What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
has started doing it from time to time.

TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>has started doing it from time to time.

Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
provided.

Yeah, my thought also.

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
>>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>>has started doing it from time to time.
>
> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
> provided.

Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> Yeah, my thought also.
>
> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>>> has started doing it from time to time.
>>
>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
>> provided.
>
OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
hours.

What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

SpeedFan Version 4.33:
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

One factor on notebook heat is the surface the notebook sits on.
A wood desktop will retain and concentrate heat. Sometimes if
you elevate the back of the notebook it will allow a little air flow
underneath. Also a USB powered "Notebook Chiller" pad will
help keep the notebook cooler. Most notebook have little or no
airflow around the hard drive and some drives will run at or near
their maximum temp rating of ~130 degrees F.

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Yeah, my thought also.
>>
>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug
>>>> in
>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>>>> has started doing it from time to time.
>>>
>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
>>> provided.
>>
> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info, but
> didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service issues
> (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing unusual.
> It just shuts down without warning after running for several hours.
>
> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise detecting
> that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

In reply to TMitchell (tmitche2@ix.netcom.com) who wrote this in
13s872m53rskrbf@corp.supernews.com, I, Marvo, say :

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>> Yeah, my thought also.
>>
>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is
>>>> plug in to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious
>>>> reason? Mine has started doing it from time to time.
>>>
>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info
>>> you provided.
>>
> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
> hours.
>
> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

A few things. One is to reseat the battery (I know it sounds daft, but it is
often the problem); just take it out and slam it home again. When it shuts
down, does it just power off with no warning? Check also that the fan(s) are
not covered, I had this problem on a laptop which had a piece of paper
underneath it which was being sucked into the fan thus preventing any
airflow. The last thing is to blow the fans out (gently) with an airline
(such as you'd find at a tyre centre or service station), DON'T overdo it
because the airflow will spin the fans very fast and may damage the
bearings. They get full of fluff and stuff which again causes them to
overheat.

HTH

On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
> > Yeah, my thought also.
>
> > "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com.. .
> >> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
> >>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
> >>> has started doing it from time to time.
>
> >> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
> >> provided.
>
> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
> hours.
>
> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

I use SpeedFan:
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the
temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or
play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every
couple seconds.

ThankUncle Marvo wrote:
> In reply to TMitchell (tmitche2@ix.netcom.com) who wrote this in
> 13s872m53rskrbf@corp.supernews.com, I, Marvo, say :
>
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> Yeah, my thought also.
>>>
>>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is
>>>>> plug in to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious
>>>>> reason? Mine has started doing it from time to time.
>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info
>>>> you provided.
>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
>> hours.
>>
>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).
>
> A few things. One is to reseat the battery (I know it sounds daft, but it is
> often the problem); just take it out and slam it home again. When it shuts
> down, does it just power off with no warning? Check also that the fan(s) are
> not covered, I had this problem on a laptop which had a piece of paper
> underneath it which was being sucked into the fan thus preventing any
> airflow. The last thing is to blow the fans out (gently) with an airline
> (such as you'd find at a tyre centre or service station), DON'T overdo it
> because the airflow will spin the fans very fast and may damage the
> bearings. They get full of fluff and stuff which again causes them to
> overheat.
>
> HTH
>
>
s for the helpful tips. It shuts down without warning. It's in a
Lenovo docking station, so maybe there's an air flow issue with that.

throwitout wrote:
> On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> Yeah, my thought also.
>>> "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>>>> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
>>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>>>>> has started doing it from time to time.
>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
>>>> provided.
>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
>> hours.
>>
>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).
>
> I use SpeedFan:
> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
>
> It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the
> temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or
> play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every
> couple seconds.

Is there any system monitoring tool that comes with XP that can show CPU
temperature info?

No native XP support for any type of Thermal monitoring.

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> throwitout wrote:
>> On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> Yeah, my thought also.
>>>> "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...
>>>>> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason?
>>>>>> Mine
>>>>>> has started doing it from time to time.
>>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you
>>>>> provided.
>>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,
>>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service
>>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing
>>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise
>>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).
>>
>> I use SpeedFan:
>> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
>>
>> It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the
>> temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or
>> play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every
>> couple seconds.
>
> Is there any system monitoring tool that comes with XP that can show CPU
> temperature info?

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:06:45 -0600, TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in
>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine
>has started doing it from time to time.

Likely it is NOT related to the OS or XP, meaning the question does
not belong in this group as it is hardware related.

Ask elsewhere

I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by
drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two
short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..
The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to
pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.
I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to
be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot
laptops.
I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the
bedroom
http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030011.jpg
http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030014.jpg

apistomaster wrote:
> I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by
> drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two
> short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..
> The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to
> pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.
> I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to
> be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot
> laptops.
> I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the
> bedroom
> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030011.jpg
> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030014.jpg

Thanks for the idea.

Most people, like you, have been very helpful in this thread. One has not.

But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused
to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook
Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead
to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used
was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as
100C (yes that's "C").

I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to
my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard
and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the
waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some
schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by
suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool
Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple
moderator).

After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of
thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some
revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:13sbadv4vj1neb6@corp.supernews.com...
> apistomaster wrote:
>> I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by
>> drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two
>> short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..
>> The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to
>> pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.
>> I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to
>> be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot
>> laptops.
>> I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the
>> bedroom
>> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030011.jpg
>> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=P7030014.jpg
>
> Thanks for the idea.
>
> Most people, like you, have been very helpful in this thread. One has
> not.

On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:
> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused
> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook
> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead
> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used
> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as
> 100C (yes that's "C").
>
> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to
> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard
> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the
> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some
> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.
>
> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by
> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool
> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple
> moderator).
>
> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of
> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some
> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over
function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor
hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my
HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel
hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as
it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP
only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents
become uncomfortably hot.

Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.
As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a
minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the
lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design
methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that
must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings
about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid
shut.