If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!

I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
have any caused me as much stress as Vista.

I was lucky to actually boot successfully one time out of ten. The PC
would lock at various stages even after logging in. And that was after
a fresh install with no third party drivers or software

I found it significantly slower than XP Pro and don't get me started
on the ridiculous security settings and warnings. It would suit users
with either little common sense or paranoia.

I hoped my PC would have made the experience of Vista a rewarding one
but it didn't. I ran the compatibility test prior to upgrade and the
only problem highlighted was with Nero burning software. After install
my PC was rated as 5.

Maybe wait for a SP (there has to be one) before you take the plunge.

I am now running XP Pro again and its perfect.

MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition
Intel Core2 Duo 6400
4gb Ram
Gainward 7600 GT
2 x 250 Western Digital Caviar 250gb HDs

Just curious, did you do a Fresh install or an Upgrade? I noticed you have
4gb so I wonder, did you use 32bit or 64bit version?

D.



"ukspaceman******.com" wrote:

> If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
> from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
>
> I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
> have any caused me as much stress as Vista.
>
> I was lucky to actually boot successfully one time out of ten. The PC
> would lock at various stages even after logging in. And that was after
> a fresh install with no third party drivers or software
>
> I found it significantly slower than XP Pro and don't get me started
> on the ridiculous security settings and warnings. It would suit users
> with either little common sense or paranoia.
>
> I hoped my PC would have made the experience of Vista a rewarding one
> but it didn't. I ran the compatibility test prior to upgrade and the
> only problem highlighted was with Nero burning software. After install
> my PC was rated as 5.
>
> Maybe wait for a SP (there has to be one) before you take the plunge.
>
> I am now running XP Pro again and its perfect.
>
> MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition
> Intel Core2 Duo 6400
> 4gb Ram
> Gainward 7600 GT
> 2 x 250 Western Digital Caviar 250gb HDs
>
>

<ukspaceman******.com> wrote
> If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
> from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
>
> I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
> have any caused me as much stress as Vista.
>
> I was lucky to actually boot successfully one time out of ten. The PC
> would lock at various stages even after logging in. And that was after
> a fresh install with no third party drivers or software
>
> I found it significantly slower than XP Pro and don't get me started
> on the ridiculous security settings and warnings. It would suit users
> with either little common sense or paranoia.
>
> I hoped my PC would have made the experience of Vista a rewarding one
> but it didn't. I ran the compatibility test prior to upgrade and the
> only problem highlighted was with Nero burning software. After install
> my PC was rated as 5.
>
> Maybe wait for a SP (there has to be one) before you take the plunge.
>
> I am now running XP Pro again and its perfect.
>
> MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition
> Intel Core2 Duo 6400
> 4gb Ram
> Gainward 7600 GT
> 2 x 250 Western Digital Caviar 250gb HDs

My experience has been opposite to yours. I have been running Vista
Ultimate RTM since last November with very few issues on this nearly 5 year
old system. Vista runs well on the right right hardware with the right
BIOS, drivers and software. I don't know if you did a clean install or an
upgrade but in many instances a clean install is preferred. You need to
research all the hardware and software for Vista compatibility. Sorry you
didn't have a good experience with it, but that doesn't mean others have
not.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Rock, I agree with you except for the fact that he mentions "I ran the
compatibility test prior to upgrade and the only problem highlighted was with
Nero burning software".... so, technically he "researched" for potential
software and hardware issues. At best, he is suffering a faulty Upgrade
Advisor (sic) rather than Vista in itself...

About the clean install versus upgrade (btw, he mention he did a fresh
install), I wonder how much is Microsoft to blame not to make a better
upgrade process.


"Rock" wrote:

> <ukspaceman******.com> wrote
> > If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
> > from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
> >
> > I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
> > have any caused me as much stress as Vista.
> >
> > I was lucky to actually boot successfully one time out of ten. The PC
> > would lock at various stages even after logging in. And that was after
> > a fresh install with no third party drivers or software
> >
> > I found it significantly slower than XP Pro and don't get me started
> > on the ridiculous security settings and warnings. It would suit users
> > with either little common sense or paranoia.
> >
> > I hoped my PC would have made the experience of Vista a rewarding one
> > but it didn't. I ran the compatibility test prior to upgrade and the
> > only problem highlighted was with Nero burning software. After install
> > my PC was rated as 5.
> >
> > Maybe wait for a SP (there has to be one) before you take the plunge.
> >
> > I am now running XP Pro again and its perfect.
> >
> > MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition
> > Intel Core2 Duo 6400
> > 4gb Ram
> > Gainward 7600 GT
> > 2 x 250 Western Digital Caviar 250gb HDs
>
> My experience has been opposite to yours. I have been running Vista
> Ultimate RTM since last November with very few issues on this nearly 5 year
> old system. Vista runs well on the right right hardware with the right
> BIOS, drivers and software. I don't know if you did a clean install or an
> upgrade but in many instances a clean install is preferred. You need to
> research all the hardware and software for Vista compatibility. Sorry you
> didn't have a good experience with it, but that doesn't mean others have
> not.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>

ukspaceman******.com wrote:
>
> If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
> from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
>
> I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
> have any caused me as much stress as Vista.

Aways wait until the second version of any MS OS to be sold before you
buy it.


--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Plato wrote:
> ukspaceman******.com wrote:
>> If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
>> from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
>>
>> I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
>> have any caused me as much stress as Vista.
>
> Aways wait until the second version of any MS OS to be sold before you
> buy it.
>
>
I worked in banking for 35 years. From the start of our use of computers
(1962 or 1963) our rule was "Never buy release 1 of anything". This was
based on knowledge gained from others. I have followed that policy in my
home computing, except for cheap, simple applications.
Allen

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:49:36 -0500, Allen <allen@nothere.net> wrote:

> I worked in banking for 35 years. From the start of our use of computers
> (1962 or 1963) our rule was "Never buy release 1 of anything". This was
> based on knowledge gained from others. I have followed that policy in my
> home computing, except for cheap, simple applications.


Among the several reasons I disagree with that philosophy is that the
name a product gets (including its release number) is a marketing
decision, not a technical one. As one example, when the successor to
Windows 95 came out, Microsoft elected to call it Windows 98, rather
than Windows 95 release 2, because they thought it would sell better
with that name.

Your policy would say don't buy it if they had called it Windows 98
release 1, but do buy it if they had called it Windows 95, release 2,
even though it would have been exactly the same product.

More recent examples are Windows 2000, which could have been called
Windows NT release 5 (and actually was called that under the hood),
Windows XP, which could have been called NT 5.1 or Windows 2000,
release 2, and Windows Vista, which could have been called NT 6.0,
Windows 2000, release 3, or Windows XP release 2.

The decision as to whether to buy a new product should be based on
careful evaluations of the product itself, not on its name.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Allen wrote:
>
> >> If I could give you one piece of advice if you are planning to migrate
> >> from Windows XP to Vista...........DON'T !!!!
> >>
> >> I have run all of Microsoft's OS and even a couple of Linux. Never
> >> have any caused me as much stress as Vista.
> >
> > Aways wait until the second version of any MS OS to be sold before you
> > buy it.
> >
> I worked in banking for 35 years. From the start of our use of computers
> (1962 or 1963) our rule was "Never buy release 1 of anything". This was
> based on knowledge gained from others. I have followed that policy in my
> home computing, except for cheap, simple applications.

Agreed. dos6.0, win3.0, win95 original, win98 orginal, XP original.
Vista original. Wait until the second edition of any MS OS to put it on.
Way less trouble.

"DRod" <DRod@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED22A873-4E56-4D42-AE8A-A09D0CEB1A4C@microsoft.com...
> Rock, I agree with you except for the fact that he mentions "I ran the
> compatibility test prior to upgrade and the only problem highlighted was
> with
> Nero burning software".... so, technically he "researched" for potential
> software and hardware issues. At best, he is suffering a faulty Upgrade
> Advisor (sic) rather than Vista in itself...
>
> About the clean install versus upgrade (btw, he mention he did a fresh
> install), I wonder how much is Microsoft to blame not to make a better
> upgrade process.


If the only thing done to research the upgrade is to run the advisor, that's
nowhere near enough. By it's very name it is only advice. It is not fool
proof, nor always accurate or complete. For best results in an upgrade you
have to check on the hardware and software manufacturer's web sites, try to
find others who have tried the update on the same hardware, remove all
unnecessary hardware and software, anything that could possibly be
problematic should be uninstalled. The underlying system must be running
well and clean of malware.

There are so many variables and so many different possible system
configurations for hardware and software, there is no way any company can
make the upgrade process seamless and foolproof. Migrating to a new OS is a
major issue. That's one reason I suggest a clean install for moving to
Vista. By all means do the research and try the upgrade. If it works,
fine, but be prepared with a system image of the XP system so that can be
restored if needed, and do a clean install if the upgrade doesn't work.

For a clean install to work ok there must be Vista compatible drivers and a
BIOS that works with Vista. Those have to be supplied by the hardware
manufacturers.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]