> Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
>>> without running other apps while updating.

>>
>>> Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

>>
>>> * Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
>>> * Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
>>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
>>> o Closed all running apps
>>> o Automatically backed up Registry
>>> * Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
>>> Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
>>> o Ver. 1.1
>>> o 2.0 x86
>>> o 3.0 x86
>>> * Update failed:
>>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
>>> done!
>>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
>>> of 3)... done!
>>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
>>> of 3)... done!
>>> o Initializing installation... done!
>>> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
>>> failed!
>>> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
>>> 3)...Canceled
>>> o Canceling updates...

>>
>>> Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom...

>>
>> YW.
>>
>>> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

>>
>> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?
>>
>>> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

>>
>> You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.
>>
>> Is Automatic Updates enabled?
>>
>>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
>>> o Closed all running apps
>>> o Automatically backed up Registry

>>
>> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
>> MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
>> back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
>> so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear
>> of
>> all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
>> updates are failing. Readhttp://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099and draw
>> your own conclusions.
>>
>> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
>> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
>> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
>> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.
>>
>> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
>> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.
>>
>> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
>> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
>> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
>> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/

>
> Hi Robear,
>
> I'm replying here simply to respond to your questions on this thread.
> In the future I will use the update NG. First off, update has been
> successful. At least, I've got:
> - 1.1
> - 2.0 SP1
> - 3.0
> I thought I'd have 3.5 recommended/installed also, but it wasn't
> recommended by Update. I'll probable get that when I install some app
> that requires it.
>
> Since my problem is solved, there's no need for you to read further.
> Out of respect for the fact you provided me with a number of
> instructive questions, I have listed them below, along with my
> responses.
>
> Again, thank for offering me your guidance. It is much appreciated.
>
> Best wishes,
> Richard
>
>>> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

>> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

> Yes, I only used 935100.
>
>>> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

>> You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

> I was using Update under IE7. I was running Firefox in another
> window.
>
>> Is Automatic Updates enabled?

> Yes
>
>>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
>>> o Closed all running apps
>>> o Automatically backed up Registry

>> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
>> MaxRegistryCleaner?

> No, MaxRegCl offers that as a start-up option and I elected it.
>
>
>> Read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw
>> your own conclusions.

> I will.
>
>> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
>> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
>> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
>> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

> I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it
>
>> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
>> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

>
>> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
>> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?

> I don't know ... but I don't have it anymore :-)


> I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it


In future, RTFM in its entirety before acting! <eg>

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Re: Two "Software, Optional" updates not installed - Why?

On Mar 31, 10:18 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> RichardOnRails wrote:
> > On Mar 31, 11:20 am, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> >> RichardOnRails wrote:
> >>>>> Microsoft Update identified four updates as appropriate to the current
> >>>>> state of my WinXP-Pro./SP2 system. After reviewing them, I selected
> >>>>> all four and directed that the updates be applied. After the update
> >>>>> complete, a window opened informing me::

>
> >>>>> The following updates were not installed
> >>>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
> >>>>> * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416)

>
> >>>>> "Add or Remove Programs" indicates the following Microsoft .NET
> >>>>> Framework elements are installed:
> >>>>> * (English)
> >>>>> * 1.0 Hotfix
> >>>>> * 1.1
> >>>>> * 1.1 Hotfix
> >>>>> * 2.0 Beta 2
> >>>>> * SDK (English)

>
> >>>>> Why were the updates not installed?

>
> >>> On Mar 30, 7:33 pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...******.com> wrote:
> >>>> See Resolution: Method 1 (preferable) or Method 2
> >>>> inhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/923100(ignorethetitle).

>
> >>>> If no joy, see this related post by my colleague
> >>>> MowGreen:http://groups.google.com/group/micro...update/msg/4d7...

>
> >>>> How to determine which versions of the .NET Framework are installed and
> >>>> whether service packs have been
> >>>> appliedhttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/318785

>
> >>> Thanks for your excellentfor your excellent advice, Robear. I followed
> >>> some of the
> >>> guidance of the sites your referenced. Thinks seem to go very well
> >>> until I tried MS Update. I may of had a failure because I was running
> >>> Firefox while I was running Update in IE7. I'll try again later today
> >>> without running other apps while updating.

>
> >>> Just for the record, here's what I did and experienced:

>
> >>> * Uninstalled entire .Net Framework
> >>> * Ran WindowsInstallCleanup(MSICUU2.exe)
> >>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> >>> o Closed all running apps
> >>> o Automatically backed up Registry
> >>> * Ran Microsoft Update in IE7 with Custom option: Got 3 Software,
> >>> Optional MS .Net Frmwk items:
> >>> o Ver. 1.1
> >>> o 2.0 x86
> >>> o 3.0 x86
> >>> * Update failed:
> >>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> >>> done!
> >>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2
> >>> of 3)... done!
> >>> o Downloading Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0: x86 (KB928416) (update 3
> >>> of 3)... done!
> >>> o Initializing installation... done!
> >>> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1 (update 1 of 3)...
> >>> failed!
> >>> o Installing Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019) (update 2 of
> >>> 3)...Canceled
> >>> o Canceling updates...

>
> >>> Again, thanks for sharing your Microsoft wisdom...

>
> >> YW.

>
> >>> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.

>
> >> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

>
> >>> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.

>
> >> You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

>
> >> Is Automatic Updates enabled?

>
> >>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> >>> o Closed all running apps
> >>> o Automatically backed up Registry

>
> >> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
> >> MaxRegistryCleaner? If a Registry cleaner doesn't automatically make
> >> back-ups of the changes being made (or prompts you to do so...and you do
> >> so), steer clear of it. In fact, it might be a good idea to steer clear
> >> of
> >> all Registry cleaners: Your use of MaxRegistryCleaner may be why these
> >> updates are failing. Readhttp://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099anddraw
> >> your own conclusions.

>
> >> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
> >> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
> >> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
> >> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

>
> >> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
> >> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

>
> >> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
> >> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> >> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net
> >> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/

>
> > Hi Robear,

>
> > I'm replying here simply to respond to your questions on this thread.
> > In the future I will use the update NG. First off, update has been
> > successful. At least, I've got:
> > - 1.1
> > - 2.0 SP1
> > - 3.0
> > I thought I'd have 3.5 recommended/installed also, but it wasn't
> > recommended by Update. I'll probable get that when I install some app
> > that requires it.

>
> > Since my problem is solved, there's no need for you to read further.
> > Out of respect for the fact you provided me with a number of
> > instructive questions, I have listed them below, along with my
> > responses.

>
> > Again, thank for offering me your guidance. It is much appreciated.

>
> > Best wishes,
> > Richard

>
> >>> I followed some of the guidance of the sites your referenced.
> >> Why only some of it (unless you meant that you only used KB932100)?

> > Yes, I only used 935100.

>
> >>> I was running Firefox while I was running Update in IE7.
> >> You /must/ use IE to update via Windows Update website.

> > I was using Update under IE7. I was running Firefox in another
> > window.

>
> >> Is Automatic Updates enabled?

> > Yes

>
> >>> * Ran MaxRegistryCleaner.exe
> >>> o Closed all running apps
> >>> o Automatically backed up Registry
> >> Does that mean you backed-up the Registry prior to running
> >> MaxRegistryCleaner?

> > No, MaxRegCl offers that as a start-up option and I elected it.

>
> >> Readhttp://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099and draw
> >> your own conclusions.

> > I will.

>
> >> If you followed the instructions in KB923100, you should have manually
> >> downloaded/installed the .NET Framework versions you originally had
> >> installed. Then Windows Update/Automatic Updates should have offered you
> >> appropriate Service Packs and Hotfixes for them.

> > I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it

>
> >> Please post about any additional Windows Update problems in the Windows
> >> Update-specific newsgroup: microsoft.public.windowsupdate.

>
> >> PS: .NET Framework v2 and .NET Framework v2 SP1 were released years ago.
> >> Why did you still have a .NET Framework v2 beta build installed?

> > I don't know ... but I don't have it anymore :-)
> > I didn't read far enough to learn that. I'll follow up on it

>
> In future, RTFM in its entirety before acting! <eg>


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