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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
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Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.

I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.

Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they drop XP
on the MSDN disks?
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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

Pete;
Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
answer.
Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
SP-3 is released.
Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is no
real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier one
will be identical.

--
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http://www.dts-l.org


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>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>
> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>
> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
> drop XP
> on the MSDN disks?
> --
> PeteCresswell



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

Pete;
Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
answer.
Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
SP-3 is released.
Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is no
real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier one
will be identical.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>
> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>
> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
> drop XP
> on the MSDN disks?
> --
> PeteCresswell



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
LOL.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Pete;
> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
> answer.
> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
> SP-3 is released.
> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is no
> real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
> news:880al2trhnfk5h74cl150hukucalf0m9pa@4ax.com...
>>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>>
>> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>>
>> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
>> drop XP
>> on the MSDN disks?
>> --
>> PeteCresswell

>
>



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
LOL.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Pete;
> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
> answer.
> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
> SP-3 is released.
> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is no
> real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
> news:880al2trhnfk5h74cl150hukucalf0m9pa@4ax.com...
>>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>>
>> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>>
>> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
>> drop XP
>> on the MSDN disks?
>> --
>> PeteCresswell

>
>



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

Jupiter did say Windows XP does not change "except for service packs" I
believe.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
> LOL.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Pete;
>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>> answer.
>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>> SP-3 is released.
>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>> earlier one will be identical.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
>> news:880al2trhnfk5h74cl150hukucalf0m9pa@4ax.com...
>>>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>>>
>>> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>>>
>>> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
>>> drop XP
>>> on the MSDN disks?
>>> --
>>> PeteCresswell

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

Jupiter did say Windows XP does not change "except for service packs" I
believe.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
> LOL.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Pete;
>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>> answer.
>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>> SP-3 is released.
>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>> earlier one will be identical.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote in message
>> news:880al2trhnfk5h74cl150hukucalf0m9pa@4ax.com...
>>>I renew my MSDN subscription every couple of years instead of annually.
>>>
>>> I'd like to catch the last go-around that includes XP.
>>>
>>> Is this something imminent? Or will it be a few more years before they
>>> drop XP
>>> on the MSDN disks?
>>> --
>>> PeteCresswell

>>
>>

>
>



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

You seem to have missed this phrase:
"...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
when it first shipped.
Etc.

--
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
> LOL.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Pete;
>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>> answer.
>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>> SP-3 is released.
>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>> earlier one will be identical.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org



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Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

You seem to have missed this phrase:
"...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
when it first shipped.
Etc.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
> LOL.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Pete;
>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>> answer.
>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>> SP-3 is released.
>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>> earlier one will be identical.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org



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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

To Richard also:
Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is the
same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is no
real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier one
will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later and SP2
earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should have come
into play.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You seem to have missed this phrase:
> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
> when it first shipped.
> Etc.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
>> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
>> LOL.
>>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Pete;
>>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>>> answer.
>>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>>> SP-3 is released.
>>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>>> earlier one will be identical.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>> http://www.dts-l.org

>
>



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
Tom
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

To Richard also:
Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is the
same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is no
real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier one
will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later and SP2
earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should have come
into play.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You seem to have missed this phrase:
> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
> when it first shipped.
> Etc.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
> news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
>> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
>> LOL.
>>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Pete;
>>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>>> answer.
>>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well after
>>> SP-3 is released.
>>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>>> earlier one will be identical.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>> http://www.dts-l.org

>
>



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
Tom
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

I meant to say at the end "and SP3 shouldn't have come
into play."

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uBuIPvTBHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> To Richard also:
> Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
> identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is
> the same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is
> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later
> and SP2 earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should
> have come into play.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have missed this phrase:
>> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
>> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
>> when it first shipped.
>> Etc.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
>>> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Pete;
>>>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>>>> answer.
>>>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well
>>>> after SP-3 is released.
>>>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>>>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>>>> earlier one will be identical.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>>> http://www.dts-l.org

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
Tom
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

I meant to say at the end "and SP3 shouldn't have come
into play."

"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uBuIPvTBHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> To Richard also:
> Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
> identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is
> the same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is
> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later
> and SP2 earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should
> have come into play.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have missed this phrase:
>> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
>> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
>> when it first shipped.
>> Etc.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
>> news:uw5ksgTBHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> You don't make sense; how can they be indentical with different service
>>> packs on them? One big different would be the size of the intial install
>>> LOL.
>>>
>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23oyPxUTBHHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Pete;
>>>> Imminent, sure, but when, that is the question only Microsoft knows the
>>>> answer.
>>>> Windows XP SP-3 is currently planned for 2008, so my guess is well
>>>> after SP-3 is released.
>>>> Since Windows XP does not change except for the Service Packs, there is
>>>> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an
>>>> earlier one will be identical.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>>>> http://www.dts-l.org

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

If you do not like exceptions, that is OK with me.
If I had left out that exception, probably many others would have posted
back explaining there are differences in Windows XP Gold vs. Windows XP with
the various Service Packs.
The fact is several different CDs are available and I included that as a
necessary exception.

If I wrote the sentence the way you misquoted me, it would be wrong.
But you changed the meaning of what I wrote by your selective quoting.

I wrote it the way I wrote since confusing one individual such as yourself
is far preferable to the possibility of confusing or misleading everyone
else.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uBuIPvTBHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> To Richard also:
> Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
> identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is
> the same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is
> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later
> and SP2 earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should
> have come into play.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have missed this phrase:
>> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
>> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
>> when it first shipped.
>> Etc.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org



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Old 01-04-2007, 04:04 AM
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
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Re: Last MSDN Subscriptions To Include XP?

If you do not like exceptions, that is OK with me.
If I had left out that exception, probably many others would have posted
back explaining there are differences in Windows XP Gold vs. Windows XP with
the various Service Packs.
The fact is several different CDs are available and I included that as a
necessary exception.

If I wrote the sentence the way you misquoted me, it would be wrong.
But you changed the meaning of what I wrote by your selective quoting.

I wrote it the way I wrote since confusing one individual such as yourself
is far preferable to the possibility of confusing or misleading everyone
else.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Tom" <noway@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:uBuIPvTBHHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> To Richard also:
> Doesn't make sense, so you needlessly added the exception. Nothing is
> identical with exceptions. Mentioned was SP3, and of course SP2 disk is
> the same as an SP2 disk, but that isn't what you said. You said,"there is
> no real need to get a Windows XP published on a later DVD while an earlier
> one will be identical." If you're going to say that you meant SP2 later
> and SP2 earlier, then you should have left out "exception" and SP3 should
> have come into play.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3P$8qTBHHA.3316@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have missed this phrase:
>> "...does not change except for the Service Packs..."
>> Windows XP with SP-2 received today is identical to Windows XP with SP-2
>> when it first shipped.
>> Etc.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org



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