On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification area"
there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as for "Local
Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.

Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For example the
Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at start up and
sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have verified the
programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is there a setup thing
I can do to assure they are always displayed. I DO NOT have the box
checked to "Hide Inactive icons".

Any tips appreciated

The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded
out on the keyboard:

> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification area"
> there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as for "Local
> Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
>
> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For example the
> Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at start up and
> sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have verified the
> programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is there a setup thing
> I can do to assure they are always displayed. I DO NOT have the box
> checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
>
> Any tips appreciated
>
>

Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),

The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and
in the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP devices"
(you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your icons will
re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are changed and
new devices can't be discovered.

I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media
server because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.

It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.

--
Terry R.

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OK. thanks. Sounds like it something i should leave along then if it cause
so muchother trouble.
thanks!

"Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
> on the keyboard:
>
>> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification
>> area" there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as
>> for "Local Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
>>
>> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For example
>> the Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at start up
>> and sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have verified the
>> programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is there a setup
>> thing I can do to assure they are always displayed. I DO NOT have the
>> box checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
>>
>> Any tips appreciated
>>
>>
>
> Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),
>
> The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and in
> the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP devices"
> (you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your icons will
> re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are changed and new
> devices can't be discovered.
>
> I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media server
> because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.
>
> It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.
>
> --
> Terry R.
>
> ***Reply Note***
> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

The date and time was 3/1/2008 2:13 PM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
on the keyboard:

> OK. thanks. Sounds like it something i should leave along then if it cause
> so muchother trouble.
> thanks!
>
> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:OUuqok9eIHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
>> on the keyboard:
>>
>>> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification
>>> area" there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as
>>> for "Local Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
>>>
>>> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For example
>>> the Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at start up
>>> and sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have verified the
>>> programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is there a setup
>>> thing I can do to assure they are always displayed. I DO NOT have the
>>> box checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
>>>
>>> Any tips appreciated
>>>
>>>
>> Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),
>>
>> The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and in
>> the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP devices"
>> (you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your icons will
>> re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are changed and new
>> devices can't be discovered.
>>
>> I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media server
>> because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.
>>
>> It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.
>>
>

If you're not using any devices that need UPnP, it doesn't need to be
running. The System Tray icon issue is enough of a hassle to keep it
turned off if you don't need it. Try turning it off like I described.

--
Terry R.

***Reply Note***
Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

Ok What is UPnp?

"Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:uO2Qlu%23eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The date and time was 3/1/2008 2:13 PM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
> on the keyboard:
>
>> OK. thanks. Sounds like it something i should leave along then if it
>> cause so muchother trouble.
>> thanks!
>>
>> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
>> news:OUuqok9eIHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded
>>> out on the keyboard:
>>>
>>>> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification
>>>> area" there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as
>>>> for "Local Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
>>>>
>>>> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For
>>>> example the Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at
>>>> start up and sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have
>>>> verified the programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is
>>>> there a setup thing I can do to assure they are always displayed. I
>>>> DO NOT have the box checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
>>>>
>>>> Any tips appreciated
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),
>>>
>>> The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and
>>> in the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP devices"
>>> (you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your icons will
>>> re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are changed and
>>> new devices can't be discovered.
>>>
>>> I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media
>>> server because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.
>>>
>>> It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.
>>>
>>
>
> If you're not using any devices that need UPnP, it doesn't need to be
> running. The System Tray icon issue is enough of a hassle to keep it
> turned off if you don't need it. Try turning it off like I described.
>
> --
> Terry R.
>
> ***Reply Note***
> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.

Universal plug and play.

"Trs80" <trs80******.com> wrote in message
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> Ok What is UPnp?
>
> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:uO2Qlu%23eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> The date and time was 3/1/2008 2:13 PM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
>> on the keyboard:
>>
>>> OK. thanks. Sounds like it something i should leave along then if it
>>> cause so muchother trouble.
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OUuqok9eIHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded
>>>> out on the keyboard:
>>>>
>>>>> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification
>>>>> area" there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as
>>>>> for "Local Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For
>>>>> example the Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at
>>>>> start up and sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have
>>>>> verified the programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is
>>>>> there a setup thing I can do to assure they are always displayed. I
>>>>> DO NOT have the box checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
>>>>>
>>>>> Any tips appreciated
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),
>>>>
>>>> The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and
>>>> in the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP
>>>> devices" (you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your
>>>> icons will re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are
>>>> changed and new devices can't be discovered.
>>>>
>>>> I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media
>>>> server because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.
>>>>
>>>> It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you're not using any devices that need UPnP, it doesn't need to be
>> running. The System Tray icon issue is enough of a hassle to keep it
>> turned off if you don't need it. Try turning it off like I described.
>>
>> --
>> Terry R.
>>
>> ***Reply Note***
>> Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
>> Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
>
>

You can disable UPnp in admin tools>services or...
http://www.grc.com/unpnp/unpnp.htm
--
Mike Pawlak


"Trs80" wrote:

> Ok What is UPnp?
>
> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
> news:uO2Qlu%23eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> > The date and time was 3/1/2008 2:13 PM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded out
> > on the keyboard:
> >
> >> OK. thanks. Sounds like it something i should leave along then if it
> >> cause so muchother trouble.
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> "Terry R." <F1ComNOSPAM@pobox.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OUuqok9eIHA.4056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:28 AM, and on a whim, Trs80 pounded
> >>> out on the keyboard:
> >>>
> >>>> On the right bottom of the desktop, I believe called the "notification
> >>>> area" there is a clock and icons for programs that are running such as
> >>>> for "Local Area Connection", Virus detection, clock etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why is it that I dont see all the program that are running? For
> >>>> example the Network Associates virus program will sometimes appear at
> >>>> start up and sometimes not? I have several others like this. I have
> >>>> verified the programs are actuall running so why dont I see them?. Is
> >>>> there a setup thing I can do to assure they are always displayed. I
> >>>> DO NOT have the box checked to "Hide Inactive icons".
> >>>>
> >>>> Any tips appreciated
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hi (Radio Shack ;-) ),
> >>>
> >>> The most common reason is when UPnP is set up. Open Network Places and
> >>> in the Network Tasks area, click "Hide icons for networked UPnP devices"
> >>> (you'll be prompted yes or no). Log off and back on and your icons will
> >>> re-appear. The down side is that the firewall settings are changed and
> >>> new devices can't be discovered.
> >>>
> >>> I have to turn it off when my workstation won't be used as a media
> >>> server because a couple programs even crash on login when it's on.
> >>>
> >>> It's about time MS get off their lazy butt and fix this big annoyance.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > If you're not using any devices that need UPnP, it doesn't need to be
> > running. The System Tray icon issue is enough of a hassle to keep it
> > turned off if you don't need it. Try turning it off like I described.
> >
> > --
> > Terry R.
> >
> > ***Reply Note***
> > Anti-spam measures are included in my email address.
> > Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply.
>
>
>