I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in case
of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic as
experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this
disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however
they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate
drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it does not
even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
Thanks.

maybe the ol' reliable
command called
FDISK

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"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an external
>caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar drives. I
>need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use Disk Management
>as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in case of conversion to
>dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic as experience indicates it
>has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this disc is 500GB. The last disc
>I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however they have now updated the tool and
>it now knows that I do not have a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool
>to create a single volume, it does not even need to format the disc? Windows
>can do that.
> Thanks.
>

There is no FDISK in XP and I suspect any version that shipped with an
earlier version of XP would not be able to cope with a drive of this size.

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:%23pIVyrqOIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> maybe the ol' reliable
> command called
> FDISK
>
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> .
>
>
> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume,
>>it does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>> Thanks.
>>
>

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html


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M wrote:
> I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
> external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several
> similar drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not
> want to use Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving
> free space in case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to
> use Partition Magic as experience indicates it has difficulty with
> larger discs over 300GB, this disc is 500GB. The last disc I
> prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however they have now updated the
> tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate drive. Can anyone
> recommend a tool to create a single volume, it does not even need to
> format the disc? Windows can do that. Thanks.

have you thought about
the diskpart command?

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true



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"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:0sidnQ6WuNO--8HanZ2dnUVZ8uqdnZ2d@pipex.net...
> There is no FDISK in XP and I suspect any version that shipped with an earlier
> version of XP would not be able to cope with a drive of this size.
>
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:%23pIVyrqOIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> maybe the ol' reliable
>> command called
>> FDISK
>>
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>>
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>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
>> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use Disk
>>>Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in case of
>>>conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic as
>>>experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this
>>>disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however they
>>>have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate
>>>drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it does not
>>>even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>
>
>

"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
> Thanks.


M:
It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
presumably know how to use that utility.

Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling, is
it not? I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not* use
the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
Anna

On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:18:46 -0500, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:

>
>"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
>news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>>does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>> Thanks.
>
>
>M:
>It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
>presumably know how to use that utility.
>
>Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
>system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
>single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
>465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
>some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling, is
>it not?

If you consider almost 50 gigs trifling.

>I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not* use
>the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
>Anna
>

"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
> Thanks.
>

Partition Commander (vcom.com)
Dave

Wally wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:18:46 -0500, "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
>>news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>>>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>>>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>>>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>>>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>>>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>>>does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>M:
>>It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
>>presumably know how to use that utility.
>>
>>Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
>>system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
>>single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
>>465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
>>some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling, is
>>it not?
>
>
> If you consider almost 50 gigs trifling.

What on earth are you talking about? The Disk Manager will not reserve
that much space for the LDM database.

John

M wrote:

> I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
> external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
> drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
> Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in case
> of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic as
> experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this
> disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however
> they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate
> drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it does not
> even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
> Thanks.

The space reserved for the Logical Disk Manager (LDM) database is 8
megabytes, surely that is trivial, even more so on a 500GB disk, why
even bother with it?

John

"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
> Thanks.


M:
(I POSTED THE FOLLOWING YESTERDAY AS A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUERY, BUT IT
DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE APPEARED IN THE NEWSGROUP. SO JUST IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T
SEEN IT...)

It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
presumably know how to use that utility.

Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling, is
it not? I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not* use
the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
Anna

Anna

Your earlier post did appear but from my point of view two hours after
midnight yesterday i.e. today.

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Stourport, England
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Anna wrote:
> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>> external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several
>> similar drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not
>> want to use Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of
>> leaving free space in case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not
>> want to use Partition Magic as experience indicates it has
>> difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this disc is 500GB. The
>> last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however they have now
>> updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate
>> drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it
>> does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that. Thanks.
>
>
> M:
> (I POSTED THE FOLLOWING YESTERDAY AS A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUERY, BUT IT
> DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE APPEARED IN THE NEWSGROUP. SO JUST IN CASE YOU
> HAVEN'T SEEN IT...)
>
> It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility
> and presumably know how to use that utility.
>
> Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
> system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to
> create a single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same -
> probably about 465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP
> OS will set aside some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes,
> this amount is trifling, is it not? I really don't see any
> significant reason why you would *not* use the DM utility to create &
> format the desired partition. Anna

"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:%23JN22z0OIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have
>>a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume,
>>it does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>> Thanks.
>
>
> M:
> (I POSTED THE FOLLOWING YESTERDAY AS A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUERY, BUT IT
> DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE APPEARED IN THE NEWSGROUP. SO JUST IN CASE YOU
> HAVEN'T SEEN IT...)
>
> It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
> presumably know how to use that utility.
>
> Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
> system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
> single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
> 465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
> some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling,
> is
> it not? I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not* use
> the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
> Anna
>
>
>
To create a partition with unused space is untidy even if the space is
small. An external disc can never be dynamic so this seems a messy way to
do this. Having been able to do this with an older version of DiskWizard
which I no longer have is frustrating.

>> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
>> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in
>>>case of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic
>>>as experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB,
>>>this disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard
>>>however they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not
>>>have a Seagate drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single
>>>volume, it does not even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>>> Thanks.


> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
>> It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
>> presumably know how to use that utility.
>>
>> Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
>> system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
>> single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably
>> about
>> 465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
>> some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling,
>> is it not? I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not*
>> use
>> the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
>> Anna


"M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
news:OlOpjX3OIHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> To create a partition with unused space is untidy even if the space is
> small. An external disc can never be dynamic so this seems a messy way to
> do this. Having been able to do this with an older version of DiskWizard
> which I no longer have is frustrating.


M:
We'll give this one more shot and let it go at that...

I really can't imagine why you find the Disk Management process of
partitioning & formatting a HDD, regardless of the fact that it's an
external HDD, "untidy".

Using DM, the process is simple, straightforward, reasonably quick, and
effective. I see no need for using any third-party utility to accomplish
this task.
Anna

the issue the o.p. has
brought forward for
assistance seems to
be pretty clear:

Re: Prepare new drive without using Disk Management

the emphasis is on the
itty word that begins with
a "w"

a suggestion to the affect
would be helpful.
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"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
news:ufvO354OIHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
>>> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
>>> news:ORZEdgqOIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have just purchased a new Hitachi hard drive which is mounted in an
>>>>external caddy and connected by Firewire. I already have several similar
>>>>drives. I need to partition and format the drive. I do not want to use
>>>>Disk Management as it has the irritating habit of leaving free space in case
>>>>of conversion to dynamic disk. I do not want to use Partition Magic as
>>>>experience indicates it has difficulty with larger discs over 300GB, this
>>>>disc is 500GB. The last disc I prepared with Seagate DiscWizard however
>>>>they have now updated the tool and it now knows that I do not have a Seagate
>>>>drive. Can anyone recommend a tool to create a single volume, it does not
>>>>even need to format the disc? Windows can do that.
>>>> Thanks.
>
>
>> "Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
>>> It's apparent that you're familiar with XP's Disk Management utility and
>>> presumably know how to use that utility.
>>>
>>> Obviously you plan to use that Hitachi HDD as a secondary HDD in your
>>> system. That being so, there should be no problem in using DM to create a
>>> single partition on that drive and formatting (NTFS) same - probably about
>>> 465 GB (in binary terms). While it is true that the XP OS will set aside
>>> some of that disk space for "overhead" purposes, this amount is trifling, is
>>> it not? I really don't see any significant reason why you would *not* use
>>> the DM utility to create & format the desired partition.
>>> Anna
>
>
> "M" <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> wrote in message
> news:OlOpjX3OIHA.5860@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> To create a partition with unused space is untidy even if the space is small.
>> An external disc can never be dynamic so this seems a messy way to do this.
>> Having been able to do this with an older version of DiskWizard which I no
>> longer have is frustrating.
>
>
> M:
> We'll give this one more shot and let it go at that...
>
> I really can't imagine why you find the Disk Management process of
> partitioning & formatting a HDD, regardless of the fact that it's an external
> HDD, "untidy".
>
> Using DM, the process is simple, straightforward, reasonably quick, and
> effective. I see no need for using any third-party utility to accomplish this
> task.
> Anna
>