i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1 gig is
used up.

The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used up, yet
applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used memory. how to free
up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram instead of 1. Its like i
have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted. also, why dont applications launch?
do i need to configure some swap space or something to ensure applications
launch?

What Chipset does the motherboard use ? Also does the motherboard
provide what's called Dual-Channel RAM support ? When you bring
up TaskMgr, Performance (TAB) what does the Physical RAM Total
value show ?

"DR" <softwareengineer98037******.com> wrote in message
news:Owvn0XbbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1 gig is
>used up.
>
> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used up, yet
> applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used memory. how to
> free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram instead of 1. Its
> like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted. also, why dont applications
> launch? do i need to configure some swap space or something to ensure
> applications launch?
>

Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?

You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the boxes
before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the figures
for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

DR wrote:
> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
> gig is used up.
>
> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram
> instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted.
> also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure some swap
> space or something to ensure applications launch?

Do you get the same effect when the memory sticks are reordered? What is
the configuration of your sticks? Are they in matching color dimm slots?

"DR" <softwareengineer98037******.com> wrote in message
news:Owvn0XbbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1 gig is
>used up.
>
> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used up, yet
> applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used memory. how to
> free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram instead of 1. Its
> like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted. also, why dont applications
> launch? do i need to configure some swap space or something to ensure
> applications launch?
>

it says 2050280 Total under Physical Memory

"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23rM1FebbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> What Chipset does the motherboard use ? Also does the motherboard
> provide what's called Dual-Channel RAM support ? When you bring
> up TaskMgr, Performance (TAB) what does the Physical RAM Total
> value show ?
>
> "DR" <softwareengineer98037******.com> wrote in message
> news:Owvn0XbbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1 gig is
>>used up.
>>
>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used up,
>> yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used memory. how
>> to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram instead of 1.
>> Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted. also, why dont
>> applications launch? do i need to configure some swap space or something
>> to ensure applications launch?
>>
>
>

Commit Change (K)
Total 780000
Limit: 5470000
Peak: 960000

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Ou910ebbIHA.5248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>
> You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
> the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the boxes
> before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the figures
> for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> DR wrote:
>> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
>> gig is used up.
>>
>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
>> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
>> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram
>> instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted.
>> also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure some swap
>> space or something to ensure applications launch?
>
>

DR wrote:
> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
> gig is used up.
>
> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of
> ram instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is
> wasted. also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure
> some swap space or something to ensure applications launch?


If you hadn't posted on every newsgroup - multiposted, not even
crossposted - you might get a better response.

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There is a Boot.Ini option or qualifier that can limit the RAM the system
can use /Maxmem:_ I doubt this is your problem but worth checking. I
would also double-check your BIOS setup for RAM configuration.

"DR" <softwareengineer98037******.com> wrote in message
news:uTUXiBcbIHA.5976@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> it says 2050280 Total under Physical Memory
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:%23rM1FebbIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What Chipset does the motherboard use ? Also does the motherboard
>> provide what's called Dual-Channel RAM support ? When you bring
>> up TaskMgr, Performance (TAB) what does the Physical RAM Total
>> value show ?
>>
>> "DR" <softwareengineer98037******.com> wrote in message
>> news:Owvn0XbbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1 gig is
>>>used up.
>>>
>>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used up,
>>> yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used memory. how
>>> to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram instead of 1.
>>> Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted. also, why dont
>>> applications launch? do i need to configure some swap space or something
>>> to ensure applications launch?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative.

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
System log in Event Viewer for the last boot. No Information Reports or
Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in a previous boot.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





DR wrote:
> Commit Change (K)
> Total 780000
> Limit: 5470000
> Peak: 960000
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:Ou910ebbIHA.5248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>>
>> You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
>> the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the
>> boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the
>> figures for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> DR wrote:
>>> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
>>> gig is used up.
>>>
>>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
>>> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
>>> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of
>>> ram instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted.
>>> also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure some swap
>>> space or something to ensure applications launch?

> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
> gig is used up.
>
> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of ram
> instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted.
> also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure some swap
> space or something to ensure applications launch?


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Regards,

PopRivet

Nope, not going to Vista. Why?
Simple: It offers me nothing I need nor
even want that I don't already have.
So, why switch? NOT gonna happen.

What does defragmenting the disk and all that disk cleanup stuff have to do
with a memory problem? Unless the disk is almost full, it should make
almost no difference to free disk space, and the only effect of
defragmenting would perhaps be a slight change in disk access speed.

Original poster: when an application "won't launch", what do you actually
see? Do you get an error message, or does simply nothing happen?

From your Commit Charge numbers you posted, it appears that you have about
a 3.5GB pagefile. Try dropping this to about half that size or less (so
the Commit Charge Limit number goes below 4G) and see what happens (I don't
expect this to fix the problem, just to possibly gather more info).

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in news:OChBP5cbIHA.4476
@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
> is more informative.
>
> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
> Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>
> Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
> System log in Event Viewer for the last boot. No Information Reports or
> Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in a previous boot.
>
> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
> Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer.
>
> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
> click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
> button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
> Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
> the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
> Event Viewer.
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
>
> DR wrote:
>> Commit Change (K)
>> Total 780000
>> Limit: 5470000
>> Peak: 960000
>>
>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Ou910ebbIHA.5248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the Performance
>>> Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit and the Peak?
>>>
>>> You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager. With
>>> the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check the
>>> boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What are the
>>> figures for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>> ~~~~
>>> FCA
>>> Stourport, England
>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> DR wrote:
>>>> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
>>>> gig is used up.
>>>>
>>>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
>>>> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
>>>> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of
>>>> ram instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is wasted.
>>>> also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure some swap
>>>> space or something to ensure applications launch?
>
>
>

Oh - if the disk IS almost full (<1GB or so free), do free some space.

Do you have onboard video, or is it a separate card? If it is onboard,
that is where at least some of the memory is gone to.

In any case, you will never get to use all of the physical memory, as
some (possibly 1/2) is allocated for use by the system (but not
necessarily actually in use) and is not available to applications. This
should not limit you to only 1GB in your case, as your applications
should also be able to make use of virtual memory (pagefile). Which
brings up another question: in Task Manager, what amount does the bottom
bar graph say for PF usage when your problem occurs?

And sorry for topposting - but I didn't start it.

he <who@dat.dere> wrote in news:Xns9A42CF91651571h6y23@207.46.248.16:

> What does defragmenting the disk and all that disk cleanup stuff have
> to do with a memory problem? Unless the disk is almost full, it
> should make almost no difference to free disk space, and the only
> effect of defragmenting would perhaps be a slight change in disk
> access speed.
>
> Original poster: when an application "won't launch", what do you
> actually see? Do you get an error message, or does simply nothing
> happen?
>
> From your Commit Charge numbers you posted, it appears that you have
> about a 3.5GB pagefile. Try dropping this to about half that size or
> less (so the Commit Charge Limit number goes below 4G) and see what
> happens (I don't expect this to fix the problem, just to possibly
> gather more info).
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in news:OChBP5cbIHA.4476
> @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:
>
>> Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
>> click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
>> Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as
>> it is more informative.
>>
>> Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
>> to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
>> select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
>> More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
>> Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
>>
>> Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
>> System log in Event Viewer for the last boot. No Information Reports
>> or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in a previous boot.
>>
>> You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
>> Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer.
>>
>> A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
>> double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
>> appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close
>> Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the
>> body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting
>> from Event Viewer.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> DR wrote:
>>> Commit Change (K)
>>> Total 780000
>>> Limit: 5470000
>>> Peak: 960000
>>>
>>> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Ou910ebbIHA.5248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Try Ctrl+Alt+Delete to select Task Manager and click the
>>>> Performance Tab. Under Commit Charge what is the Total, the Limit
>>>> and the Peak?
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to gather more information from Task Manager.
>>>> With the Processes tab open select View, Select, Columns and check
>>>> the boxes before Peak Memory Usage and Virtual Memory size. What
>>>> are the figures for the 6 processes using the largest amounts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry
>>>> ~~~~
>>>> FCA
>>>> Stourport, England
>>>> Enquire, plan and execute
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
>>>> DR wrote:
>>>>> i have 2 gigs of ram installed but applications wont launch once 1
>>>>> gig is used up.
>>>>>
>>>>> The performance monitor never shows more then 1 gig of memroy used
>>>>> up, yet applications wont launch when its near the 1 gig of used
>>>>> memory. how to free up that other gig so that I can use 2 gigs of
>>>>> ram instead of 1. Its like i have 2 gigs of ram and 1 gig is
>>>>> wasted. also, why dont applications launch? do i need to configure
>>>>> some swap space or something to ensure applications launch?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

You answer your own question. However, the Report can reveal useful
background information which users find easy to provide.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

he wrote:
> What does defragmenting the disk and all that disk cleanup stuff have
> to do with a memory problem? Unless the disk is almost full, it
> should make almost no difference to free disk space, and the only
> effect of defragmenting would perhaps be a slight change in disk
> access speed.
>

"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in news:#gu1XFibIHA.4144
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> You answer your own question. However, the Report can reveal useful
> background information which users find easy to provide.
>
>

Note that when you top post with the sig line below, it chops off
everything below in most newsreaders when replying. (I had to paste the
stuff below back in).

> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> he wrote:
>> What does defragmenting the disk and all that disk cleanup stuff have
>> to do with a memory problem? Unless the disk is almost full, it
>> should make almost no difference to free disk space, and the only
>> effect of defragmenting would perhaps be a slight change in disk
>> access speed.
>>
>
>
>

I was mostly questioning the defragmentation, not the disk space cleanup.

If there really is something wrong with the disk, defragmenting can
likely only make it worse. Even if everything is working properly,
defragmenting rarely does much good.

Defragmentation does not create more free disk space, it just rearranges
where it is.

I do agree with the logic of getting someone to do something that likely
won't fix a problem but that may generate a report that may be useful, or
maybe even make things worse to point out the problem.

If you are referring to what I think you are I snipped the part of the
reply not meant for me to make clear what I was replying to. Bottom
posting to one who top posts is just as annoying / irritating as top
posting is to those who prefer to bottom post. Given that Outlook
Express is used by the majority then anyone who uses one of your "most
news readers" is part of a minority. This debate is not one worth
having as both sides adopt implacable positions and it is OT in this
newsgroup.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
he wrote:
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in news:#gu1XFibIHA.4144
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:
>
>> You answer your own question. However, the Report can reveal useful
>> background information which users find easy to provide.
>>
>>
>
> Note that when you top post with the sig line below, it chops off
> everything below in most newsreaders when replying. (I had to paste
> the stuff below back in).
>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> he wrote:
>>> What does defragmenting the disk and all that disk cleanup stuff
>>> have to do with a memory problem? Unless the disk is almost full,
>>> it should make almost no difference to free disk space, and the only
>>> effect of defragmenting would perhaps be a slight change in disk
>>> access speed.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I was mostly questioning the defragmentation, not the disk space
> cleanup.
>
> If there really is something wrong with the disk, defragmenting can
> likely only make it worse. Even if everything is working properly,
> defragmenting rarely does much good.
>
> Defragmentation does not create more free disk space, it just
> rearranges where it is.
>
> I do agree with the logic of getting someone to do something that
> likely won't fix a problem but that may generate a report that may be
> useful, or maybe even make things worse to point out the problem.