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Old 01-04-2007, 02:57 AM
Frankster
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Re: Beware of IE7

> >Last I heard, MS was going to "push" it out via automatic updates as a
> >critical update.

>
> It'll be a "high priority update" rather than a "critical update":
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...s/default.mspx


Thanks for the clarification. However, it will still be pushed out via
automatic updates (if you have automatic updates turned on, of course)
because it is a "high priority" update. That is the "critical" point. :)

-Frank


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Old 01-04-2007, 02:57 AM
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Re: Beware of IE7

> >Last I heard, MS was going to "push" it out via automatic updates as a
> >critical update.

>
> It'll be a "high priority update" rather than a "critical update":
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...s/default.mspx


Thanks for the clarification. However, it will still be pushed out via
automatic updates (if you have automatic updates turned on, of course)
because it is a "high priority" update. That is the "critical" point. :)

-Frank


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Old 01-04-2007, 02:58 AM
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Re: Beware of IE7

>>>However, it will still be pushed out via automatic updates

Unless you install the IE7 Blocker Toolkit :-)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

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Re: Beware of IE7

>>>However, it will still be pushed out via automatic updates

Unless you install the IE7 Blocker Toolkit :-)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

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Old 01-04-2007, 02:58 AM
Lars-Erik Østerud
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Re: Beware of IE7

John Waller wrote:

> Unless you install the IE7 Blocker Toolkit :-)


Or just add this to you registry (shorter than that huge download,
that even requires genuiene validation as well). Just copy the rest of
this message and save it to "IE7 block install.reg" and "Merge" that:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Setup\7.0]
"DoNotAllowIE70"=dword:00000001
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Lars-Erik Østerud
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Re: Beware of IE7

John Waller wrote:

> Unless you install the IE7 Blocker Toolkit :-)


Or just add this to you registry (shorter than that huge download,
that even requires genuiene validation as well). Just copy the rest of
this message and save it to "IE7 block install.reg" and "Merge" that:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Setup\7.0]
"DoNotAllowIE70"=dword:00000001
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:45 AM
skip
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RE: Beware of IE7

I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto
updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the same
Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's ms'
way to track the software on your box that is not your's through purchase.
Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good thing
I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it turned
off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya my
next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of ie
and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and reliable
security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier ideas
from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the technology
that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked for
some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go


Knowledge is Power


"its_my_dime" wrote:

> At least for some (including me), IE 7 has not worked. See
> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general.
>
> This program clearly has more than its fair share of problems.
>
> The newsgroup has not been helpful in dealing with issues.
>
> The microsoft phone help number is so busy that they ask you to call back
> later.
>
> Most (but not all) have been able to uninstall it (through the control
> panel) and return to IE 6.
>
> While it may well work for you without any difficulty, be aware that this
> upgrade clearly needs a great deal more work and waiting may be the best
> course.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:45 AM
skip
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RE: Beware of IE7

I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto
updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the same
Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's ms'
way to track the software on your box that is not your's through purchase.
Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good thing
I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it turned
off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya my
next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of ie
and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and reliable
security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier ideas
from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the technology
that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked for
some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go


Knowledge is Power


"its_my_dime" wrote:

> At least for some (including me), IE 7 has not worked. See
> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general.
>
> This program clearly has more than its fair share of problems.
>
> The newsgroup has not been helpful in dealing with issues.
>
> The microsoft phone help number is so busy that they ask you to call back
> later.
>
> Most (but not all) have been able to uninstall it (through the control
> panel) and return to IE 6.
>
> While it may well work for you without any difficulty, be aware that this
> upgrade clearly needs a great deal more work and waiting may be the best
> course.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:45 AM
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Re: Beware of IE7

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Hash: SHA1

On 2006-11-22, skip <skip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto
> updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the same
> Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's ms'
> way to track the software on your box that is not your's through purchase.
> Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
> updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good thing
> I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it turned
> off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya my
> next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
> your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of ie
> and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and reliable
> security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier ideas
> from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the technology
> that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked for
> some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go
>


Other than the flame like nature of your post I can't agree with you more. I
use and support Microsoft products in my workplace because that is what we have
standardized on. However, in my personal life I've changed over to nearly 100%
Linux. I did this because I don't like the direction I see Microsoft going in.
Don't get me wrong, I used to swear by Microsoft up until Windows 2000. But
after sing IE7 and Vista (both in beta and RTM versions) I am glad I made the
change.

At least now the power is in my hands and no corporation has any say in what I
do with my PC. It is mine to do with as I please. And I have to say, there
isn't anything that I've wanted to do in Windows that I haven't found an
acceptable (and often excellent) OSS alternative. Well, except for games.
That's really the only reason I boot into Windows anymore.

Now, I can't expect everyone to make a jump to Linux. However, you can make
Windows much more tolerable by looking into things like OpenOffice, Firefox,
and Thunderbird.

I'll never put someone down for preferring Microsoft though. It's all about
choice. To each their own, but my choice in never to use another Microsoft
product in my home ever again.

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:45 AM
rignes
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Re: Beware of IE7

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On 2006-11-22, skip <skip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto
> updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the same
> Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's ms'
> way to track the software on your box that is not your's through purchase.
> Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
> updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good thing
> I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it turned
> off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya my
> next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
> your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of ie
> and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and reliable
> security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier ideas
> from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the technology
> that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked for
> some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go
>


Other than the flame like nature of your post I can't agree with you more. I
use and support Microsoft products in my workplace because that is what we have
standardized on. However, in my personal life I've changed over to nearly 100%
Linux. I did this because I don't like the direction I see Microsoft going in.
Don't get me wrong, I used to swear by Microsoft up until Windows 2000. But
after sing IE7 and Vista (both in beta and RTM versions) I am glad I made the
change.

At least now the power is in my hands and no corporation has any say in what I
do with my PC. It is mine to do with as I please. And I have to say, there
isn't anything that I've wanted to do in Windows that I haven't found an
acceptable (and often excellent) OSS alternative. Well, except for games.
That's really the only reason I boot into Windows anymore.

Now, I can't expect everyone to make a jump to Linux. However, you can make
Windows much more tolerable by looking into things like OpenOffice, Firefox,
and Thunderbird.

I'll never put someone down for preferring Microsoft though. It's all about
choice. To each their own, but my choice in never to use another Microsoft
product in my home ever again.

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:47 AM
Dora Smith
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Re: Beware of IE7 - couldn't agree more

Well, you know, I'm capable of a flame myself - and I also couldn't agree
more.

What is more, this great idea of Microsoft's to force this product on all of
us through automatic updates has forced the more savvy of us to turn off
automatic updates and not update Windows until Microsoft gets over it, if
Microsoft ever does.

I am becoming increasingly convinced that Microsoft staff have little brain
power. Probably not true of every Microsoft employee, but I've not
encountered exceptions in this newsgroup yet!
Noone has had either the intelligence or the respect to answer my question,
and if they want my respect, they'll give it.

Mind, maybe IE 7 isn't that bad, and I may well try it eventually when they
get the bugs out of it, IF we can still download and reinstall IE 6, but
that time is certainly not now, and putting it in automatic updates was
stupid and wrong.

Not that Microsoft cares enough about the likes of us to read our flames.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tiggernut24******.com
"rignes" <rignes@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:slrnem7gf2.e3b.rignes@samwise.reichertdom.com ...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 2006-11-22, skip <skip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows
>> auto
>> updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the
>> same
>> Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's
>> ms'
>> way to track the software on your box that is not your's through
>> purchase.
>> Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
>> updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good
>> thing
>> I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it
>> turned
>> off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya
>> my
>> next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
>> your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of
>> ie
>> and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and
>> reliable
>> security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier
>> ideas
>> from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the
>> technology
>> that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked
>> for
>> some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go
>>

>
> Other than the flame like nature of your post I can't agree with you more.
> I
> use and support Microsoft products in my workplace because that is what we
> have
> standardized on. However, in my personal life I've changed over to nearly
> 100%
> Linux. I did this because I don't like the direction I see Microsoft
> going in.
> Don't get me wrong, I used to swear by Microsoft up until Windows 2000.
> But
> after sing IE7 and Vista (both in beta and RTM versions) I am glad I made
> the
> change.
>
> At least now the power is in my hands and no corporation has any say in
> what I
> do with my PC. It is mine to do with as I please. And I have to say,
> there
> isn't anything that I've wanted to do in Windows that I haven't found an
> acceptable (and often excellent) OSS alternative. Well, except for games.
> That's really the only reason I boot into Windows anymore.
>
> Now, I can't expect everyone to make a jump to Linux. However, you can
> make
> Windows much more tolerable by looking into things like OpenOffice,
> Firefox,
> and Thunderbird.
>
> I'll never put someone down for preferring Microsoft though. It's all
> about
> choice. To each their own, but my choice in never to use another
> Microsoft
> product in my home ever again.
>
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:47 AM
Dora Smith
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Re: Beware of IE7 - couldn't agree more

Well, you know, I'm capable of a flame myself - and I also couldn't agree
more.

What is more, this great idea of Microsoft's to force this product on all of
us through automatic updates has forced the more savvy of us to turn off
automatic updates and not update Windows until Microsoft gets over it, if
Microsoft ever does.

I am becoming increasingly convinced that Microsoft staff have little brain
power. Probably not true of every Microsoft employee, but I've not
encountered exceptions in this newsgroup yet!
Noone has had either the intelligence or the respect to answer my question,
and if they want my respect, they'll give it.

Mind, maybe IE 7 isn't that bad, and I may well try it eventually when they
get the bugs out of it, IF we can still download and reinstall IE 6, but
that time is certainly not now, and putting it in automatic updates was
stupid and wrong.

Not that Microsoft cares enough about the likes of us to read our flames.

--
Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tiggernut24******.com
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 2006-11-22, skip <skip@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows
>> auto
>> updates went haywire. It wanted to keep downloading and installing the
>> same
>> Security update kb923980 either ie7 is a new piece of software or it's
>> ms'
>> way to track the software on your box that is not your's through
>> purchase.
>> Also once I uninstalled ie7 I had to set ie7 to be ignored in the auto
>> updates,I altered updates to just tell me of avalible updates, and good
>> thing
>> I did. I was notified of new updates today 11/21/06 and guess what it
>> turned
>> off my setting and tried to reinstaal itself. How bad is that. I tell ya
>> my
>> next system is going to be a MAC... THESE GUY's ARE GOOD at fuc%&^** with
>> your system with no prior consent. Keep doing research on this version of
>> ie
>> and security and you'll be amazed at what you find. Want a solid and
>> reliable
>> security capable browser use FIREFOX.. That's where Microsoft got thier
>> ideas
>> from. Check it out and see for yourself, it's free and so was the
>> technology
>> that's what microsoft does now use all the open content ideas that worked
>> for
>> some one else WHAT A SUC BUTT COMPANY go billy go
>>

>
> Other than the flame like nature of your post I can't agree with you more.
> I
> use and support Microsoft products in my workplace because that is what we
> have
> standardized on. However, in my personal life I've changed over to nearly
> 100%
> Linux. I did this because I don't like the direction I see Microsoft
> going in.
> Don't get me wrong, I used to swear by Microsoft up until Windows 2000.
> But
> after sing IE7 and Vista (both in beta and RTM versions) I am glad I made
> the
> change.
>
> At least now the power is in my hands and no corporation has any say in
> what I
> do with my PC. It is mine to do with as I please. And I have to say,
> there
> isn't anything that I've wanted to do in Windows that I haven't found an
> acceptable (and often excellent) OSS alternative. Well, except for games.
> That's really the only reason I boot into Windows anymore.
>
> Now, I can't expect everyone to make a jump to Linux. However, you can
> make
> Windows much more tolerable by looking into things like OpenOffice,
> Firefox,
> and Thunderbird.
>
> I'll never put someone down for preferring Microsoft though. It's all
> about
> choice. To each their own, but my choice in never to use another
> Microsoft
> product in my home ever again.
>
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:51 AM
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Re: Beware of IE7

=?Utf-8?B?c2tpcA==?= wrote:
>
> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto


Please state why, in full detail, why you want to be a no-fee BETA
tester for MS?

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Old 01-04-2007, 04:51 AM
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=?Utf-8?B?c2tpcA==?= wrote:
>
> I had to uninstalled this crap because once it was installed my windows auto


Please state why, in full detail, why you want to be a no-fee BETA
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Old 01-04-2007, 05:24 AM
Nontechnical Grandma
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RE: Beware of IE7

I have been round and round trying to get rid of IE 7 ("busy phone lines").
I cannot really afford the call and am glad now that I did not make it. Is
there not anything that can be done? I am furious. Does this mean that we
are stuck for now? A technical question for you as I am not technically
savy. If I should manage to uninstall it, how do I get a browser? Thanks.

"its_my_dime" wrote:

> At least for some (including me), IE 7 has not worked. See
> microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general.
>
> This program clearly has more than its fair share of problems.
>
> The newsgroup has not been helpful in dealing with issues.
>
> The microsoft phone help number is so busy that they ask you to call back
> later.
>
> Most (but not all) have been able to uninstall it (through the control
> panel) and return to IE 6.
>
> While it may well work for you without any difficulty, be aware that this
> upgrade clearly needs a great deal more work and waiting may be the best
> course.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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