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Old 08-29-2007, 04:40 AM
Jack Black
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Phone Dialer

I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
phone calls on this phone?
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Re: Phone Dialer

Jack Black <jackblack32003******.com> wrote:

>I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>phone calls on this phone?


I don't think so. The DSL modem has a phone line in one side of it,
and an ethernet (I think) line running to the computer. The computer
sees this as a normal network connection, and it has no idea that
there is a telephone line interfaced with it somewhere.

I suppose it's possible to send a "dial" command to the DSL modem
using the network line. I don't know of any DSL modem that works that
way, but then that's not my area of expertise ...

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Re: Phone Dialer

"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
> phone calls on this phone?



No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
wall jack.

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Old 08-31-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Phone Dialer

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:41:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>news:o0mad3tu3oj55m2iko94iemm8h7bcm3lpu@4ax.com.. .
>
>>I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>> phone calls on this phone?

>
>
>No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
>coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
>wall jack.



Thank you for your reply.

I have gone to a local computer shop and the fellow said he didn't
know if is was possible but said I could try it with a USB Internal
Dial up Modem and an ADSL splitter (1 or 2) ,which together cost about
US$ 25- US$ 30

The components to this jigsaw puzzle include:

#1 The above mention Dial up and splitter(s)
(not yet purchased)
#2 An Aztech adsl broadband modem.
#3 My Panasonsoc phone.
#4 A Lexmark X4270 all-in-one fax/printer.
#5 My Athlon 3000 computer.


If you think this is possible please advise what goes where? How would
I hook all this up?

I send very few faxes and receive even less, but I understand that the
fax and my broadband connedtion are somehow in compatible. What would
I need to do, the few times a month that I might want to sen a fax.

Thanks for help.

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Old 09-01-2007, 05:20 AM
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Re: Phone Dialer

"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
news:g41id3l6aaqs7sfva81p8a70o2eevsqed1@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:41:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>>"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>>news:o0mad3tu3oj55m2iko94iemm8h7bcm3lpu@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>>I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>>> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>>> phone calls on this phone?

>>
>>
>>No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
>>coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
>>wall jack.

>
>
> Thank you for your reply.



You're welcome. Glad to help.


> I have gone to a local computer shop and the fellow said he didn't
> know if is was possible but said I could try it with a USB Internal
> Dial up Modem and an ADSL splitter (1 or 2) ,


I've never heard of an internal USB modems. Internal modems are normally not
USB, and USB anythings are normally external. What you want is an ordinary
internal modems. If you want to also use it for faxing, make sure it's a fax
modem.

I'm not sure what he means by "an ASDL splitter," but you can't send the
ASDB portion of the phone line to the modem. If you don't have two phone
jacks available, all you need is a two-way jack splitter (there's probably
some official name for this, but I don't know what it is. they cost $2-3 or
so, and plug into the wall jack, making it into two jacks instead of just
one. Connect the ASDL modem to one side of that, and the new regular modem
to the other. You will also need a filter on the regular modem side, just as
you have on the other phones in the house.


> which together cost about
> US$ 25- US$ 30



Too much.You can buy a modem online for $10 or so, the splitter is another
$2-3 at a place like Walmarts, and the filter is another $2-3 at Radio
Shack. Should be $20 tops.


> The components to this jigsaw puzzle include:
>
> #1 The above mention Dial up and splitter(s)
> (not yet purchased)
> #2 An Aztech adsl broadband modem.
> #3 My Panasonsoc phone.
> #4 A Lexmark X4270 all-in-one fax/printer.
> #5 My Athlon 3000 computer.
>
>
> If you think this is possible please advise what goes where? How would
> I hook all this up?



See above.


> I send very few faxes and receive even less, but I understand that the
> fax and my broadband connedtion are somehow in compatible.



Correct. You can fax only over a dialup line.


> What would
> I need to do, the few times a month that I might want to sen a fax.



See above. Make sure the modem you buy is fax-capable, which might add a few
dollars to the price.

--
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Please reply to the newsgroup
> Thanks for help.
>



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Old 09-01-2007, 07:50 AM
Jack Black
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Re: Phone Dialer

Thanks again.

I'll go shopping next week and let you know how it turns out.


On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:11:22 -0700, "Ken Blake"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

>"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>news:g41id3l6aaqs7sfva81p8a70o2eevsqed1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:41:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
>> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>
>>>"Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>>>news:o0mad3tu3oj55m2iko94iemm8h7bcm3lpu@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>>I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>>>> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>>>> phone calls on this phone?
>>>
>>>
>>>No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
>>>coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
>>>wall jack.

>>
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.

>
>
>You're welcome. Glad to help.
>
>
>> I have gone to a local computer shop and the fellow said he didn't
>> know if is was possible but said I could try it with a USB Internal
>> Dial up Modem and an ADSL splitter (1 or 2) ,

>
>I've never heard of an internal USB modems. Internal modems are normally not
>USB, and USB anythings are normally external. What you want is an ordinary
>internal modems. If you want to also use it for faxing, make sure it's a fax
>modem.
>
>I'm not sure what he means by "an ASDL splitter," but you can't send the
>ASDB portion of the phone line to the modem. If you don't have two phone
>jacks available, all you need is a two-way jack splitter (there's probably
>some official name for this, but I don't know what it is. they cost $2-3 or
>so, and plug into the wall jack, making it into two jacks instead of just
>one. Connect the ASDL modem to one side of that, and the new regular modem
>to the other. You will also need a filter on the regular modem side, just as
>you have on the other phones in the house.
>
>
>> which together cost about
>> US$ 25- US$ 30

>
>
>Too much.You can buy a modem online for $10 or so, the splitter is another
>$2-3 at a place like Walmarts, and the filter is another $2-3 at Radio
>Shack. Should be $20 tops.
>
>
>> The components to this jigsaw puzzle include:
>>
>> #1 The above mention Dial up and splitter(s)
>> (not yet purchased)
>> #2 An Aztech adsl broadband modem.
>> #3 My Panasonsoc phone.
>> #4 A Lexmark X4270 all-in-one fax/printer.
>> #5 My Athlon 3000 computer.
>>
>>
>> If you think this is possible please advise what goes where? How would
>> I hook all this up?

>
>
>See above.
>
>
>> I send very few faxes and receive even less, but I understand that the
>> fax and my broadband connedtion are somehow in compatible.

>
>
>Correct. You can fax only over a dialup line.
>
>
>> What would
>> I need to do, the few times a month that I might want to sen a fax.

>
>
>See above. Make sure the modem you buy is fax-capable, which might add a few
>dollars to the price.


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Old 09-01-2007, 10:10 AM
Lem
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Re: Phone Dialer

Jack Black wrote:
> Thanks again.
>
> I'll go shopping next week and let you know how it turns out.
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:11:22 -0700, "Ken Blake"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>> "Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>> news:g41id3l6aaqs7sfva81p8a70o2eevsqed1@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:41:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
>>> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:o0mad3tu3oj55m2iko94iemm8h7bcm3lpu@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>>>>> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>>>>> phone calls on this phone?
>>>>
>>>> No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
>>>> coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
>>>> wall jack.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your reply.

>>
>> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>>
>>
>>> I have gone to a local computer shop and the fellow said he didn't
>>> know if is was possible but said I could try it with a USB Internal
>>> Dial up Modem and an ADSL splitter (1 or 2) ,

>> I've never heard of an internal USB modems. Internal modems are normally not
>> USB, and USB anythings are normally external. What you want is an ordinary
>> internal modems. If you want to also use it for faxing, make sure it's a fax
>> modem.
>>
>> I'm not sure what he means by "an ASDL splitter," but you can't send the
>> ASDB portion of the phone line to the modem. If you don't have two phone
>> jacks available, all you need is a two-way jack splitter (there's probably
>> some official name for this, but I don't know what it is. they cost $2-3 or
>> so, and plug into the wall jack, making it into two jacks instead of just
>> one. Connect the ASDL modem to one side of that, and the new regular modem
>> to the other. You will also need a filter on the regular modem side, just as
>> you have on the other phones in the house.
>>
>>
>>> which together cost about
>>> US$ 25- US$ 30

>>
>> Too much.You can buy a modem online for $10 or so, the splitter is another
>> $2-3 at a place like Walmarts, and the filter is another $2-3 at Radio
>> Shack. Should be $20 tops.
>>
>>
>>> The components to this jigsaw puzzle include:
>>>
>>> #1 The above mention Dial up and splitter(s)
>>> (not yet purchased)
>>> #2 An Aztech adsl broadband modem.
>>> #3 My Panasonsoc phone.
>>> #4 A Lexmark X4270 all-in-one fax/printer.
>>> #5 My Athlon 3000 computer.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you think this is possible please advise what goes where? How would
>>> I hook all this up?

>>
>> See above.
>>
>>
>>> I send very few faxes and receive even less, but I understand that the
>>> fax and my broadband connedtion are somehow in compatible.

>>
>> Correct. You can fax only over a dialup line.
>>
>>
>>> What would
>>> I need to do, the few times a month that I might want to sen a fax.

>>
>> See above. Make sure the modem you buy is fax-capable, which might add a few
>> dollars to the price.

>

One more thing ... as you will see if you browse through posts in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax, Windows XP Fax Services can be
very fussy. A common response to complaints about problems sending or
receiving faxes using this Windows XP feature is to make sure that the
modem is on what used to be called the Windows Hardware Compatibility
List. That "list," which is now subsumed by the "Windows Catalog"
appears to have (as near as I can tell) only ONE modem that is "designed
for Windows XP" -- the US Robotics Performance Pro - fax / modem. This
is not inexpensive.

If you buy an inexpensive fax modem today, it "probably" will work with
Windows XP Fax Services, but there are no guarantees. If you pay a bit
extra, you may find a fax modem bundled with some sort of "lite" version
of commercial fax software. In this case, I suggest trying to install
the Windows fax software first. If that works, stay with it. If not,
uninstall it and then install the s/w that came with the modem. Do not
have both fax apps installed at once, and for best results with Windows
XP fax services, try it before you install another fax app.

The FAXFAQ, which includes advice on how to install Win XP Fax Services,
is located here: http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/FAQFAX.htm

--
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To the moon and back with 64 Kbits of RAM and 512 Kbits of ROM.
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Phone Dialer

I will send very few faxes, Is it possible to somehow configure all
these items so that by unplugging something I could just send a fax
via the phone line direct from my Lexmark X4270 fax/printer? and then
reconnect my internet when I'm done?

Wouldn't I be able to avoid these fax modem complicationsthis way?

I really only want the extra modem so I can use the dialer in Windows
address book for my Panasonic phone.

I presume I could handle incoming faxes by some software program??

Thanks again






On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 13:04:37 -0400, Lem <lemp40********.com> wrote:

>Jack Black wrote:
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> I'll go shopping next week and let you know how it turns out.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:11:22 -0700, "Ken Blake"
>> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>
>>> "Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g41id3l6aaqs7sfva81p8a70o2eevsqed1@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:41:30 -0700, "Ken Blake"
>>>> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jack Black" <jackblack32003******.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:o0mad3tu3oj55m2iko94iemm8h7bcm3lpu@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Panasonic phone connected to my ADSL modem. Is it possible to
>>>>>> configure the XPWin phone dialer in the Address Book to make local
>>>>>> phone calls on this phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. If you want to do this, buy an inexpensive dial-up modem (which can
>>>>> coexist with the DSL modem) and connect it to a telephone and to a phone
>>>>> wall jack.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>>
>>> You're welcome. Glad to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have gone to a local computer shop and the fellow said he didn't
>>>> know if is was possible but said I could try it with a USB Internal
>>>> Dial up Modem and an ADSL splitter (1 or 2) ,
>>> I've never heard of an internal USB modems. Internal modems are normally not
>>> USB, and USB anythings are normally external. What you want is an ordinary
>>> internal modems. If you want to also use it for faxing, make sure it's a fax
>>> modem.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what he means by "an ASDL splitter," but you can't send the
>>> ASDB portion of the phone line to the modem. If you don't have two phone
>>> jacks available, all you need is a two-way jack splitter (there's probably
>>> some official name for this, but I don't know what it is. they cost $2-3 or
>>> so, and plug into the wall jack, making it into two jacks instead of just
>>> one. Connect the ASDL modem to one side of that, and the new regular modem
>>> to the other. You will also need a filter on the regular modem side, just as
>>> you have on the other phones in the house.
>>>
>>>
>>>> which together cost about
>>>> US$ 25- US$ 30
>>>
>>> Too much.You can buy a modem online for $10 or so, the splitter is another
>>> $2-3 at a place like Walmarts, and the filter is another $2-3 at Radio
>>> Shack. Should be $20 tops.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The components to this jigsaw puzzle include:
>>>>
>>>> #1 The above mention Dial up and splitter(s)
>>>> (not yet purchased)
>>>> #2 An Aztech adsl broadband modem.
>>>> #3 My Panasonsoc phone.
>>>> #4 A Lexmark X4270 all-in-one fax/printer.
>>>> #5 My Athlon 3000 computer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you think this is possible please advise what goes where? How would
>>>> I hook all this up?
>>>
>>> See above.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I send very few faxes and receive even less, but I understand that the
>>>> fax and my broadband connedtion are somehow in compatible.
>>>
>>> Correct. You can fax only over a dialup line.
>>>
>>>
>>>> What would
>>>> I need to do, the few times a month that I might want to sen a fax.
>>>
>>> See above. Make sure the modem you buy is fax-capable, which might add a few
>>> dollars to the price.

>>

>One more thing ... as you will see if you browse through posts in
>microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax, Windows XP Fax Services can be
>very fussy. A common response to complaints about problems sending or
>receiving faxes using this Windows XP feature is to make sure that the
>modem is on what used to be called the Windows Hardware Compatibility
>List. That "list," which is now subsumed by the "Windows Catalog"
>appears to have (as near as I can tell) only ONE modem that is "designed
>for Windows XP" -- the US Robotics Performance Pro - fax / modem. This
>is not inexpensive.
>
>If you buy an inexpensive fax modem today, it "probably" will work with
>Windows XP Fax Services, but there are no guarantees. If you pay a bit
>extra, you may find a fax modem bundled with some sort of "lite" version
>of commercial fax software. In this case, I suggest trying to install
>the Windows fax software first. If that works, stay with it. If not,
>uninstall it and then install the s/w that came with the modem. Do not
>have both fax apps installed at once, and for best results with Windows
>XP fax services, try it before you install another fax app.
>
>The FAXFAQ, which includes advice on how to install Win XP Fax Services,
> is located here: http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/FAQFAX.htm


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