Excuse me again for not knowing the "proper" jargon. May be I'll think
twice before asking for help here again..........I came here looking for
assistance, not for insults or condemnation.

"Gordon" wrote:

> "GREENHORN" <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:39A851D9-9C9C-45BC-84E8-BBFF56E78916@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you to the ones who offered actual advice. Sorry I was "shouting".
> > I
> > didn't know cap locks means shouting since this is the first time using a
> > "chat" area.
>
> This is not a "chat" area, what you are actually doing is accessing a global
> Usenet Newsgroup with a horrible web interface.
>
>
>

GREENHORN <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I came here looking for
>assistance, not for insults or condemnation.

It's free... you get what you pay for.

GREENHORN wrote:
> Excuse me again for not knowing the "proper" jargon. May be I'll think
> twice before asking for help here again..........I came here looking for
> assistance, not for insults or condemnation.
>
> "Gordon" wrote:
>
>> "GREENHORN" <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:39A851D9-9C9C-45BC-84E8-BBFF56E78916@microsoft.com...
>>> Thank you to the ones who offered actual advice. Sorry I was "shouting".
>>> I
>>> didn't know cap locks means shouting since this is the first time using a
>>> "chat" area.
>> This is not a "chat" area, what you are actually doing is accessing a global
>> Usenet Newsgroup with a horrible web interface.
>>
>>
>>

I think you need to be less thin-skinned but I can see why you were
unpleasantly surprised. I'll give you information about Usenet (these
newsgroups) and how best to access them (and what to include in a post)
but I'd like to suggest a really good web forum owned by MVP Patty
McDuffie. It is www.computerhaven.info and it is just for people like
you. All the people there are very kind and caring and want to help you.
Give it a try.

Here's my standard boilerplate about newsgroups:

Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you
learn to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows,
but you can use Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you
already have it. Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html - The Seven Don'ts of Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/index.html - further reading on
Usenet, including recommended reading for netiquette issues
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
explanation of newsgroups

Using Outlook Express as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx

How to Post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
working properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - multiposting vs. crossposting

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Malke, thank you for the information. I will keep it for future reference.
It is nice to know there are people out there willing to help us who are
not-so-computer savy. I just want to know the right way to do things so I
can educate myself, even if it is asking what some people believe are stupid
questions. You don't know unless you ask. Thanks again.


"Malke" wrote:

> GREENHORN wrote:
> > Excuse me again for not knowing the "proper" jargon. May be I'll think
> > twice before asking for help here again..........I came here looking for
> > assistance, not for insults or condemnation.
> >
> > "Gordon" wrote:
> >
> >> "GREENHORN" <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:39A851D9-9C9C-45BC-84E8-BBFF56E78916@microsoft.com...
> >>> Thank you to the ones who offered actual advice. Sorry I was "shouting".
> >>> I
> >>> didn't know cap locks means shouting since this is the first time using a
> >>> "chat" area.
> >> This is not a "chat" area, what you are actually doing is accessing a global
> >> Usenet Newsgroup with a horrible web interface.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> I think you need to be less thin-skinned but I can see why you were
> unpleasantly surprised. I'll give you information about Usenet (these
> newsgroups) and how best to access them (and what to include in a post)
> but I'd like to suggest a really good web forum owned by MVP Patty
> McDuffie. It is www.computerhaven.info and it is just for people like
> you. All the people there are very kind and caring and want to help you.
> Give it a try.
>
> Here's my standard boilerplate about newsgroups:
>
> Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
> really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you
> learn to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows,
> but you can use Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you
> already have it. Here are some links to information about newsgroups:
>
> About Usenet:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html - The Seven Don'ts of Usenet
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/index.html - further reading on
> Usenet, including recommended reading for netiquette issues
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
> explanation of newsgroups
>
> Using Outlook Express as Newsreader:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm
> http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
> Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express Newsreader
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx
>
> How to Post:
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
> microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
> working properly
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - multiposting vs. crossposting
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:14:32 GMT, Uncle Grumpy
<unclegrumpy@ameritech.net> wrote:

>GREENHORN <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>HAHA.......I KNOW HOW TO COPY AND MOVE FILE THAT ONE CREATES, BUT
>THESE FILES ARE IN THE OPERATING SYSTEMS DIRECTORIES SET UP IN THE
>HARD DRIVE. HOW DOES ONE ACCESS THE DIRECTORIES ON THE HARD DRIVE TO
>MOVE THE APPROPRIATE FILE?
>
>Try finding a DOS for Dummies book at the library.

Also, look for "CapsLock for Dummies".

There are some who enjoy making fun of the newbys, makes themselves feel
bigger, Try not to let those flapping gums deter you from seeking help.
and I also agree, it's best to not have a thin skin around here.

"GREENHORN" wrote:

> Malke, thank you for the information. I will keep it for future reference.
> It is nice to know there are people out there willing to help us who are
> not-so-computer savy. I just want to know the right way to do things so I
> can educate myself, even if it is asking what some people believe are stupid
> questions. You don't know unless you ask. Thanks again.
>
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > GREENHORN wrote:
> > > Excuse me again for not knowing the "proper" jargon. May be I'll think
> > > twice before asking for help here again..........I came here looking for
> > > assistance, not for insults or condemnation.
> > >
> > > "Gordon" wrote:
> > >
> > >> "GREENHORN" <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:39A851D9-9C9C-45BC-84E8-BBFF56E78916@microsoft.com...
> > >>> Thank you to the ones who offered actual advice. Sorry I was "shouting".
> > >>> I
> > >>> didn't know cap locks means shouting since this is the first time using a
> > >>> "chat" area.
> > >> This is not a "chat" area, what you are actually doing is accessing a global
> > >> Usenet Newsgroup with a horrible web interface.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > I think you need to be less thin-skinned but I can see why you were
> > unpleasantly surprised. I'll give you information about Usenet (these
> > newsgroups) and how best to access them (and what to include in a post)
> > but I'd like to suggest a really good web forum owned by MVP Patty
> > McDuffie. It is www.computerhaven.info and it is just for people like
> > you. All the people there are very kind and caring and want to help you.
> > Give it a try.
> >
> > Here's my standard boilerplate about newsgroups:
> >
> > Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
> > really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you
> > learn to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows,
> > but you can use Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you
> > already have it. Here are some links to information about newsgroups:
> >
> > About Usenet:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
> > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html - The Seven Don'ts of Usenet
> > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/index.html - further reading on
> > Usenet, including recommended reading for netiquette issues
> > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
> > explanation of newsgroups
> >
> > Using Outlook Express as Newsreader:
> > http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm
> > http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
> > Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express Newsreader
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx
> >
> > How to Post:
> > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
> > microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
> > working properly
> > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - multiposting vs. crossposting
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > Elephant Boy Computers
> > www.elephantboycomputers.com
> > "Don't Panic!"
> > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >

Malke, it is always so refreshing to read your cool, collected comments.
Please keep on teaching us.

Mary
"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:uQ6PSDr5HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> GREENHORN wrote:
>> Excuse me again for not knowing the "proper" jargon. May be I'll think
>> twice before asking for help here again..........I came here looking for
>> assistance, not for insults or condemnation.
>>
>> "Gordon" wrote:
>>
>>> "GREENHORN" <GREENHORN@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:39A851D9-9C9C-45BC-84E8-BBFF56E78916@microsoft.com...
>>>> Thank you to the ones who offered actual advice. Sorry I was
>>>> "shouting". I
>>>> didn't know cap locks means shouting since this is the first time using
>>>> a
>>>> "chat" area.
>>> This is not a "chat" area, what you are actually doing is accessing a
>>> global Usenet Newsgroup with a horrible web interface.
>>>
>>>
>
> I think you need to be less thin-skinned but I can see why you were
> unpleasantly surprised. I'll give you information about Usenet (these
> newsgroups) and how best to access them (and what to include in a post)
> but I'd like to suggest a really good web forum owned by MVP Patty
> McDuffie. It is www.computerhaven.info and it is just for people like you.
> All the people there are very kind and caring and want to help you. Give
> it a try.
>
> Here's my standard boilerplate about newsgroups:
>
> Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
> really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you
> learn to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows,
> but you can use Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you
> already have it. Here are some links to information about newsgroups:
>
> About Usenet:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html - The Seven Don'ts of
> Usenet
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/index.html - further reading on
> Usenet, including recommended reading for netiquette issues
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief
> explanation of newsgroups
>
> Using Outlook Express as Newsreader:
> http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm
> http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
> Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express Newsreader
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...roupsetup.mspx
>
> How to Post:
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
> microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is
> working properly
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - multiposting vs. crossposting
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User