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Old 07-25-2007, 01:20 PM
jimb11 via WindowsKB.com
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Regseeker

When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do a scan
with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if I do a
search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned the
registry.

Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
searches?

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Old 07-25-2007, 01:50 PM
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Re: Regseeker


"jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@uwe> wrote in message
news:75b72a56ee0b2@uwe...
> When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do a
> scan
> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if I
> do a
> search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
> registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned
> the
> registry.
>
> Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
> searches?
>
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>


This is really a question about RegSeeker, not about Windows,
hence you should check the RegSeeker FAQs. At the same time
you might ask yourself why you should bother with removing unused
registry entries. They require only a minute amount of disk space
and their effect on the performance of Windows is the same as
the effect of having a small text file located in some temp folder,
namely nil.

If you remain unconvinced, get your stopwatch and measure the
time it takes for Windows to start up, both before and after a RegSeeker
treatment. There will be no difference.


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Old 07-25-2007, 02:00 PM
Ron Badour
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Re: Regseeker

When you say reformat, do you mean you are formatting the hard drive
partition(s)? If so, when you reload the system, those items you mentioned
are probably being installed by the system disk you are using. I suspect,
however, that I don't understand what you are saying.

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"jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@uwe> wrote in message
news:75b72a56ee0b2@uwe...
> When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do a
> scan
> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if I
> do a
> search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
> registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned
> the
> registry.
>
> Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
> searches?
>
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:30 PM
Curt Christianson
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Re: Regseeker

Hi,

Before using Regseeker or any other Registry "cleaner" in the future, you
may want to consider this excellent discussion on the subject:

Discussion of Registry "Cleaners"
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


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"jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@uwe> wrote in message
news:75b72a56ee0b2@uwe...
| When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do a
scan
| with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if I
do a
| search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
| registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned
the
| registry.
|
| Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
| searches?
|
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| Message posted via WindowsKB.com
| http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums....owsxp/200707/1
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:50 PM
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Re: Regseeker

"jimb11" wrote in message news:75b72a56ee0b2@uwe...
> When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do
> a scan
> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if
> I do a
> search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in
> the
> registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I
> cleaned the
> registry.
>
> Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
> searches?


If you don't understand how to edit the registry itself or how to track
the interdependence of multiple keys in the registry to ensure one of
them is truly orphaned (and it is NOT used under a different boot
environment) then you should not be using an automated registry cleaner.
Registry cleaners should only be used to automate what you yourself
could do in the registry. If you don't know how to use an electric arc
welder then any welds you create with it are suspect.

I don't know RegSeeker. Does it show you what entries it considers
suspect and what action it will take BEFORE it takes that action? Does
it provide a backup for every time you have used it so you could back
out of those changes?

So just what are you trying to accomplish by deleting entries from the
registry? Most likely is that you don't know. Unless you are deleting
over 33MB of data from the registry to save 1 second, or less, of time
for Windows to load, just leave the orphaned entries in the registry.
They may not be orphaned at all.


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Old 07-25-2007, 07:20 PM
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Regseeker

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com"
<u25693@uwe> wrote:

> When I reformat my emachine



Why do you reformat it? Well-maintained computers should never need
reformatting.


> I take all the crap off of it and then do a scan
> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry.



I don't understand this at all. If you reformat and reinstall, you
have a fresh registry and there are *no* leftover entries.


> But if I do a
> search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
> registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned the
> registry.
>
> Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
> searches?




First, I strongly suggest you avoid using Regseeker, or any registry
cleaning program. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

As far as what it missed, and whether it's safe to delete them
manually, if you are very sure exactly what the entry in question is,
and that it isn't needed for something other than what you think it's
for, then yes it's safe. Because in practice, it's often very hard to
be sure, and because there is *no* advantage to deleting the unused
entries, I think it's far safer to leave them in place.


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Old 07-25-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: Regseeker

Do you understand what "format" means??
To put it simply........when you format you are erasing/ deleting /getting
rid of any and all informtaion on that hard drive.......it is EMPTY
If its all gone how can there be any "leftover" entries in the
registry......when the registry is no longer there????????????????
The registry gets recreated when you install XP.........or when you use the
Emachines Recovery CD/Partition and it installs XP and all of those programs
that the machine came with and you paid for.
You are the one letting the crap onto the machine..........Emachine made
money putting that crap into their installation routine......
Do a Google for CCLEANER................it stands for crapcleaner.Run it and
uninstall the crap.
peter
"jimb11 via WindowsKB.com" <u25693@uwe> wrote in message
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> When I reformat my emachine I take all the crap off of it and then do a
> scan
> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry. But if I
> do a
> search later for: Compuserve,Netscape,orICQ I still find entries in the
> registry. I don't understand why there are still entries after I cleaned
> the
> registry.
>
> Is it safe to delete the left over entries that I found when I did the
> searches?
>
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Old 07-25-2007, 09:10 PM
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com"
> <u25693@uwe> wrote:
>> I take all the crap off of it and then do a scan
>> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry.

>
>
> I don't understand this at all. If you reformat and reinstall, you
> have a fresh registry and there are *no* leftover entries.


Not really.

He's referring to all the junk programs that come along with a fresh
emachine-branded OEM "install." Junk like AOL, McAfee or Norton, etc.

So, after returning his emachines PC to its original
anywhere-but-prisitine state (using a recovery disc or recovery
partition method), he uninstalls all the junk he has no use for. And
being anal-retentive :-), he wants to also rid his registry of any
references to those programs.

Although I agree with you that almost always these orphanned entries
don't amount to a hill of beans, try telling that to an
obsessive/compulsive!


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Old 07-26-2007, 10:00 AM
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:03:44 -0400, "Daave"
<dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:14:46 GMT, "jimb11 via WindowsKB.com"
> > <u25693@uwe> wrote:
> >> I take all the crap off of it and then do a scan
> >> with regseeker to remove the left over entries in the registry.

> >
> >
> > I don't understand this at all. If you reformat and reinstall, you
> > have a fresh registry and there are *no* leftover entries.

>
> Not really.
>
> He's referring to all the junk programs that come along with a fresh
> emachine-branded OEM "install." Junk like AOL, McAfee or Norton, etc.



Well, I agree with you that that may be (or even probably is) what he
means, it's not what he said, and I don't like making assumptions
about what people mean, since that can often lead to giving them wrong
advice. So, even if you're right, I'd like to hear it from him.



> So, after returning his emachines PC to its original
> anywhere-but-prisitine state (using a recovery disc or recovery
> partition method), he uninstalls all the junk he has no use for. And
> being anal-retentive :-), he wants to also rid his registry of any
> references to those programs.
>
> Although I agree with you that almost always these orphanned entries
> don't amount to a hill of beans, try telling that to an
> obsessive/compulsive!
>


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