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Old 10-08-2007, 06:40 AM
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Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
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Old 10-08-2007, 06:50 AM
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Re: Internet history

A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan, run
an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm

John

Becky wrote:

> Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
> the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
> b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
> I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?

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Old 10-08-2007, 07:20 AM
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Re: Internet history

Hi John!
I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?

"John John" wrote:

> A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan, run
> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
> http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>
> John
>
> Becky wrote:
>
> > Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
> > the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
> > b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
> > I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?

>

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Old 10-08-2007, 08:00 AM
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Re: Internet history

Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
Try the instructions here:
http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm

If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
for assistance.

John

Becky wrote:

> Hi John!
> I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan, run
>> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>>
>>John
>>
>>Becky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
>>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
>>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
>>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?

>>

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Old 10-08-2007, 09:10 AM
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Re: Internet history

I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing some
research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore Utility
as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan will
not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all restore
files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?

I really appreciate your help!

"John John" wrote:

> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
> Try the instructions here:
> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>
> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
> for assistance.
>
> John
>
> Becky wrote:
>
> > Hi John!
> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan, run
> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>Becky wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
> >>

>

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Old 10-08-2007, 10:30 AM
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RE: Internet history

Also, do you advise to delete temp files? If so, do I delete all, some, etc.?

"Becky" wrote:

> Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
> the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
> b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
> I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?

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Old 10-08-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Internet history

Becky,

Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you do
that just simply turn it back on.

George

"Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
>some
> research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
> Utility
> as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan
> will
> not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all restore
> files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
> problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
>
> I really appreciate your help!
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
>> Try the instructions here:
>> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>>
>> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
>> for assistance.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Becky wrote:
>>
>> > Hi John!
>> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>> >
>> > "John John" wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan,
>> >>run
>> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>> >>
>> >>John
>> >>
>> >>Becky wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned
>> >>>on, in
>> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
>> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
>> >>>blank page.
>> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>> >>

>>



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Old 10-08-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Internet history

Turning off system restore deletes all restore points. Don't you think it
advisable to try some early restore points before deleting them?
"George" <pop@email.com> wrote in message
news:eMm9wheCIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Becky,
>
> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you do
> that just simply turn it back on.
>
> George
>
> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>>I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
>>some
>> research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
>> Utility
>> as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan
>> will
>> not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all restore
>> files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
>> problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
>>
>> I really appreciate your help!
>>
>> "John John" wrote:
>>
>>> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
>>> Try the instructions here:
>>> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>>>
>>> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
>>> for assistance.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> Becky wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi John!
>>> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>>> >
>>> > "John John" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan,
>>> >>run
>>> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>>> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>>> >>
>>> >>John
>>> >>
>>> >>Becky wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned
>>> >>>on, in
>>> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
>>> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
>>> >>>blank page.
>>> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>>> >>
>>>

>
>



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Old 10-08-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: Internet history

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:

> Becky,
>
> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you do
> that just simply turn it back on.



I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
things:

1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
you restore to that restore point.

2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.

3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
boat is better than no boat at all.





> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
> >some
> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
> > Utility
> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan
> > will
> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all restore
> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
> >
> > I really appreciate your help!
> >
> > "John John" wrote:
> >
> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
> >> Try the instructions here:
> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
> >>
> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
> >> for assistance.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> Becky wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi John!
> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
> >> >
> >> > "John John" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan,
> >> >>run
> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
> >> >>
> >> >>John
> >> >>
> >> >>Becky wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned
> >> >>>on, in
> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
> >> >>>blank page.
> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
> >> >>
> >>

>


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Old 10-09-2007, 02:50 AM
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Re: Internet history

There is no single AV program that recognizes and deals properly with
all of those pests. When I did my quick search I could only find
information on the trojan on the McAfee site, that is why I suggested
that you try the online scan at the McAfee site, maybe it can find and
repair the infection.

I would not try going back to a restore point if it is much older than
one week. It may not fix anything at all and it may just bug up things
more. If you cannot resolve the problem with the McAfee online scan you
should post to one of the many groups or forums that deal with virus and
AV software, the experts in these groups may be able to help you remove
the trojan manually. The folks at places like TomCoyote or CastleCops
may be able to guide you or suggest other places where you can get more
help.

John

Becky wrote:
> I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing some
> research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore Utility
> as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan will
> not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all restore
> files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
> problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
>
> I really appreciate your help!
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
>>Try the instructions here:
>>http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>>
>>If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to them
>>for assistance.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Becky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi John!
>>>I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>>>
>>>"John John" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan, run
>>>> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>>>>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Becky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned on, in
>>>>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes up:
>>>>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a blank page.
>>>>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>>>>

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Old 10-09-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: Internet history


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:3kclg3tk1ldqjmvghnvltffqbquit6radj@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>
>> Becky,
>>
>> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
>> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you do
>> that just simply turn it back on.

>
>
> I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
> things:
>
> 1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
> you restore to that restore point.


Yes, you should try to guess which one is infected that will work.
>
> 2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
> just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
> restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.


How do you know which one is infected?

>
> 3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
> point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
> you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
> point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
> boat is better than no boat at all.


A boat with a leak eventually SINKS!

>
>
>
>
>
>> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
>> >some
>> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
>> > Utility
>> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan
>> > will
>> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all
>> > restore
>> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
>> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
>> >
>> > I really appreciate your help!
>> >
>> > "John John" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
>> >> Try the instructions here:
>> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>> >>
>> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to
>> >> them
>> >> for assistance.
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >> Becky wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi John!
>> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>> >> >
>> >> > "John John" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan,
>> >> >>run
>> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >>John
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Becky wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned
>> >> >>>on, in
>> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes
>> >> >>>up:
>> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
>> >> >>>blank page.
>> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>> >> >>
>> >>

>>

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



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Old 10-09-2007, 11:50 AM
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Re: Internet history

On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:27:27 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:3kclg3tk1ldqjmvghnvltffqbquit6radj@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Becky,
> >>
> >> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
> >> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you do
> >> that just simply turn it back on.

> >
> >
> > I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
> > things:
> >
> > 1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
> > you restore to that restore point.

>
> Yes, you should try to guess which one is infected that will work.
> >
> > 2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
> > just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
> > restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.

>
> How do you know which one is infected?



If you know that your virus problems started last Wednesday, the
restore points from Monday or before are safe to use.


>
> >
> > 3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
> > point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
> > you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
> > point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
> > boat is better than no boat at all.

>
> A boat with a leak eventually SINKS!



You miss the point entirely. Having a boat with a leak is better than
no boat at all. Having time to fix the leak is far better than
drowning immediately.

It is foolhardy to discard a restore point that *may* be able to help
you, especially when there's no danger in keeping it. There's plenty
of time to discard it later, *after* the underlying problem has been
solved.



> >> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
> >> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
> >> >some
> >> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
> >> > Utility
> >> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus scan
> >> > will
> >> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all
> >> > restore
> >> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
> >> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
> >> >
> >> > I really appreciate your help!
> >> >
> >> > "John John" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
> >> >> Try the instructions here:
> >> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to
> >> >> them
> >> >> for assistance.
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> Becky wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi John!
> >> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John John" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a trojan,
> >> >> >>run
> >> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
> >> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>John
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Becky wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is turned
> >> >> >>>on, in
> >> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes
> >> >> >>>up:
> >> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
> >> >> >>>blank page.
> >> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>


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Old 10-09-2007, 12:20 PM
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That's like cutting off your hand because of an infection on a finger.
Besides, boats with a big enough pump won't sink.
"George" <pop@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:3kclg3tk1ldqjmvghnvltffqbquit6radj@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Becky,
>>>
>>> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
>>> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you
>>> do
>>> that just simply turn it back on.

>>
>>
>> I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
>> things:
>>
>> 1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
>> you restore to that restore point.

>
> Yes, you should try to guess which one is infected that will work.
>>
>> 2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
>> just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
>> restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.

>
> How do you know which one is infected?
>
>>
>> 3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
>> point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
>> you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
>> point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
>> boat is better than no boat at all.

>
> A boat with a leak eventually SINKS!
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>>> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was doing
>>> >some
>>> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System Restore
>>> > Utility
>>> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus
>>> > scan
>>> > will
>>> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all
>>> > restore
>>> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of this
>>> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this problem?
>>> >
>>> > I really appreciate your help!
>>> >
>>> > "John John" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV vendor.
>>> >> Try the instructions here:
>>> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to
>>> >> them
>>> >> for assistance.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> Becky wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi John!
>>> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "John John" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a
>>> >> >>trojan,
>>> >> >>run
>>> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>>> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>John
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Becky wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is
>>> >> >>>turned
>>> >> >>>on, in
>>> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes
>>> >> >>>up:
>>> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get a
>>> >> >>>blank page.
>>> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
>



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Re: Internet history


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:g1mng3h7sutj6sob6nsej8nk0ub2nch33t@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:27:27 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:3kclg3tk1ldqjmvghnvltffqbquit6radj@4ax.com...
>> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Becky,
>> >>
>> >> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off Sytsem
>> >> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once you
>> >> do
>> >> that just simply turn it back on.
>> >
>> >
>> > I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
>> > things:
>> >
>> > 1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
>> > you restore to that restore point.

>>
>> Yes, you should try to guess which one is infected that will work.
>> >
>> > 2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
>> > just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
>> > restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.

>>
>> How do you know which one is infected?

>
>
> If you know that your virus problems started last Wednesday, the
> restore points from Monday or before are safe to use.
>
>
>>
>> >
>> > 3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
>> > point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
>> > you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
>> > point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
>> > boat is better than no boat at all.

>>
>> A boat with a leak eventually SINKS!

>
>
> You miss the point entirely. Having a boat with a leak is better than
> no boat at all. Having time to fix the leak is far better than
> drowning immediately.
>
> It is foolhardy to discard a restore point that *may* be able to help
> you, especially when there's no danger in keeping it. There's plenty
> of time to discard it later, *after* the underlying problem has been
> solved.
>
>
>
>> >> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was
>> >> >doing
>> >> >some
>> >> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System
>> >> > Restore
>> >> > Utility
>> >> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus
>> >> > scan
>> >> > will
>> >> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all
>> >> > restore
>> >> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of
>> >> > this
>> >> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this
>> >> > problem?
>> >> >
>> >> > I really appreciate your help!
>> >> >
>> >> > "John John" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV
>> >> >> vendor.
>> >> >> Try the instructions here:
>> >> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request to
>> >> >> them
>> >> >> for assistance.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Becky wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi John!
>> >> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John John" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a
>> >> >> >>trojan,
>> >> >> >>run
>> >> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>> >> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>John
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Becky wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is
>> >> >> >>>turned
>> >> >> >>>on, in
>> >> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that comes
>> >> >> >>>up:
>> >> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get
>> >> >> >>>a
>> >> >> >>>blank page.
>> >> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>>

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup


Ken,

I guess we will have to agree to disagree as if I had a virus on my system
and I knew it could be hiding in my system somewhere I will remove a few
restore points to do so.

I do understand your point as well!

Unknown,

If I knew my infection in my finger was going to cost me an arm or hand you
better bet I will cut it off!

George


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Old 10-10-2007, 09:40 AM
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Re: Internet history

But, you don't know if a week old backup is corrupt and you don't know if
the infection will cause you to lose your hand.
I.E. Don't act till you're sure. (don't be rash).
"George" <pop@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:g1mng3h7sutj6sob6nsej8nk0ub2nch33t@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:27:27 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>>> news:3kclg3tk1ldqjmvghnvltffqbquit6radj@4ax.com...
>>> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:18:48 -0400, "George" <pop@email.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Becky,
>>> >>
>>> >> Whenever you get infected with a bug you should always turn off
>>> >> Sytsem
>>> >> Restore to get rid of any bugs inside of those files and then once
>>> >> you do
>>> >> that just simply turn it back on.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I strongly disagree with that advice. For the future, note three
>>> > things:
>>> >
>>> > 1. An infection in a restore point is completely innocuous *unless*
>>> > you restore to that restore point.
>>>
>>> Yes, you should try to guess which one is infected that will work.
>>> >
>>> > 2. If you turn off System Restore, you lose *all* restore points, not
>>> > just the infected one, and it's possible that you may want or need to
>>> > restore to a restore point created before becoming infected.
>>>
>>> How do you know which one is infected?

>>
>>
>> If you know that your virus problems started last Wednesday, the
>> restore points from Monday or before are safe to use.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > 3. You may even sometimes need to restore to an infected restore
>>> > point. Although that's not normally desirable, it can at least give
>>> > you the opportunity to remove the infection; without the restore
>>> > point, you may have no options at all. As others have said, a leaky
>>> > boat is better than no boat at all.
>>>
>>> A boat with a leak eventually SINKS!

>>
>>
>> You miss the point entirely. Having a boat with a leak is better than
>> no boat at all. Having time to fix the leak is far better than
>> drowning immediately.
>>
>> It is foolhardy to discard a restore point that *may* be able to help
>> you, especially when there's no danger in keeping it. There's plenty
>> of time to discard it later, *after* the underlying problem has been
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>> >> "Becky" <Becky@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:562173ED-44CC-416F-B3A4-733ACE586A25@microsoft.com...
>>> >> >I ran Trendmicro Housecall and it did not detect a trojan. I was
>>> >> >doing
>>> >> >some
>>> >> > research and found that it is suggested to disable the System
>>> >> > Restore
>>> >> > Utility
>>> >> > as an infected file could be stored in the backup file and a virus
>>> >> > scan
>>> >> > will
>>> >> > not catch it. When I go to disable, a message comes up that all
>>> >> > restore
>>> >> > files will be deleted. This makes me nervous!! Can I get rid of
>>> >> > this
>>> >> > problem if I restore from a date prior to when I noticed this
>>> >> > problem?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I really appreciate your help!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "John John" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Try another AV program or try an online scan from another AV
>>> >> >> vendor.
>>> >> >> Try the instructions here:
>>> >> >> http://www.upgradenrepair.com/softwa...onlinescan.htm
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If you have a current Symantec/NAV subscription submit a request
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> them
>>> >> >> for assistance.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> John
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Becky wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hi John!
>>> >> >> > I am running Symantec and just did a live update. What's next?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "John John" wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>A quick search on the internet reveals this to be added by a
>>> >> >> >>trojan,
>>> >> >> >>run
>>> >> >> >> an up to date antivirus scan on your machine.
>>> >> >> >>http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_143361.htm
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>John
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>Becky wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>>Just a curiosity question....everyday when my computer is is
>>> >> >> >>>turned
>>> >> >> >>>on, in
>>> >> >> >>>the internet history there is an unusual site address that
>>> >> >> >>>comes
>>> >> >> >>>up:
>>> >> >> >>>b.whataboutadog (b.whataboutadog.com). If I click on it, I get
>>> >> >> >>>a
>>> >> >> >>>blank page.
>>> >> >> >>>I have no idea what this is. Can anyone tell me?
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>>

>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
> Ken,
>
> I guess we will have to agree to disagree as if I had a virus on my system
> and I knew it could be hiding in my system somewhere I will remove a few
> restore points to do so.
>
> I do understand your point as well!
>
> Unknown,
>
> If I knew my infection in my finger was going to cost me an arm or hand
> you better bet I will cut it off!
>
> George
>



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