http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=

So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?

This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.


Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.

This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
itself!

I am impressed, hard to see what bad can come out of it.

i

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:06:28 -0500, flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>
> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>
> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>
>
> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>
> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
> itself!
>
>

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 03:17:03 +0000, Ignoramus19471 wrote:

(top posting fixed)
>
> i
>
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:06:28 -0500, flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org>
> wrote:
>> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>>
>> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>>
>> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
>> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of
>> Suse/Novell.
>>
>> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
>> itself!
>>

> I am impressed, hard to see what bad can come out of it.

"The deal with Novell Inc. is designed to make it easier for customers to
use both Linux and Microsoft's Windows software. It puts new pressure on
Red Hat Inc., a Linux seller whose shares were recently roiled when Oracle
Corp. announced plans to offer its own technical support for Red Hat's
products."

How is that good for Linux in general?

"In addition, Microsoft agreed not to file patent infringement charges
against users of Suse Linux,"

What about users of other brands of Linux?

I am hard pressed to see anything good that can come out of it.

--
Rick

On comp.os.linux.misc, in <Lmy2h.92$5e5.90@newsfe08.lga>, "flatfish+++" wrote:

Correction: A dishonest coward who _sometimes_ calls himself
"flatfish++" wrote:

<article not downloaded:
http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/README.offline>

The only thing I need from Windows is for it to stay the hell off
of my computer.

To my knowledge, this is the only thing that it _can_ do well.

Other than turning the amazing computer and internet into a
vehicle for mindless entertainment and hawking merchandise.

We already _had_ plenty of vehicles for those sorts of things
before the computer/internet came along.

Please note that this criticism is also directed at the Linux
distros who are determined to turn Linux into a Windows clone.

I hope they go bankrupt.

Alan

--
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http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconno...val/index.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconno...nix/index.html

Thanks for your kookfart, Beavis.

flatfish+++ wrote:

>
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>
> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>
> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>
>
> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>
> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
> itself!

On the contrary, I think this is a very smart move by Microsoft. Their Vista
development experience has taught them that the traditional closed source
model is incapable of producing quality operating systems beyond a certain
level of complexity.

I do not know how the joint research institute will work as Microsoft's
licenses try to work with mostly open source licenses that Novell has to
work with (GPL is viral, remember ?). Its bound to be interesting.

I won't be suprised if the Vista is the last traditional version of Windows
that Microsoft ever releases. As things stand, Microsoft makes more money
off Office than off Windows per se. Maybe they would want to have some say
in the future development of Linux as an OS as they start porting their
cash cows to Linux (and keep Office closed source - a stance I have no
objection to).

If that happens, Microsoft could become one among many proprietary vendors
selling software that runs on Linux platform - Mathworks, National
Instruments, Cadence, Adobe, Google, etc.

Microsoft is being smart, and I think that Linux users should welcome this
move. The GPL license is too viral to be affected. As to why Microsoft is
doing this - perhaps that SCO FUD was a last ditch effort to stop Linux
legally. Its pretty clear its not going to work. So the old adage goes, if
you cannot beat them, join them.

flatfish+++ wrote:
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>
> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>
> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>
>
> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>
> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
> itself!
>
>

Whohoo! So I wonder when we can expect the REAL Lindows?? Or maybe
WinuX? I can see it now... MS makes everything simple to use and
compatible in Linux and all the distros start using the MS codebase.
Most people accept it and move on while a select few old-school distros
hold on to the old horse-'n-buggy technology shaking their fist in the
air like an old man cursing the paper boy.

I'm ready for WinuX!

--
wjbell

Peter K abandon his firewall lie:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9552e5e2?hl=en

Jim R failing to address the issue after being asked:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....4a2d7224?hl=en

flatfish+++ wrote:
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>
> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>
> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>
>
> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>
> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
> itself!
>
>

Microsoft make a lot of money selling operating systems, but they make a
lot more selling software to run on them.

What this means is, that at last, we might see some decent application
software on linux. MS won't care if the programs are running on some
free distro if people are buying them.

Despite what a lot of COLAs say, MS has been working towards
standards-based software for some time. We will soon find .NET apps
readily available to run on linux. You will have to buy them from MS or
Novell, but people don't mind paying for something they want. There will
actually be competition (real).

Ian came up with this when s/he headbutted the keyboard a moment ago in
comp.os.linux.advocacy:

> flatfish+++ wrote:
>>
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>>
>> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>>
>> This is a good thing because maybe now sound,

already works. Intel 8xx generic sound driver.

>> scanning,

already works. HP 5300

>> ATI,

Works (after a fashion. 3D support is still crap, but the AMD/ATI merger
should take care of that in short order)

>> Canon,
>> Lexmark,

Nice one. Pick the two most expensive to maintain printers on the market.

Personally, I'd go for one of the 7xx series HP Deskjets for colour printing
up to medium-industrial use, and a Brother HL1030 or HP Laserjet 6L or 1200
series for monochrome/draft/document printing.

Lexmark ink is more expensive, drop for drop, than premium champagne. That
is a fact.
If you want tightarse economy and don't mind risking burning out the
(nonreplaceable) heads if/when the tanks dry out, then go with an Epson
(D78 or RX220 if you want the ability to print directly onto optical
media). Inks are stupidly cheap for these printers, and the four or six
separate tanks means that you're not replacing all four colours when one
has dried out.

>> you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>>

Not likely, unless they do something /really/ stupid.

>> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
>> itself!
>>
>>
>
> Microsoft make a lot of money selling operating systems, but they make a
> lot more selling software to run on them.
>
> What this means is, that at last, we might see some decent application
> software on linux. MS won't care if the programs are running on some
> free distro if people are buying them.
>

If that were the case then we'd have MS Office For Linux already.
Visual Studio Linux.
..NET Linux
....

Maybe they'll not want to step on the shoes of the Crossover guys.

> Despite what a lot of COLAs say, MS has been working towards
> standards-based software for some time. We will soon find .NET apps
> readily available to run on linux. You will have to buy them from MS or
> Novell, but people don't mind paying for something they want. There will
> actually be competition (real).

Microsoft sell neither operating system nor application software. They
sell /licenses/.
Licenses which give the end user the revocable right to use the software
imprint on the supplied media until a time of Microsoft's choosing, with no
implicit or implied warranty as to either its fitness for purpose nor its
usability as advertised. Even the security updates are supplied on
Microsoft's ridiculous terms (you must "prove" first that you did not
"steal" the software imprint - every single time you query the update
service). If such a sc~am/~heme hits Linux then I'll be going back to
Pencil[tm] and Paper[tm].
--
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-*- Registered Linux user #426308 -*- http://counter.li.org
-*- Arguing on Usenet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you
win, you're still retarded.
-*- <discl mode="Boilerplate" />

Ian came up with this when s/he headbutted the keyboard a moment ago in
comp.os.linux.advocacy:

> flatfish+++ wrote:
>>
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>>
>> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>>
>> This is a good thing because maybe now sound,

already works. Intel 8xx generic sound driver.

>> scanning,

already works. HP 5300

>> ATI,

Works (after a fashion. 3D support is still crap, but the AMD/ATI merger
should take care of that in short order)

>> Canon,
>> Lexmark,

Nice one. Pick the two most expensive to maintain Win*printers on the
market.

*NOTICE IT SAYS WINPRINTERS! DESIGNED FOR MICROSOFT! LINUX DRIVERS ARE HACKS
WRITTEN BY LINUX USERS FOR LINUX USERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE BECAUSE THE
MANUFACTURERS ARE SCARED OF PISSING ON BILL'S RUG!

Personally, I'd go for one of the 7xx series HP Deskjets for colour printing
up to medium-industrial use, and a Brother HL1030 or HP Laserjet 6L or 1200
series for monochrome/draft/document printing.

Lexmark ink is more expensive, drop for drop, than premium champagne. That
is a fact.
If you want tightarse economy and don't mind risking burning out the
(nonreplaceable) heads if/when the tanks dry out, then go with an Epson
(D78 or RX220 if you want the ability to print directly onto optical
media). Inks are stupidly cheap for these printers, and the four or six
separate tanks means that you're not replacing all four colours when one
has dried out.

>> you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>>

Not likely, unless they do something /really/ stupid.

>> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
>> itself!
>>
>>
>
> Microsoft make a lot of money selling operating systems, but they make a
> lot more selling software to run on them.
>
> What this means is, that at last, we might see some decent application
> software on linux. MS won't care if the programs are running on some
> free distro if people are buying them.
>

If that were the case then we'd have MS Office For Linux already.
Visual Studio Linux.
..NET Linux
....

Maybe they'll not want to step on the shoes of the Crossover guys.

> Despite what a lot of COLAs say, MS has been working towards
> standards-based software for some time. We will soon find .NET apps
> readily available to run on linux. You will have to buy them from MS or
> Novell, but people don't mind paying for something they want. There will
> actually be competition (real).

Microsoft sell neither operating system nor application software. They
sell /licenses/.
Licenses which give the end user the revocable right to use the software
imprint on the supplied media until a time of Microsoft's choosing, with no
implicit or implied warranty as to either its fitness for purpose nor its
usability as advertised. Even the security updates are supplied on
Microsoft's ridiculous terms (you must "prove" first that you did not
"steal" the software imprint - every single time you query the update
service). If such a sc~am/~heme hits Linux then I'll be going back to
Pencil[tm] and Paper[tm].
--
-*- Linux Desktops & Clustering Solutions -*- http://dotware.co.uk
-*- Registered Linux user #426308 -*- http://counter.li.org
-*- Arguing on Usenet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you
win, you're still retarded.
-*- <discl mode="Boilerplate" />

In <eb1sh.7o5.17.1@news.alt.net> Ignoramus19471 wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 22:06:28 -0500, flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.
> org> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...04&STORY=/www/
>> story/11-02-2006/0004466326&EDATE=
>>
>> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain
>> about?
>>
>> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
>> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>>
>>
>> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/
>> Novell.
>>
>> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it
>> trolls itself!
>>
>>
> I am impressed, hard to see what bad can come out of it.

You're easy impressed then.

Usenet Beavis writes:

> On comp.os.linux.misc, in <Lmy2h.92$5e5.90@newsfe08.lga>, "flatfish+++" wrote:
>
> Correction: My mental superior who _always_ likes to smack my bitch up
> wrote:
>
> <article downloaded and read: http://www.geocities.com/suhatrasabib>

Thank you for your kookfart, Beavis.

> The only thing I need from Usenet is for people to laugh at my kookfarts.

Mission accomplished.

> To my knowledge, this is the only thing that I _can_ do well.

And keep doing it, Beavis. You're providing free entertainment for the
masses.

> I am than turning the amazing computer and internet into a
> vehicle for mindless entertainment and amusement at my own koook self.

You're doing a very good job.

> We already _had_ plenty of vehicles for those sorts of things
> before the computer/internet came along.

Yes, but you have to travel a long time to enjoy a visiting circus. Now,
you have one in the comfort of your own home.

> Please note that I was dropped on my head, as a child.

We figured that, already.

> Beavis
>
> --
> http://www.geocities.com/suhatrasabib
> http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/
> http://tinyurl.com/23r3f


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flatfish+++ wrote:
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4466326&EDATE=
>
> So now what are the crazy Linux zealot nutsacks going to complain about?
>
> This is a good thing because maybe now sound, scanning, ATI, Canon,
> Lexmark, you name it, might actually WORK with Linux.
>
>
> Get ready for the rabid Linux nutsacks to start a boycott of Suse/Novell.
>
> This stuff gets better by the day. Nobody has to troll Linux, it trolls
> itself!
>
>
The lion always makes friends with the lamb before eating it. It's
called absorb and destroy. Kind of like what Chevy did to Geo Metro
(Suzuki) that got 58mpg. Chevy bought it and killed it. You can no
longer buy a Metro that gets 58mpg. In a year or two you will either
have to pay for Suse or it will disappear into nothingness. It's the
only dirty tatic M$ has in it's bag.



--

You are living somebody else's dream. The whole world, laws
and way of life; not your dream.


Clyde Crashcup

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:33:04 +0000, Ian wrote:

>
> Microsoft make a lot of money selling operating systems, but they make a
> lot more selling software to run on them.
>
> What this means is, that at last, we might see some decent application
> software on linux. MS won't care if the programs are running on some
> free distro if people are buying them.


But, but......

I have been told for years that OpenSource / Linux software is far
superior to Microsoft's and others Windows CSS software.

So which one is it?


> Despite what a lot of COLAs say, MS has been working towards
> standards-based software for some time. We will soon find .NET apps
> readily available to run on linux. You will have to buy them from MS or
> Novell, but people don't mind paying for something they want. There will
> actually be competition (real).


Buy???
You mean spend money??

Trying to pry a dime out of a diehard Linux user is almost damm near
impossible.

Why do you think Loki (The Linux games manufacturer) went under?

The cheap bastard Linux users didn't want to pay for software.

flatfish+++ wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 08:33:04 +0000, Ian wrote:
>
>>
>> Microsoft make a lot of money selling operating systems, but they make a
>> lot more selling software to run on them.
>>
>> What this means is, that at last, we might see some decent application
>> software on linux. MS won't care if the programs are running on some
>> free distro if people are buying them.
>
>
> But, but......
>
> I have been told for years that OpenSource / Linux software is far
> superior to Microsoft's and others Windows CSS software.
>
> So which one is it?
>

Don't ask Ian. He has no clue either, just like you

>> Despite what a lot of COLAs say, MS has been working towards
>> standards-based software for some time. We will soon find .NET apps
>> readily available to run on linux. You will have to buy them from MS or
>> Novell, but people don't mind paying for something they want. There will
>> actually be competition (real).
>
>
> Buy???
> You mean spend money??
>
> Trying to pry a dime out of a diehard Linux user is almost damm near
> impossible.
>
> Why do you think Loki (The Linux games manufacturer) went under?
>
> The cheap bastard Linux users didn't want to pay for software.

Why do you think that anyone believes your inane lies?
--
Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. The answer is NO