Sukhoi47 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
> backup.

In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
begging for trouble.


--

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Help us help you:
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

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From: "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t>

| Sukhoi47 wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>> backup.
|
| In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
| trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
| begging for trouble.
|

I can't agree more !

--
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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t>

| Sukhoi47 wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>> backup.
|
| In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
| trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
| begging for trouble.
|

I can't agree more !

--
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http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Hi Bruce,

On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services and
I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.

PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the files
are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted data on
their servers if they wanted to.

PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>> backup.
>
> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
> begging for trouble.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell

Hi Bruce,

On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services and
I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.

PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the files
are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted data on
their servers if they wanted to.

PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>> backup.
>
> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
> begging for trouble.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell

Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
$40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

"Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bruce,
>
> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>
> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted data
> on their servers if they wanted to.
>
> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>
> --
> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>> backup.
>>
>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
>> begging for trouble.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>> Russell
>
>

Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
$40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

"Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi Bruce,
>
> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>
> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted data
> on their servers if they wanted to.
>
> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>
> --
> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>> backup.
>>
>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
>> begging for trouble.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>> Russell
>
>

Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.

What am I missing here?


Gary



"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>
> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>
>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>
>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>
>> --
>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>> backup.
>>>
>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
>>> begging for trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>
>>> Help us help you:
>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>
>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>
>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>> Russell
>>
>>
>
>

Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.

What am I missing here?


Gary



"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>
> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>
>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>
>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>
>> --
>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>> backup.
>>>
>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
>>> begging for trouble.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>
>>> Help us help you:
>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>
>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>
>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>> Russell
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Gary,

You are missing the fact that all data sent offsite is encrypted by the
local machine before transfer. It cannot be read by sniffers or by anyone at
the remote location.
The only downside to that is if you lose your encryption key, you lose your
backups. There is no recovery from a lost encryption key.

While I recommend against encrypting files stored locally for all except
advanced users, I *insist* on file encryption for any data stored offsite
regardless of the user's skill level. This includes data stored to cd/dvd
and taken home at night.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>
>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>
>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>
>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>> backup.
>>>>
>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Gary,

You are missing the fact that all data sent offsite is encrypted by the
local machine before transfer. It cannot be read by sniffers or by anyone at
the remote location.
The only downside to that is if you lose your encryption key, you lose your
backups. There is no recovery from a lost encryption key.

While I recommend against encrypting files stored locally for all except
advanced users, I *insist* on file encryption for any data stored offsite
regardless of the user's skill level. This includes data stored to cd/dvd
and taken home at night.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>
>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>
>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>
>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>> backup.
>>>>
>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>

| Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
| have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
| a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
| system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
| $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

6GB can fit on one double-sided DVD or 1 blue-ray.

A small business could and should invest on a DVD Recordable drive.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>

| Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
| have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
| a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
| system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
| $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.

6GB can fit on one double-sided DVD or 1 blue-ray.

A small business could and should invest on a DVD Recordable drive.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net>

|
| Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
| circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
| send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
|
| What am I missing here?
|
| Gary
|


Nothing Gary -- You are missing nothing.
Data is more valuable then the hardware that it sits on.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net>

|
| Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
| circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
| send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
|
| What am I missing here?
|
| Gary
|


Nothing Gary -- You are missing nothing.
Data is more valuable then the hardware that it sits on.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm