Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.

Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
protected. The customer wanted something he could just
setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
controller really didn't meet his needs.

It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
server and check the backup logs.

"Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>
>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>
>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>
>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>> backup.
>>>>
>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.

Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
protected. The customer wanted something he could just
setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
controller really didn't meet his needs.

It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
server and check the backup logs.

"Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>
> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>
>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>
>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>
>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>> backup.
>>>>
>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>
>>>> Help us help you:
>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>
>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>
>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>> Russell
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:%23gVbOU7%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>
>
> | Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
> | have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
> | a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
> | system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
> | $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>
> 6GB can fit on one double-sided DVD or 1 blue-ray.
>
> A small business could and should invest on a DVD Recordable drive.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:%23gVbOU7%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>
>
> | Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
> | have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
> | a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
> | system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
> | $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>
> 6GB can fit on one double-sided DVD or 1 blue-ray.
>
> A small business could and should invest on a DVD Recordable drive.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>

| Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
| subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
| when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
| suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
| can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.
|

Then they can afford a DAT, AIT, Travan or other, USB v2.0, SCSI or FireWire tape drive

Personally, I backup 4.5GB onto DVDRW media in ~15 minutes. No issues yet and I have had to
restore data one in a while. I use multiple DVRW discs and rotate them. I don't even have
a business. I just care about "MY" data.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>

| Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
| subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
| when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
| suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
| can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.
|

Then they can afford a DAT, AIT, Travan or other, USB v2.0, SCSI or FireWire tape drive

Personally, I backup 4.5GB onto DVDRW media in ~15 minutes. No issues yet and I have had to
restore data one in a while. I use multiple DVRW discs and rotate them. I don't even have
a business. I just care about "MY" data.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Thanks for all the replies, Larry, David, and R.McCarty.

I was pretty sure that encryption was in the picture, but
still skeptical. I guess it's just a strong concern of having
my data of someone else's system. Sensitive data, that is.

Thanks again, for the clues.

Gary




"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23bdC6W7%23GHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
> is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
> concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
> Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
> of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.
>
> Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
> protected. The customer wanted something he could just
> setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
> controller really didn't meet his needs.
>
> It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
> server and check the backup logs.
>
> "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>>
>> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
>> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
>> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>>
>>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>>
>>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>>> Russell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks for all the replies, Larry, David, and R.McCarty.

I was pretty sure that encryption was in the picture, but
still skeptical. I guess it's just a strong concern of having
my data of someone else's system. Sensitive data, that is.

Thanks again, for the clues.

Gary




"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:%23bdC6W7%23GHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
> is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
> concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
> Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
> of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.
>
> Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
> protected. The customer wanted something he could just
> setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
> controller really didn't meet his needs.
>
> It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
> server and check the backup logs.
>
> "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>>
>> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
>> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
>> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>>
>>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup services
>>>> and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite storage.
>>>>
>>>> PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption and the
>>>> files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the encrypted
>>>> data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot would
>>>>> trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd just
>>>>> be begging for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>>>>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>>>>
>>>>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>>>>> Russell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi David,

That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
similar backup strategy for my own data.

Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
failure and the most cost effective.
I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.

PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
tape will fail, it's a question of when.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:ux98Dh7%23GHA.1752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>
>
> | Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
> | subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
> | when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
> | suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
> | can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.
> |
>
> Then they can afford a DAT, AIT, Travan or other, USB v2.0, SCSI or
> FireWire tape drive
>
> Personally, I backup 4.5GB onto DVDRW media in ~15 minutes. No issues yet
> and I have had to
> restore data one in a while. I use multiple DVRW discs and rotate them.
> I don't even have
> a business. I just care about "MY" data.
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

Hi David,

That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
similar backup strategy for my own data.

Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
failure and the most cost effective.
I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.

PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
tape will fail, it's a question of when.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:ux98Dh7%23GHA.1752@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com>
>
> | Maybe - but Optical disks must be manually created and are
> | subject to physical damage. I've also burned many disks that
> | when called on for recovery have issues like a CRC error. I
> | suppose needs vary, but for a business where a single billing
> | can exceed $20,000 - $40 a month is pretty cheap.
> |
>
> Then they can afford a DAT, AIT, Travan or other, USB v2.0, SCSI or
> FireWire tape drive
>
> Personally, I backup 4.5GB onto DVDRW media in ~15 minutes. No issues yet
> and I have had to
> restore data one in a while. I use multiple DVRW discs and rotate them.
> I don't even have
> a business. I just care about "MY" data.
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>

From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>

| Hi David,
|
| That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
| similar backup strategy for my own data.
|
| Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
| fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
| remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
| errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
| failure and the most cost effective.
| I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.
|
| PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
| guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
| tape will fail, it's a question of when.
|

I ended up having to stop using my DAT DDS3 SCSI drive when it started breaking tapes.
Before that I used SCSI Travan.

Clients *must* be educated in the area. I find it is easier to educate them on good backup
procedures then Safe Hex practices. LOL

The only time I can see using third party services is when the data is is just too large to
manage. Then you have to use a contracted service.

BTW: I still remember the days of using 40MB QIC tape drives using the floppy controller !
Now that there is USB v2.0 and FireWire, one is not relagated to SCSI.

PS: I wonder if there are PATA and/or SATA tape drives ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>

| Hi David,
|
| That works great because YOU are in control of the backup process. I use a
| similar backup strategy for my own data.
|
| Unfortunately when dealing with clients, most are clueless and you need a
| fail-safe method of recovery that is *not* dependent on the secretary
| remembering to rotate disks or remembering to call you if the backup reports
| errors or failure. Encrypted data stored offsite is the least prone to
| failure and the most cost effective.
| I can monitor the logs remotely so I know if there has been a failure.
|
| PS: Tape has a higher failure rate than DVD-rw in my experience. Ask most IT
| guys about tape failure and they will reply it isn't a question of if the
| tape will fail, it's a question of when.
|

I ended up having to stop using my DAT DDS3 SCSI drive when it started breaking tapes.
Before that I used SCSI Travan.

Clients *must* be educated in the area. I find it is easier to educate them on good backup
procedures then Safe Hex practices. LOL

The only time I can see using third party services is when the data is is just too large to
manage. Then you have to use a contracted service.

BTW: I still remember the days of using 40MB QIC tape drives using the floppy controller !
Now that there is USB v2.0 and FireWire, one is not relagated to SCSI.

PS: I wonder if there are PATA and/or SATA tape drives ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm

Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
rotate.

JMO

Pop


R. McCarty wrote:
> Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
> is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
> concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
> Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
> of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.
>
> Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
> protected. The customer wanted something he could just
> setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
> controller really didn't meet his needs.
>
> It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
> server and check the backup logs.
>
> "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>>
>> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
>> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
>> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>>
>>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup
>>>> services and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite
>>>> storage. PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption
>>>> and
>>>> the files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the
>>>> encrypted data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot
>>>>> would trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd
>>>>> just be begging for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
>>>>> temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
>>>>> Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do.
>>>>> -Bertrand Russell

Removable hard drives two of them, best if encrypted, are a much better
solution IMO. Then you pretty much know who has your data and what they
can/can't do to/with it and it's usually more convenient to plug in the
drive and go. Probably faster too when you consider the time that amount of
data could take to transit, espeically when uploading.
You keep one backup on an internal drive, the rest of the externals and
rotate.

JMO

Pop


R. McCarty wrote:
> Backup Solutions uses an encryption system and the data
> is stored in one of Iron Mountain's facilities. I'd be more
> concerned about a lost notebook than using this service for
> Server data backup. This isn't a bare metal recovery type
> of backup - just critical business data and Exchange Server.
>
> Besides the fact that Quickbooks data is itself password
> protected. The customer wanted something he could just
> setup once and be done with it. Streaming tape on a SCSI
> controller really didn't meet his needs.
>
> It's handy because I can periodically Remote Desktop to the
> server and check the backup logs.
>
> "Gary Walker" <twf@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:9Ua1h.24845$7I1.8306@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
>>
>> Perhaps this is not an issue with you, or it's in some way
>> circumvented to your satisfaction, but I would never
>> send sensitive financial data offsite via an ip connection.
>>
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:Or4P%23B7%23GHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Off site backups can be very handy for small business operations. I
>>> have a customer who uses Backup Solutions. Just recently, we had
>>> a QuickBooks data file issue. We pulled the latest backup from their
>>> system and was back on line in a just a few minutes. Costs less than
>>> $40 per month for 6 Gigabytes of storage.
>>>
>>> "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
>>> news:OLRCD56%23GHA.4356@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>>
>>>> On the contrary--there are quite a few reputable online backup
>>>> services and I recommend them to my business clients for offsite
>>>> storage. PS--any reputable company uses customer-controlled encryption
>>>> and
>>>> the files are encrypted before transfer. They couldn't read the
>>>> encrypted data on their servers if they wanted to.
>>>>
>>>> PPS--none of the companies I would trust are free <G>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Larry Samuels Associate Expert
>>>> MS-MVP (2001-2005)
>>>> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
>>>> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
>>>> Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
>>>> news:OcVA6u6%23GHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Sukhoi47 wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Mozy and I recommend as a professional and free online
>>>>>> backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> In these times of rampant identity theft, what kind of an idiot
>>>>> would trust the personal data to an on-line "storage" service? That'd
>>>>> just be begging for trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Chambers
>>>>>
>>>>> Help us help you:
>>>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>>>>
>>>>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
>>>>> temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin
>>>>> Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do.
>>>>> -Bertrand Russell

Yep
http://www.nextag.com/sata-tape-drive/search-html


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone- www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:e3j7U67%23GHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> From: "Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org>
> PS: I wonder if there are PATA and/or SATA tape drives ?
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>