Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having problems
when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make a
different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted but
when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?

Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is showing
as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb I
am clueless any help would be appreciative

I wouldn't be concerned with the fans, when the system is in standby it's
developing less heat, so the fans slow down, as work increases the heat also
increases.
since you have restored the system to before the updates, try downloading
the updates one at a time to isolate which one is causing the issue, (I know
it's a pain, but it's the only way to isolate which one is causing the
problem)

"stockportrico" wrote:

> Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having problems
> when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make a
> different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted but
> when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
> updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
>
> Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
> in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is showing
> as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb I
> am clueless any help would be appreciative

Cheers mate!

I thought the problems only started when I put the RAM in so I took it out
and the sytem is working fine the motherboard booklet says the ram is
compatable so that leaves me with another option NEW PSU my PSU at the moment
is knocking out 430w I am going to get one with 650w see if that works as I
have 3 sata drives and 3pci slots full so it could be a PSU problem so anyway
THANKS

"sgopus" wrote:

> I wouldn't be concerned with the fans, when the system is in standby it's
> developing less heat, so the fans slow down, as work increases the heat also
> increases.
> since you have restored the system to before the updates, try downloading
> the updates one at a time to isolate which one is causing the issue, (I know
> it's a pain, but it's the only way to isolate which one is causing the
> problem)
>
> "stockportrico" wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having problems
> > when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> > crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make a
> > different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted but
> > when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
> > updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
> >
> > Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
> > in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is showing
> > as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb I
> > am clueless any help would be appreciative

"stockportrico" <stockportrico@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0CD8850F-EF59-4879-82D3-02EAED5E338B@microsoft.com...
> Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having
> problems
> when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make
> a
> different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted
> but
> when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
> updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?

What exactly do you mean that the system crashes?


> Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
> in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is
> showing
> as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb
> I
> am clueless any help would be appreciative

That's actually not unusual. This may help explain it.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=888137

HTH
-pk

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "stockportrico" <stockportrico@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CD8850F-EF59-4879-82D3-02EAED5E338B@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having
> > problems
> > when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> > crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make
> > a
> > different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted
> > but
> > when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
> > updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
>
> What exactly do you mean that the system crashes?
>
>
> > Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
> > in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is
> > showing
> > as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb
> > I
> > am clueless any help would be appreciative
>
> That's actually not unusual. This may help explain it.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=888137
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>

Cheers matey!

I think i will go and get a 650w PSU tomorrow for £22 not bad eh

Cheers for all your help in this matter

Stockportrico

"Patrick Keenan" wrote:

> "stockportrico" <stockportrico@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CD8850F-EF59-4879-82D3-02EAED5E338B@microsoft.com...
> > Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having
> > problems
> > when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> > crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make
> > a
> > different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get restarted
> > but
> > when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
> > updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
>
> What exactly do you mean that the system crashes?
>
>
> > Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
> > in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is
> > showing
> > as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb
> > I
> > am clueless any help would be appreciative
>
> That's actually not unusual. This may help explain it.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=888137
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>

On 19 Jun, 00:22, stockportrico
<stockportr...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Cheers matey!
>
> I think i will go and get a 650w PSU tomorrow for £22 not bad eh
>
> Cheers for all your help in this matter
>
> Stockportrico

IF you're getting a PSU, then get a good PSU
PSUs are expensive. Antec is a good make. A cheaper good make is FSP.

Download speedfan.
Look at the PSU Voltages in Speedfan (I think speedfan displays them).

go to www.google.com/groups
you'd be able to find a more appropriate newsgroup for your hardware
questions

"stockportrico" wrote
> Cheers mate!
>
> I thought the problems only started when I put the RAM in so I took it out
> and the sytem is working fine the motherboard booklet says the ram is
> compatable so that leaves me with another option NEW PSU my PSU at the
> moment
> is knocking out 430w I am going to get one with 650w see if that works as
> I
> have 3 sata drives and 3pci slots full so it could be a PSU problem so
> anyway
> THANKS
>
> "sgopus" wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't be concerned with the fans, when the system is in standby it's
>> developing less heat, so the fans slow down, as work increases the heat
>> also
>> increases.
>> since you have restored the system to before the updates, try downloading
>> the updates one at a time to isolate which one is causing the issue, (I
>> know
>> it's a pain, but it's the only way to isolate which one is causing the
>> problem)
>>
>> "stockportrico" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having
>> > problems
>> > when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
>> > crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they
>> > make a
>> > different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get
>> > restarted but
>> > when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
>> > updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
>> >
>> > Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb
>> > RAM
>> > in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is
>> > showing
>> > as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing
>> > 4gb I
>> > am clueless any help would be appreciative

XP is sensitive to mismatched RAM. Just because the booklet says it's
compatible doesn't mean the two sets play well together. Have you run it
with just the new RAM? Also you could run a couple of these memory testing
utilities. They run from a bootable floppy or CD. Run at least 2 at each
one for 24hrs or so. Test each set of two and with all the memory together.

For windows updates try installing a limited number at a time, no more than
5, that makes it easier to spot which one is the problem, if in fact it is
an update that's the problem.

I don't see how adding two sticks of RAM could be related to a PSU problem.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"stockportrico" wrote
> Cheers mate!
>
> I thought the problems only started when I put the RAM in so I took it out
> and the sytem is working fine the motherboard booklet says the ram is
> compatable so that leaves me with another option NEW PSU my PSU at the
> moment
> is knocking out 430w I am going to get one with 650w see if that works as
> I
> have 3 sata drives and 3pci slots full so it could be a PSU problem so
> anyway
> THANKS
>
> "sgopus" wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't be concerned with the fans, when the system is in standby it's
>> developing less heat, so the fans slow down, as work increases the heat
>> also
>> increases.
>> since you have restored the system to before the updates, try downloading
>> the updates one at a time to isolate which one is causing the issue, (I
>> know
>> it's a pain, but it's the only way to isolate which one is causing the
>> problem)
>>
>> "stockportrico" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having
>> > problems
>> > when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
>> > crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they
>> > make a
>> > different noise - it seams that the fans slow down) then I get
>> > restarted but
>> > when I go to safe mode and restore to the point before I installed the
>> > updates the system is working fine. is there anything i am doing wrong?
>> >
>> > Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb
>> > RAM
>> > in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is
>> > showing
>> > as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing
>> > 4gb I
>> > am clueless any help would be appreciative


Sorry, forgot to include the links:
Memtest86+
http://www.memtest.org/

Windows Memory Diagnostic
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp

DocMemory Memory Diagnostic
http://www.simmtester.com/page/produ...c/download.asp

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

=?Utf-8?B?c3RvY2twb3J0cmljbw==?= wrote:
>
> Hi, I have bought a copy of windows xp home edditon OEM I am having problems
> when I download all the 86 updates that are available to me my computer
> crashes all the time I can hear the fans struggle a little (well they make a

http://www.bootdisk.com/xptop20.htm#4

--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote:


>XP is sensitive to mismatched RAM.

I doubt that, but your hardware may very well be.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

stockportrico <stockportrico@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Also I have recently added 2gb RAM in to my computer I already had 2gb RAM
>in it is dual channel and when I am in (SYSTEM) on my computer it is showing
>as 3.5GB but when I load Vista from my other hard drive it is showing 4gb I
>am clueless any help would be appreciative

You're only seeing 3.5GB in WinXP because some of the 4GB address
space must be used for video RAM, BIOS, etc. See
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt/RAM.html

The fact that you're seeing all 4GB in Vista surprises me. I didn't
think it would do that, but then there are lots of things I didn't
know about Vista. Is it possible that you have 64-bit hardware, 32-bit
XP and 64-bit Vista?

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

"Tim Slattery" wrote
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>
>>XP is sensitive to mismatched RAM.
>
> I doubt that, but your hardware may very well be.

Actually it is Tim. Vista seems to be even more sensitive to RAM issues.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]