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Old 01-10-2008, 09:20 AM
psion
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Using Windows Backup

Hello,
I have a backup set to run.
It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still set.
However, it no longer runs automatically.
If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
run the task manually, it works.
Not automatically, however.

I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.

Has anyone seen this before?

Thank you,
Krzysztof
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Re: Using Windows Backup

Some further details:

The event viewer shows this data:

For the time it is to run automatically at 2 am, the removable storage
service starts (backup to tape) at 2 am, and 32 seconds later it
stops. The user for the start event is "nt authority/ system"

When the task is run manually, the removable storage service starts
and runs for 1.5 hrs, until the backup is done.
The user for the start event here is "n/a"

Thank you.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:10 AM
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Re: Using Windows Backup


"psion" <krzysztof.miszczak******.com> wrote in message
news:73a8de3d-9ffa-49d3-a6ee-ee7b528fa428@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
> I have a backup set to run.
> It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still set.
> However, it no longer runs automatically.
> If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
> run the task manually, it works.
> Not automatically, however.
>
> I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
> backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.
>
> Has anyone seen this before?
>
> Thank you,
> Krzysztof


What does the backup log report?


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Old 01-10-2008, 12:20 PM
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Re: Using Windows Backup

On Jan 10, 1:10 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73a8de3d-9ffa-49d3-a6ee-ee7b528fa428@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hello,
> > I have a backup set to run.
> > It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still set.
> > However, it no longer runs automatically.
> > If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
> > run the task manually, it works.
> > Not automatically, however.

>
> > I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
> > backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.

>
> > Has anyone seen this before?

>
> > Thank you,
> > Krzysztof

>
> What does the backup log report?


The latest log for the automatically ran task is blank, unlike the log
for the manually ran task.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Using Windows Backup


"psion" <krzysztof.miszczak******.com> wrote in message
news:e0e1e7ff-8051-4815-98f3-c047ed4d1c2a@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 10, 1:10 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:73a8de3d-9ffa-49d3-a6ee-ee7b528fa428@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > I have a backup set to run.
>> > It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still set.
>> > However, it no longer runs automatically.
>> > If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
>> > run the task manually, it works.
>> > Not automatically, however.

>>
>> > I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
>> > backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.

>>
>> > Has anyone seen this before?

>>
>> > Thank you,
>> > Krzysztof

>>
>> What does the backup log report?

>
> The latest log for the automatically ran task is blank, unlike the log
> for the manually ran task.


If the log file is blank then ntbackup is probably still running.
Have a look in the Task Manager!

To find out what's going on, log on under the same account
as the one you use for the scheduled task, then run exactly
the same job manually.


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Old 01-10-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: Using Windows Backup

On Jan 10, 3:29 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e0e1e7ff-8051-4815-98f3-c047ed4d1c2a@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jan 10, 1:10 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
> >> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:73a8de3d-9ffa-49d3-a6ee-ee7b528fa428@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>
> >> > Hello,
> >> > I have a backup set to run.
> >> > It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still set.
> >> > However, it no longer runs automatically.
> >> > If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
> >> > run the task manually, it works.
> >> > Not automatically, however.

>
> >> > I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
> >> > backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.

>
> >> > Has anyone seen this before?

>
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > Krzysztof

>
> >> What does the backup log report?

>
> > The latest log for the automatically ran task is blank, unlike the log
> > for the manually ran task.

>
> If the log file is blank then ntbackup is probably still running.
> Have a look in the Task Manager!
>
> To find out what's going on, log on under the same account
> as the one you use for the scheduled task, then run exactly
> the same job manually.


Hi,
The fact is that the automatically ran job ran at 2 am, stopped 32
seconds later. I ran it manually 6 hours later, and it completed. (I
did have to log on as the user under which the task is scheduled for
it to complete successfully. If logged on as anyone else and it's ran
manually, it will not run, but will stop after a few seconds)

Thanks
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Using Windows Backup


<froogle@valuetronics.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 10, 3:29 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:e0e1e7ff-8051-4815-98f3-c047ed4d1c2a@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 10, 1:10 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:
>> >> "psion" <krzysztof.miszc...******.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:73a8de3d-9ffa-49d3-a6ee-ee7b528fa428@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>>
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> > I have a backup set to run.
>> >> > It used to run ok. The same settings as I can remember are still
>> >> > set.
>> >> > However, it no longer runs automatically.
>> >> > If I log into the account under which the backup task is to run, and
>> >> > run the task manually, it works.
>> >> > Not automatically, however.

>>
>> >> > I do recall changing the password for the account under which the
>> >> > backup task is to run, and also changing it for the specific task.

>>
>> >> > Has anyone seen this before?

>>
>> >> > Thank you,
>> >> > Krzysztof

>>
>> >> What does the backup log report?

>>
>> > The latest log for the automatically ran task is blank, unlike the log
>> > for the manually ran task.

>>
>> If the log file is blank then ntbackup is probably still running.
>> Have a look in the Task Manager!
>>
>> To find out what's going on, log on under the same account
>> as the one you use for the scheduled task, then run exactly
>> the same job manually.

>
> Hi,
> The fact is that the automatically ran job ran at 2 am, stopped 32
> seconds later. I ran it manually 6 hours later, and it completed. (I
> did have to log on as the user under which the task is scheduled for
> it to complete successfully. If logged on as anyone else and it's ran
> manually, it will not run, but will stop after a few seconds)
>
> Thanks


Instead of running ntbackup via the Task Scheduler, run
the following 5-line batch file via the Task Scheduler:
@echo off
echo Start %date% %time% %UserName% >> c:\test.log
ntbackup /.. (grab the command line from your scheduled task!) 1>>
c:\test.log 2>>&1
dir /od "%UserProfile%\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
NT\NTBackup\data" >> c:\test.log
echo Finish %date% %time% >> c:\test.log

Now let's have a look at these two files:
- c:\test.log
- backup??.log (the most recent version)

You should also examine Application Log of the Event Viewer.


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