Hi Bert,
Can I leave System Restore on if I install ERUNT?

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:12:04 -0400, "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>Hi Eddy,
>
>This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
>
>While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the pain of
>restoring the registry.
>ERUNT - Registry Backup and Restore for Windows NT/2000/2003/XP
>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>
>I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power failure
>during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the case.
>
>You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>Virus and Spyware removal and prevention steps:
>http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html
>
>You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
>If you need help with this go to the following AumHa Forum and read the
>Announcement before posting.
>http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
>
>Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
>
>Are there any Norton applications installed?
>
>Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?

Have a good day,
RScotti

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My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible

Hi Bert,
Can I leave System Restore on if I install ERUNT?

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:12:04 -0400, "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>Hi Eddy,
>
>This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
>
>While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the pain of
>restoring the registry.
>ERUNT - Registry Backup and Restore for Windows NT/2000/2003/XP
>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>
>I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power failure
>during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the case.
>
>You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>Virus and Spyware removal and prevention steps:
>http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html
>
>You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
>If you need help with this go to the following AumHa Forum and read the
>Announcement before posting.
>http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
>
>Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
>
>Are there any Norton applications installed?
>
>Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?

Have a good day,
RScotti

remove "nospam" in order to email me.

My Specifications:
HP Windows XP MCE 2005
PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Western Digital External HD 500 GB
16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II compatible

Hi Eddy,

The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or perform a Clean
Boot and test SR.

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560

Or perform a repair install and test.
How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"Eddy" wrote
>> This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
> It certainly is. The first time it happened I assumed it must have been a
> corrupted restore point, so chose another restore point (several in fact)
> and the same thing happened every time. Flushing all restore points and
> starting again with a newly created restore point failed as well.
>
> What I don't really know is, is System restore failing to restore the
> registry when a restore point is chosen, or is it failing to back it up
> when a restore point is created.
>
>> While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the
>> pain of restoring the registry.
>
> I have done that now!
>
>> I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power
>> failure during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the
>> case.
>
> No, no power failures, lockups, or anything like that. No programs that
> might just interfere with SR were left running either.
>
>> You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>
> Done that with several different scanners (Ad-aware, Spybot, XoftSpy, AVG,
> AntiVir and the MS offerings).
>
>> You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
> Tried that. Nothing untoward in the HiJackThis log.
>
>> Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
> No, apart from MS Windows updates, and on HP update (see below).
>
>> Are there any Norton applications installed?
> No, nothing, never!
>
>> Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?
> Don't think I tried Safe Mode. Tried so many it's hard to remember...
>
> I originally used System Restore to get rid of an un-installable
> (HP/Compaq) update that I did not like. This is when I first found SR was
> not working. The PC is now working fine, and I am now a bit reluctant to
> attempt an unnecessary SR in case it screws the PC completely.
>
> Eddy.

Yes!

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"RScotti" wrote
> Hi Bert,
> Can I leave System Restore on if I install ERUNT?
>
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:12:04 -0400, "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi Eddy,
>>
>>This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
>>
>>While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the pain of
>>restoring the registry.
>>ERUNT - Registry Backup and Restore for Windows NT/2000/2003/XP
>>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>>
>>I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power failure
>>during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the case.
>>
>>You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>>Virus and Spyware removal and prevention steps:
>>http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html
>>
>>You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
>>If you need help with this go to the following AumHa Forum and read the
>>Announcement before posting.
>>http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
>>
>>Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
>>
>>Are there any Norton applications installed?
>>
>>Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>
> My Specifications:
> HP Windows XP MCE 2005
> PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
> Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
> Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
> Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
> Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
> Western Digital External HD 500 GB
> 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
> Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
> Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
> Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II
> compatible

Hi Eddy,

The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or perform a Clean
Boot and test SR.

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560

Or perform a repair install and test.
How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"Eddy" wrote
>> This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
> It certainly is. The first time it happened I assumed it must have been a
> corrupted restore point, so chose another restore point (several in fact)
> and the same thing happened every time. Flushing all restore points and
> starting again with a newly created restore point failed as well.
>
> What I don't really know is, is System restore failing to restore the
> registry when a restore point is chosen, or is it failing to back it up
> when a restore point is created.
>
>> While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the
>> pain of restoring the registry.
>
> I have done that now!
>
>> I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power
>> failure during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the
>> case.
>
> No, no power failures, lockups, or anything like that. No programs that
> might just interfere with SR were left running either.
>
>> You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>
> Done that with several different scanners (Ad-aware, Spybot, XoftSpy, AVG,
> AntiVir and the MS offerings).
>
>> You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
> Tried that. Nothing untoward in the HiJackThis log.
>
>> Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
> No, apart from MS Windows updates, and on HP update (see below).
>
>> Are there any Norton applications installed?
> No, nothing, never!
>
>> Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?
> Don't think I tried Safe Mode. Tried so many it's hard to remember...
>
> I originally used System Restore to get rid of an un-installable
> (HP/Compaq) update that I did not like. This is when I first found SR was
> not working. The PC is now working fine, and I am now a bit reluctant to
> attempt an unnecessary SR in case it screws the PC completely.
>
> Eddy.

Yes!

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"RScotti" wrote
> Hi Bert,
> Can I leave System Restore on if I install ERUNT?
>
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:12:04 -0400, "Bert Kinney" <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi Eddy,
>>
>>This is very odd, I have never heard of this happening before.
>>
>>While troubleshooting this you may want to install Erunt to ease the pain of
>>restoring the registry.
>>ERUNT - Registry Backup and Restore for Windows NT/2000/2003/XP
>>http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
>>
>>I would expect something like this to happen if there were a power failure
>>during the restore process. But this does not seem to be the case.
>>
>>You will want to make sure the system malware free also.
>>Virus and Spyware removal and prevention steps:
>>http://bertk.mvps.org/html/spyware.html
>>
>>You may want to create a HiJackThis and examine it.
>>If you need help with this go to the following AumHa Forum and read the
>>Announcement before posting.
>>http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30
>>
>>Has there been any new hardware or software installed recently?
>>
>>Are there any Norton applications installed?
>>
>>Will System Restore complete in Safe Mode?
>
> Have a good day,
> RScotti
>
> remove "nospam" in order to email me.
>
> My Specifications:
> HP Windows XP MCE 2005
> PentiumD 820 (S) DC 2.8 GHz
> Socket 775 Chipset Intel 945P
> Asus Motherboard Name: P5LP-LE
> Memory Installed 2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
> Hard drive 250 GB SATA 7200 rpm
> Western Digital External HD 500 GB
> 16X DVD(+/-)R/RW (+/-)R DL LightScribe drive
> Nvidia Video Graphics GeForce 7300LE 256 MB
> Sound/Audio Integrated High Definition audio
> Realtek ALC 882 chipset Supports up to 8 audio channels Dolby Pro Logic II
> compatible

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:45:07 -0400 Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

> Hi Eddy,
>
> The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or
> perform a Clean Boot and test SR.
>
> How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353
>
> How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434
>
> How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in
> Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560
>
> Or perform a repair install and test.
> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://bertk.mvps.org
> Member: http://dts-l.org

Thanks Bert, I will give those links next weekend when I have more time to
do some experimenting. Amazing just how long one can spend trying things
out, rebooting, trying something else, rebooting, etc...

Eddy.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:45:07 -0400 Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

> Hi Eddy,
>
> The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or
> perform a Clean Boot and test SR.
>
> How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353
>
> How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434
>
> How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in
> Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560
>
> Or perform a repair install and test.
> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964
>
> --
> Regards,
> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> http://bertk.mvps.org
> Member: http://dts-l.org

Thanks Bert, I will give those links next weekend when I have more time to
do some experimenting. Amazing just how long one can spend trying things
out, rebooting, trying something else, rebooting, etc...

Eddy.

"Eddy" wrote
>> The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or
>> perform a Clean Boot and test SR.
>>
>> How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353
>>
>> How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434
>>
>> How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in
>> Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560
>>
>> Or perform a repair install and test.
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>> How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://bertk.mvps.org
>> Member: http://dts-l.org
>
> Thanks Bert, I will give those links next weekend when I have more time to
> do some experimenting. Amazing just how long one can spend trying things
> out, rebooting, trying something else, rebooting, etc...
>
> Eddy.

Yes it is. Please keep us informed.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"Eddy" wrote
>> The next troubleshooting steps would be to test in Safe Mode, or
>> perform a Clean Boot and test SR.
>>
>> How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310353
>>
>> How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=316434
>>
>> How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in
>> Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;310560
>>
>> Or perform a repair install and test.
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install by Michael Stevens MS-MVP:
>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>> How to perform a repair installation of Windows XP if IE 7 is installed
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3b917964
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> http://bertk.mvps.org
>> Member: http://dts-l.org
>
> Thanks Bert, I will give those links next weekend when I have more time to
> do some experimenting. Amazing just how long one can spend trying things
> out, rebooting, trying something else, rebooting, etc...
>
> Eddy.

Yes it is. Please keep us informed.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org