Yep
http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html


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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>
> PS: I wonder if there are PATA and/or SATA tape drives ?
>
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From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>

| Yep
| http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html
|

Well there 'ya go. Danca !

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From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>

| Yep
| http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html
|

Well there 'ya go. Danca !

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Pop wrote:

> Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
> solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
> can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
> drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
> data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
> You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
> rotate.
>
> JMO
>
> Pop
>

Ok Pop, and how about the "where are you going to store this removable
hd" question? And the fact that not only damaged drives are the cause
of data lost.

If you work with irreplaceable data, like a whole transaction of
emails, burning a DVD or coping to a HD is only valuable if you can
store this data OUTSIDE of your company. Are you going to walk around
with the removable HD home-office-home everytime you need to copy
something?

I use a remote backup service. And, unless you have a big company that
can afford a theft-and-burn-proof storehouse, or lead with FBI top
secret information, these services are the best option around.

That is my opinion.
Regards,
Tiago

Pop wrote:

> Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
> solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
> can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
> drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
> data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
> You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
> rotate.
>
> JMO
>
> Pop
>

Ok Pop, and how about the "where are you going to store this removable
hd" question? And the fact that not only damaged drives are the cause
of data lost.

If you work with irreplaceable data, like a whole transaction of
emails, burning a DVD or coping to a HD is only valuable if you can
store this data OUTSIDE of your company. Are you going to walk around
with the removable HD home-office-home everytime you need to copy
something?

I use a remote backup service. And, unless you have a big company that
can afford a theft-and-burn-proof storehouse, or lead with FBI top
secret information, these services are the best option around.

That is my opinion.
Regards,
Tiago

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> > I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
> > backup.
>
> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
> begging for trouble.



Bruce,

Mozy have a user controlled encryption system, with 448 bits key.
I tested, works fine.

But if the user don't trust in the embebed mozy encryption, he is able
to encrypt the data with a third part encryption software (Winrar is
good for this) before do the backup. So the user have 2 encryption
layers.

I have my local backup, but I believe have a second non-local backup is
a very good idea.
So I have a protection in case of fire, stolen, etc.

Maybe is not a good tool for you, but will be useful for many.
My suggestion is only this, a suggestion.

Thanks.

SB

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> > I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
> > backup.
>
> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just be
> begging for trouble.



Bruce,

Mozy have a user controlled encryption system, with 448 bits key.
I tested, works fine.

But if the user don't trust in the embebed mozy encryption, he is able
to encrypt the data with a third part encryption software (Winrar is
good for this) before do the backup. So the user have 2 encryption
layers.

I have my local backup, but I believe have a second non-local backup is
a very good idea.
So I have a protection in case of fire, stolen, etc.

Maybe is not a good tool for you, but will be useful for many.
My suggestion is only this, a suggestion.

Thanks.

SB

claus wrote:
> Pop wrote:
>
>> Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much
>> better solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data
>> and what they can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more
>> convenient to plug in the drive and go. Probably faster too when
>> you consider the time that amount of data could take to transit,
>> espeically when uploading. You keep one backup on an internal
>> drive, the rest of the externals and rotate.
>>
>> JMO
>>
>> Pop
>>
>
You're certainly entitled to your own opinions and I have no issues with
anything you proposed, other than maybe a little snottiness in the
beginning<g>.

> Ok Pop, and how about the "where are you going to store this removable
> hd" question?

Where am I going to store it? Periodic, premanent, Quarterly FULL backups
on DVD are stored at my sister's home about 500' up the road from me.
The unused External drive is stored in my fireproof safe. This is a FULL
plus intermediates.
The most current and in-use external drive sits on the desk. Same as
other external drive.

> ... And the fact that not only damaged drives are the cause
> of data lost.

Not sure I understand what you want to know there. Damaged physical hard
drives are seldom the reason for loss of data and only part of the reason
for having two of them for rotating data.
>
> If you work with irreplaceable data, like a whole transaction of
> emails, burning a DVD or coping to a HD is only valuable if you can
> store this data OUTSIDE of your company.

That's silly. At the last place I worked, we simply stored all the archives
in the hangar, about a mile away from us. But we owned it, so that wasn't
"outside" the company. For catastrophic protection what you want is "off
site" storage, NOT outside the company. In fact, outside the company is a
lot less safe that on company propterty where only known, authorized
employees handle the archives. You'll find most companies keep the data on
their OWN proptery, looked after by their own authorized employees, and
where it's almost instantly available.
In addition, catastrophic protection is NOT the most widely source of
recovered data. The vast majority of times data loss is recovered directly
from the currently running archival machine, whatever it be.

Are you going to walk around
> with the removable HD home-office-home everytime you need to copy
> something?

If a person is having to copy something casually like that, then the copies
would come from the currently running archival equipment in order to get the
most current data.

>
> I use a remote backup service. And, unless you have a big company that
> can afford a theft-and-burn-proof storehouse, or lead with FBI top
> secret information, these services are the best option around.

I have no problems with subscribing to a back-up service if that's what you
want to do. It works for may people. However, you're only going to use
THAT resource in the case of a catastrophic loss, not to get back a file or
two. There has to be much more than just a copy at some paid for storage.

You can afford a lot of large external hard drives for the cost of a year or
so storage at some unknown location you can only get to if the internet
backbones and your computer and telco and communication trunks are
functional.

I go by:
-- Never transmit sensitive data into the air or over wires that leave your
building.
-- Never store archival data where it is not instantly available to you
upon showing up at the location where it's kept.
-- Keep in mind that encrypting is NOT a 100% protection against data
loss to another individual if they are determined to get it.
-- Only allow trusted, authorized individuals to handle the data and keep
the records of the data.
-- Keep logs of events and all transaction.
-- Keep an alternate periodic copy of full backups off site.
-- A fireproof safe is a good alternative if it's installed properly and
properly rated and located. And, they are not expensive.
-- Never, EVER allow data to be accessible from the internet.
-- ALWAYS have incrementals being run at a rate which fits your business
pattern. Realtime archiving is useful but usually not necessary.
-- Internet services (modem, gateway, etc) should never be active at the
same time the backups are powered on. In my case it's all automated and
working well.

Those are easy implementations of pretty decent security IFF it's needed.
Such storage retrieval is seldom needed, and if it is, there's something
wrong with the archiving methodology.
Most users will be served very well by simply keeping a copy of their
archives at a relative's or at least somewhere not close to the system, plus
on at least one local external hard drive.

The 'best' setup is what works for the user and allots him a reasonable rate
of protection that he understands and can make work.

And them's my opinions<g>
Pop`

>
> That is my opinion.
> Regards,
> Tiago

From: "Sukhoi47" <sukhoi.berkut.47******.com>


|
| Bruce,
|
| Mozy have a user controlled encryption system, with 448 bits key.
| I tested, works fine.
|
| But if the user don't trust in the embebed mozy encryption, he is able
| to encrypt the data with a third part encryption software (Winrar is
| good for this) before do the backup. So the user have 2 encryption
| layers.
|
| I have my local backup, but I believe have a second non-local backup is
| a very good idea.
| So I have a protection in case of fire, stolen, etc.
|
| Maybe is not a good tool for you, but will be useful for many.
| My suggestion is only this, a suggestion.
|
| Thanks.
|
| SB

Actually... It is more like spam than a suggestion.

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