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Old 06-12-2007, 12:10 AM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:

>Streaming wrote:
>> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>> news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com...
>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates.

>
>False. Install the SP2 first and then get the updates. I've done it on
>dozens of computers with outstanding results. Even though this is from
>an MS site, SP2 includes all the updates from the release of SP1 to the
>release of SP2 so I don't understand their guidance.
>
>
> Go to the
>>> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>> priority updates listed."

>
>You should *never* use Express Install unless you want WGA/N, IE7 and
>other flawed crap.
>
>Alias


Thanks, that proved sound advice. A little after posting I came across
a non-MS thread that effectively said the same, i.e. SP2 already
includes all SP1 updates. So I'm glad I ignored the MS article!

I also agree entirely with you about Custom v Express. Although in
this instance the only exception we made was to exclude IE7. (Last
time WU inadvertently installed it on her PC, it gave a variety of
problems, and no apparent benefits over IE6.)

So all that SP2 upgrade part of the exercise went OK. But it didn't
fix the issue that I mentioned at the outset. When run on the new PC
the Wizard refused to recognise the compressed files it had made on
the old PC. (Something like "Location contains no valid files...").

I tried this using both an external HD and a 1 GB memory stick. I
tried Files & Settings and then just on the Settings Only option. No
joy with any of these.

I'm pressing on manually now (just cracked the Outlook Express bit,
for example), but for future reference and academic interest can
anyone suggest why this failed please?

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:20 AM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

"WhzzKdd" <frack_this@email_is.invalid> wrote:

>"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com.. .
>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>
>> I used
>> the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>> settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>> I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>> on SP2.

>
>I believe you are correct. And it may not be just the SP2, but there is a
>later update for FAST that allows compatibility between 32 bit and 64 bit
>Windows. If that was installed, you'll have to have it back on the PC before
>you can access the data. BUT try the SP2 FAST first before adding that
>latest update.


Thanks for the various helpful follow-ups.

WhzzKdd: as you may have seen from my reply just now to Alias, I had
no joy with FAST (thanks for the acronym!) and am keen to get to the
bottom of why. Not sure I grasp this 32/64 distinction. Didn't even
know there *was* a '64 bit Windows'. When would I encounter that, or
want it? In this case, I used her 4-year old XP Home CD, then used the
266 MB SP2 WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (which I downloaded on my
own PC).

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:30 AM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:

>"WhzzKdd" <frack_this@email_is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com. ..
>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>
>>> I used
>>> the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>>> settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>>> I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>>> on SP2.

>>
>>I believe you are correct. And it may not be just the SP2, but there is a
>>later update for FAST that allows compatibility between 32 bit and 64 bit
>>Windows. If that was installed, you'll have to have it back on the PC before
>>you can access the data. BUT try the SP2 FAST first before adding that
>>latest update.

>
>Thanks for the various helpful follow-ups.
>
>WhzzKdd: as you may have seen from my reply just now to Alias, I had
>no joy with FAST (thanks for the acronym!) and am keen to get to the
>bottom of why. Not sure I grasp this 32/64 distinction. Didn't even
>know there *was* a '64 bit Windows'. When would I encounter that, or
>want it? In this case, I used her 4-year old XP Home CD, then used the
>266 MB SP2 WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (which I downloaded on my
>own PC).


For clarification, guess I should paste this here from my cross-post:
---------
Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:

>Streaming wrote:
>> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>> news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com...
>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates.

>
>False. Install the SP2 first and then get the updates. I've done it on
>dozens of computers with outstanding results. Even though this is from
>an MS site, SP2 includes all the updates from the release of SP1 to the
>release of SP2 so I don't understand their guidance.
>
>
> Go to the
>>> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>> priority updates listed."

>
>You should *never* use Express Install unless you want WGA/N, IE7 and
>other flawed crap.
>
>Alias


Thanks, that proved sound advice. A little after posting I came across
a non-MS thread that effectively said the same, i.e. SP2 already
includes all SP1 updates. So I'm glad I ignored the MS article!

I also agree entirely with you about Custom v Express. Although in
this instance the only exception we made was to exclude IE7. (Last
time WU inadvertently installed it on her PC, it gave a variety of
problems, and no apparent benefits over IE6.)

So all that SP2 upgrade part of the exercise went OK. But it didn't
fix the issue that I mentioned at the outset. When run on the new PC
the Wizard refused to recognise the compressed files it had made on
the old PC. (Something like "Location contains no valid files...").

I tried this using both an external HD and a 1 GB memory stick. I
tried Files & Settings and then just on the Settings Only option. No
joy with any of these.

I'm pressing on manually now (just cracked the Outlook Express bit,
for example), but for future reference and academic interest can
anyone suggest why this failed please?

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:40 AM
Ron Martell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:

>At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>"Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates. Go to the
>Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>priority updates listed."
>


That paragraph contradicts everything that I have ever been told about
Service Pack 2 by Microsoft, and I would suggest that you disregard
it.


>Is that absolutely essential please? Because I'm in a sort of Catch 22
>situation here.
>
>On my wife's new PC which we ordered without an OS, I've run her old
>XP SP1 CD, successfully installing a raw version of XP Home SP1. But
>before proceeding with adding her broadband and all the many other
>applications she had running on her old PC under XP SP2, I want to get
>back to the familiar look of her old desktop etc. To do that I used
>the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>on SP2. So I've downloaded the full 266 MB SP2 update EXE (on my own
>PC), copied it across to the new PC, and am now hesitating about
>running it.
>
>Any advice urgently appreciated please.



If you have the complete SP2 download then I suggest you just install
that. SP2 is a complete package and includes all critical updates
from the original release of Windows XP up to the date of SP2.

Of course once you have installed SP2 then you still need to go to
Windows update because there are a tremendous number of updates that
are post-SP2 which you also need to get installed.

And before you install SP2 you might want to look at the following web
site:
Service Pack Installation Checklist
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

Good luck
Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:50 AM
Alias
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Terry Pinnell wrote:
> Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:
>
>> Streaming wrote:
>>> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>> news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com...
>>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>>> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates.

>> False. Install the SP2 first and then get the updates. I've done it on
>> dozens of computers with outstanding results. Even though this is from
>> an MS site, SP2 includes all the updates from the release of SP1 to the
>> release of SP2 so I don't understand their guidance.
>>
>>
>> Go to the
>>>> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>>> priority updates listed."

>> You should *never* use Express Install unless you want WGA/N, IE7 and
>> other flawed crap.
>>
>> Alias

>
> Thanks, that proved sound advice. A little after posting I came across
> a non-MS thread that effectively said the same, i.e. SP2 already
> includes all SP1 updates. So I'm glad I ignored the MS article!
>
> I also agree entirely with you about Custom v Express. Although in
> this instance the only exception we made was to exclude IE7. (Last
> time WU inadvertently installed it on her PC, it gave a variety of
> problems, and no apparent benefits over IE6.)


Outlook has a big problem with IE7 if you use HTML in Outlook. IE7 makes
typing really slow and very, very frustrating. Personally, I only use
IE6 for Windows Updates and do all my Internet surfing with Ubuntu Linux
on another machine, being as there isn't one single Linux virus in the
wild. Not one.

>
> So all that SP2 upgrade part of the exercise went OK. But it didn't
> fix the issue that I mentioned at the outset. When run on the new PC
> the Wizard refused to recognise the compressed files it had made on
> the old PC. (Something like "Location contains no valid files...").
>
> I tried this using both an external HD and a 1 GB memory stick. I
> tried Files & Settings and then just on the Settings Only option. No
> joy with any of these.
>
> I'm pressing on manually now (just cracked the Outlook Express bit,
> for example), but for future reference and academic interest can
> anyone suggest why this failed please?
>


Sorry, I have never used FAST. I just back up the data on an external HD
and after reinstalling XP, put the data back. I manually configure
settings which really doesn't take that long and may even be less time
that you've spent fighting with FAST.

Alias
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Old 06-12-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:mihs63l6ses0n22rbh5a2hfscl9a167kof@4ax.com...
> "WhzzKdd" <frack_this@email_is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com. ..
>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>
>>> I used
>>> the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>>> settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>>> I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>>> on SP2.

>>
>>I believe you are correct. And it may not be just the SP2, but there is a
>>later update for FAST that allows compatibility between 32 bit and 64 bit
>>Windows. If that was installed, you'll have to have it back on the PC
>>before
>>you can access the data. BUT try the SP2 FAST first before adding that
>>latest update.

>
> Thanks for the various helpful follow-ups.
>
> WhzzKdd: as you may have seen from my reply just now to Alias, I had
> no joy with FAST (thanks for the acronym!) and am keen to get to the
> bottom of why. Not sure I grasp this 32/64 distinction. Didn't even
> know there *was* a '64 bit Windows'. When would I encounter that, or
> want it? In this case, I used her 4-year old XP Home CD, then used the
> 266 MB SP2 WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (which I downloaded on my
> own PC).
>


Windows does have a 32 bit and a 64 bit OS. The 64 bit provides better
support for the 64 bit processors, but unless one is running software
actually written for the 64 bit enviroment, there is not a significant
increase in performance.

That being the case, MS had to re-code the FAST to handle transferring data
from the 32 bit OS to the 64 bit OS. There was a MS update for that software
change. So the reality is that may be dealing with as many as FOUR
distinctly different versions of FAST: RTM (Release to Manufacture), SP1,
SP2, and the 64 bit update (maybe only three - the RTM may be the same as
the SP1 - I don't know for sure). In my experience (like yours), they do not
play well togther. I've lost data myself to this MS mess-up.

So your data may have been compressed with SP1, and SP2 may not read it. And
if you compressed with SP2, with the upgrade installed, the SP2 may not read
it.

Here at my home office, I used to have all four versions on disk. Why? Just
in case. I think I lost one or two recently - bad floppy disks.

What I would suggest doing is putting the CD that came with her computer
into the system, and when the menu comes up, go to the option for Perform
Additional Tasks, and run the FAST wizard from there. It is possible that
your data was compressed with that version. If that doesn't work, then get
the upgrade to the latest one and install it, and try again:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
(This was a non-critical update, but I've run into a number of computers
where the user installed it "just because it came from Microsoft", even
though they have no intention of ever going to a 64 bit system.)


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Old 06-12-2007, 12:30 PM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:

>Terry Pinnell wrote:
>> Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:
>>
>>> Streaming wrote:
>>>> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com...
>>>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>>> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>>>> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates.
>>> False. Install the SP2 first and then get the updates. I've done it on
>>> dozens of computers with outstanding results. Even though this is from
>>> an MS site, SP2 includes all the updates from the release of SP1 to the
>>> release of SP2 so I don't understand their guidance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to the
>>>>> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>>>> priority updates listed."
>>> You should *never* use Express Install unless you want WGA/N, IE7 and
>>> other flawed crap.
>>>
>>> Alias

>>
>> Thanks, that proved sound advice. A little after posting I came across
>> a non-MS thread that effectively said the same, i.e. SP2 already
>> includes all SP1 updates. So I'm glad I ignored the MS article!
>>
>> I also agree entirely with you about Custom v Express. Although in
>> this instance the only exception we made was to exclude IE7. (Last
>> time WU inadvertently installed it on her PC, it gave a variety of
>> problems, and no apparent benefits over IE6.)

>
>Outlook has a big problem with IE7 if you use HTML in Outlook. IE7 makes
>typing really slow and very, very frustrating. Personally, I only use
>IE6 for Windows Updates and do all my Internet surfing with Ubuntu Linux
>on another machine, being as there isn't one single Linux virus in the
>wild. Not one.


I use Firefox myself, but my wife seems happy enough with IE6.

>> So all that SP2 upgrade part of the exercise went OK. But it didn't
>> fix the issue that I mentioned at the outset. When run on the new PC
>> the Wizard refused to recognise the compressed files it had made on
>> the old PC. (Something like "Location contains no valid files...").
>>
>> I tried this using both an external HD and a 1 GB memory stick. I
>> tried Files & Settings and then just on the Settings Only option. No
>> joy with any of these.
>>
>> I'm pressing on manually now (just cracked the Outlook Express bit,
>> for example), but for future reference and academic interest can
>> anyone suggest why this failed please?
>>

>
>Sorry, I have never used FAST. I just back up the data on an external HD
>and after reinstalling XP, put the data back. I manually configure
>settings which really doesn't take that long and may even be less time
>that you've spent fighting with FAST.


No question about that. On this (admittedly limited) evidence, FAST
seems poorly named ;-)

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

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Old 06-12-2007, 12:40 PM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Ron Martell <ron.martell******.com> wrote:

>Terry Pinnell <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>>At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>"Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates. Go to the
>>Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>priority updates listed."
>>

>
>That paragraph contradicts everything that I have ever been told about
>Service Pack 2 by Microsoft, and I would suggest that you disregard
>it.
>
>
>>Is that absolutely essential please? Because I'm in a sort of Catch 22
>>situation here.
>>
>>On my wife's new PC which we ordered without an OS, I've run her old
>>XP SP1 CD, successfully installing a raw version of XP Home SP1. But
>>before proceeding with adding her broadband and all the many other
>>applications she had running on her old PC under XP SP2, I want to get
>>back to the familiar look of her old desktop etc. To do that I used
>>the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>>settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>>I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>>on SP2. So I've downloaded the full 266 MB SP2 update EXE (on my own
>>PC), copied it across to the new PC, and am now hesitating about
>>running it.
>>
>>Any advice urgently appreciated please.

>
>
>If you have the complete SP2 download then I suggest you just install
>that. SP2 is a complete package and includes all critical updates
>from the original release of Windows XP up to the date of SP2.
>
>Of course once you have installed SP2 then you still need to go to
>Windows update because there are a tremendous number of updates that
>are post-SP2 which you also need to get installed.
>
>And before you install SP2 you might want to look at the following web
>site:
>Service Pack Installation Checklist
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm
>
>Good luck
>Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Thanks. As you see from my later posts, I did disregard it, and all
went well.

--
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:41 PM
Terry Pinnell
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

"WhzzKdd" <frack_this@email_is.invalid> wrote:

>"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>news:mihs63l6ses0n22rbh5a2hfscl9a167kof@4ax.com.. .
>> "WhzzKdd" <frack_this@email_is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>>news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com ...
>>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>>
>>>> I used
>>>> the File & Transfer Wizard. But the new PC doesn't recognise the
>>>> settings I've copied across, i.e. the wizard won't run on the new PC.
>>>> I'm *guessing* this is because it's on SP1 and the settings were saved
>>>> on SP2.
>>>
>>>I believe you are correct. And it may not be just the SP2, but there is a
>>>later update for FAST that allows compatibility between 32 bit and 64 bit
>>>Windows. If that was installed, you'll have to have it back on the PC
>>>before
>>>you can access the data. BUT try the SP2 FAST first before adding that
>>>latest update.

>>
>> Thanks for the various helpful follow-ups.
>>
>> WhzzKdd: as you may have seen from my reply just now to Alias, I had
>> no joy with FAST (thanks for the acronym!) and am keen to get to the
>> bottom of why. Not sure I grasp this 32/64 distinction. Didn't even
>> know there *was* a '64 bit Windows'. When would I encounter that, or
>> want it? In this case, I used her 4-year old XP Home CD, then used the
>> 266 MB SP2 WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe (which I downloaded on my
>> own PC).
>>

>
>Windows does have a 32 bit and a 64 bit OS. The 64 bit provides better
>support for the 64 bit processors, but unless one is running software
>actually written for the 64 bit enviroment, there is not a significant
>increase in performance.
>
>That being the case, MS had to re-code the FAST to handle transferring data
>from the 32 bit OS to the 64 bit OS. There was a MS update for that software
>change. So the reality is that may be dealing with as many as FOUR
>distinctly different versions of FAST: RTM (Release to Manufacture), SP1,
>SP2, and the 64 bit update (maybe only three - the RTM may be the same as
>the SP1 - I don't know for sure). In my experience (like yours), they do not
>play well togther. I've lost data myself to this MS mess-up.
>
>So your data may have been compressed with SP1, and SP2 may not read it. And
>if you compressed with SP2, with the upgrade installed, the SP2 may not read
>it.
>
>Here at my home office, I used to have all four versions on disk. Why? Just
>in case. I think I lost one or two recently - bad floppy disks.
>
>What I would suggest doing is putting the CD that came with her computer
>into the system, and when the menu comes up, go to the option for Perform
>Additional Tasks, and run the FAST wizard from there. It is possible that
>your data was compressed with that version. If that doesn't work, then get
>the upgrade to the latest one and install it, and try again:
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>(This was a non-critical update, but I've run into a number of computers
>where the user installed it "just because it came from Microsoft", even
>though they have no intention of ever going to a 64 bit system.)
>


Thanks, I'll try that at some stage, if only to satisfy my curiosity,
and also to hopefully get FAST working when I install *my* next PC
sometime.

--
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Old 06-12-2007, 05:00 PM
Alias
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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Terry Pinnell wrote:
> Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:
>
>> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>> Alias <alsoknownas@maskedandanonymous.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Streaming wrote:
>>>>> "Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:kgdq635042r1ne4f096h7s2t3otku6utnf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
>>>>>> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
>>>>>> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates.
>>>> False. Install the SP2 first and then get the updates. I've done it on
>>>> dozens of computers with outstanding results. Even though this is from
>>>> an MS site, SP2 includes all the updates from the release of SP1 to the
>>>> release of SP2 so I don't understand their guidance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go to the
>>>>>> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
>>>>>> priority updates listed."
>>>> You should *never* use Express Install unless you want WGA/N, IE7 and
>>>> other flawed crap.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Thanks, that proved sound advice. A little after posting I came across
>>> a non-MS thread that effectively said the same, i.e. SP2 already
>>> includes all SP1 updates. So I'm glad I ignored the MS article!
>>>
>>> I also agree entirely with you about Custom v Express. Although in
>>> this instance the only exception we made was to exclude IE7. (Last
>>> time WU inadvertently installed it on her PC, it gave a variety of
>>> problems, and no apparent benefits over IE6.)

>> Outlook has a big problem with IE7 if you use HTML in Outlook. IE7 makes
>> typing really slow and very, very frustrating. Personally, I only use
>> IE6 for Windows Updates and do all my Internet surfing with Ubuntu Linux
>> on another machine, being as there isn't one single Linux virus in the
>> wild. Not one.

>
> I use Firefox myself,


So do I but with Ubuntu, not Windows.

> but my wife seems happy enough with IE6.


She's not as likely to go to the sites you and may visit ;-)

>
>>> So all that SP2 upgrade part of the exercise went OK. But it didn't
>>> fix the issue that I mentioned at the outset. When run on the new PC
>>> the Wizard refused to recognise the compressed files it had made on
>>> the old PC. (Something like "Location contains no valid files...").
>>>
>>> I tried this using both an external HD and a 1 GB memory stick. I
>>> tried Files & Settings and then just on the Settings Only option. No
>>> joy with any of these.
>>>
>>> I'm pressing on manually now (just cracked the Outlook Express bit,
>>> for example), but for future reference and academic interest can
>>> anyone suggest why this failed please?
>>>

>> Sorry, I have never used FAST. I just back up the data on an external HD
>> and after reinstalling XP, put the data back. I manually configure
>> settings which really doesn't take that long and may even be less time
>> that you've spent fighting with FAST.

>
> No question about that. On this (admittedly limited) evidence, FAST
> seems poorly named ;-)


For me, backing up data is easier manually than with a Wizard and easily
confirmed.

MS has a problem with some of their names like Outlook Express and Outlook.

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Re: Update SP1 before installing SP2?

Terry Pinnell wrote:
>
> At http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx I read
> "Before you install SP2, get your version of Windows completely
> up-to-date with the latest performance and security updates. Go to the
> Microsoft Update, click Express Install, and then install all high
> priority updates listed."


No, one can just install SP2 which contains all the updates in SP1

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/default...r=windowsxpsp2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../winxpsp2.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

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