I understand the issue. All I am saying is that if the floppy is bootable
it still will not boot the computer unless the fdd is ahead of the hdd in
the boot order (unless there is no OS on the hdd).

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
news:ux2rtsBbIHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Checking for bootable media" is not the same thing
> as "recognising disks in the FDD", which was the
> OP's problem. When I place my FDD last in the BIOS
> boot order then the machine will not normall boot off it,
> yet Windows will readily access any floppy disk
> I happen to insert.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:05320C93-8B32-4C5B-837D-BE1E447CC119@microsoft.com...
>> It should matter if an OS is installed on the hard drive. If so, the
>> floppy and cd drives should be ahead of the hdd or they will never be
>> checked for bootable media.
>>
>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
>> news:e%23t4ldAbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> The boot order should have no effect on the machine recognising
>>> your floppy disk drive. However, there are other BIOS settings
>>> that determine what type of drive you have. They are important!
>>>
>
>

.. . . except that the OP claims to have resolved his FDD access
problem by changing the boot order.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B02BC164-5335-41C2-B0D3-304DF35A4B2E@microsoft.com...
>I understand the issue. All I am saying is that if the floppy is bootable
>it still will not boot the computer unless the fdd is ahead of the hdd in
>the boot order (unless there is no OS on the hdd).
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> news:ux2rtsBbIHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Checking for bootable media" is not the same thing
>> as "recognising disks in the FDD", which was the
>> OP's problem. When I place my FDD last in the BIOS
>> boot order then the machine will not normall boot off it,
>> yet Windows will readily access any floppy disk
>> I happen to insert.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:05320C93-8B32-4C5B-837D-BE1E447CC119@microsoft.com...
>>> It should matter if an OS is installed on the hard drive. If so, the
>>> floppy and cd drives should be ahead of the hdd or they will never be
>>> checked for bootable media.
>>>
>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
>>> news:e%23t4ldAbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> The boot order should have no effect on the machine recognising
>>>> your floppy disk drive. However, there are other BIOS settings
>>>> that determine what type of drive you have. They are important!
>>>>
>>
>>
>

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:24:44 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"
<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> It should matter if an OS is installed on the hard drive. If so, the floppy
> and cd drives should be ahead of the hdd or they will never be checked for
> bootable media.


My view is different. I think that the hard drive should be kept first
in the boot order. I don't want the floppy or CD drive to be checked
to boot from. I hardly ever want to boot from one of those, and if I
do, I'll temporarily change the boot order then. I don't want to try
to boot from a floppy or CD accidentally left in the drive. It will
generate an error message if it's not bootable, but if it is bootable
(especially a floppy) it could have undesired consequences. For
example, although boot sector viruses are much less common these days
than they used to be, it's always possible that one could turn up on a
floppy. If the floppy is first in the boot order, and such a diskette
has been left in the drive, you're infected.




> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message
> news:e%23t4ldAbIHA.4208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > The boot order should have no effect on the machine recognising
> > your floppy disk drive. However, there are other BIOS settings
> > that determine what type of drive you have. They are important!
> >
> >
> > "attilathehun1" <attilathehun1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:E421E352-0D8F-4721-BFD4-F5ABCAD7D7AA@microsoft.com...
> >> Ok, Bingo! I went into BIOS and reset the order of the floppy drive from
> >> 4th
> >> place to 1st place. The order used to be removable drive, hard drive,
> >> CD-ROM
> >> drive, and then network boot drive or something close to network boot
> >> drive,
> >> which I figured out was the floppy drive. So now the order is network
> >> boot
> >> drive, hard drive, CD-ROM drive, and then removable drive. I saved it in
> >> BIOS
> >> and then the drive recognized my first floppy diskette.
> >> One thing though, I busted the button that you push to remove the
> >> diskette
> >> from the floppy. Figured, if something can go wrong, it will go wrong.
> >> I wondering if I can send away for a front panel from HP. The PC was a HP
> >> pavilion 503n. So I figure HP must have a front plate for this PC case?
> >> Well, now I know when I change a floppy drive I might have to go into
> >> BIOS
> >> if I'm having problems and configure something.
> >> Thanks, attilathehun1
> >> --
> >> attilathehun1
> >>
> >>
> >> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "attilathehun1" <attilathehun1@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>> message
> >>> news:530FA91B-6AED-44C2-BC92-0EE84819697D@microsoft.com...
> >>> > No, they are not new floppies, they old ones with data already on
> >>> > them.
> >>> > You
> >>> > think by replacing the old floppy drive that I might have to go into
> >>> > BIOS
> >>> > and
> >>> > configure the new floppy drive (A)? There is only one spot for a
> >>> > floppy
> >>> > and
> >>> > there isn't even a spot for a zip drive. I would have to get a new
> >>> > case if
> >>> > I
> >>> > wanted to put more than one floppy drive or a zip drive in this PC.
> >>> > When I first installed the new drive it said couldn't format the
> >>> > diskette.
> >>> > The green light did come on also. Now though I'm getting no light at
> >>> > all.
> >>> > And
> >>> > I don't even get an option to eject when I right click on the drive
> >>> > icon
> >>> > in
> >>> > My Computer when a diskette is in it.
> >>> > Thanks, attilathejun
> >>> > --
> >>> > attilathehun1
> >>>
> >>> How did you go with the simple floppy boot test?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >

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