Hello

I am unistalling a lot of programs like Quicken , paint shop pro 7 , well
its full of stuff. I am working on uninstalling microsoft works now , taking
it out of the registry and i think i am going to wear out the F3 key. are
there anyway to clean the entries out of registry beside one at a time?
Thanks Much
larry

This is a old dell computer with xp home , thought i would fool with it
before format and new xp install
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"larry" <larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:30DBD011-EE94-4CD9-979C-19ED8290B790@microsoft.com
> Hello
>
> I am unistalling a lot of programs like Quicken , paint shop pro 7
> , well its full of stuff. I am working on uninstalling microsoft
> works now , taking it out of the registry and i think i am going to
> wear out the F3 key. are there anyway to clean the entries out of
> registry beside one at a time? Thanks Much
> larry
>
> This is a old dell computer with xp home , thought i would fool with
> it before format and new xp install

Well there are free and commercial registry cleaners like ccleaner that
handles these things for you. But be warned, they can also break things
for you as well. But it sounds like you are planning on wiping the whole
thing out anyway. So what do you care?

If you do care though, ERUNT (freeware) will backup the registry before
you let one of these registry cleaners touch your system. Also a good
idea is to make a BartPE CD (free too). That way if the registry is so
corrupt that it can't even boot to safe mode, ERUNT and BartPE will fix
you right up. ;)

CCLEANER
http://www.ccleaner.com/

ERUNT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

BartPE
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

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On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:28:28 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>"larry" <larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:30DBD011-EE94-4CD9-979C-19ED8290B790@microsoft.com
>> Hello
>>
>> I am unistalling a lot of programs like Quicken , paint shop pro 7
>> , well its full of stuff. I am working on uninstalling microsoft
>> works now , taking it out of the registry and i think i am going to
>> wear out the F3 key. are there anyway to clean the entries out of
>> registry beside one at a time? Thanks Much
>> larry
>>
>> This is a old dell computer with xp home , thought i would fool with
>> it before format and new xp install
>
>Well there are free and commercial registry cleaners like ccleaner that
>handles these things for you. But be warned, they can also break things
>for you as well.


Yes! In fact, the risk of their creating a problem is much greater
than the likelihood of their solving one.

The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries don't
need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.


> But it sounds like you are planning on wiping the whole
>thing out anyway. So what do you care?


Good point.


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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:h3l65317emk8o9dmeaqtuh0i1t24qeuqbs@4ax.com
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:28:28 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> "larry" <larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:30DBD011-EE94-4CD9-979C-19ED8290B790@microsoft.com
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I am unistalling a lot of programs like Quicken , paint shop pro 7
>>> , well its full of stuff. I am working on uninstalling microsoft
>>> works now , taking it out of the registry and i think i am going to
>>> wear out the F3 key. are there anyway to clean the entries out of
>>> registry beside one at a time? Thanks Much
>>> larry
>>>
>>> This is a old dell computer with xp home , thought i would fool with
>>> it before format and new xp install
>>
>> Well there are free and commercial registry cleaners like ccleaner
>> that handles these things for you. But be warned, they can also
>> break things for you as well.
>
> Yes! In fact, the risk of their creating a problem is much greater
> than the likelihood of their solving one.

Well... kind of!

> The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries don't
> need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.

Well I know that is a popular belief here and for the most part it is
pretty much true. Although especially when it comes to the context menu
trying to display an option to a program that no longer exists, it will
speed up the showing of the context menu so much faster if it was
deleted from the registry. I really haven't found much of anything else
that speeds things up much by deleting unused entries.

>> But it sounds like you are planning on wiping the whole
>> thing out anyway. So what do you care?
>
> Good point.

Now is a good time to experiment! :)

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On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:39:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:

>The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries don't
>need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.

That's the thinking that results in the software bloat of much of
today's software. Instead of doing it right, programmers just add new
subroutines to fix problems, and leave the "no longer used" code in
place. I know it's all about money, but that doesn't mean it's right.

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"Zilbandy" <zil@zilbandyREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
news:6um653duq4a82jcor2rauk3qqrmdinkqkc@4ax.com
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:39:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>> The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries
>> don't need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.
>
> That's the thinking that results in the software bloat of much of
> today's software. Instead of doing it right, programmers just add new
> subroutines to fix problems, and leave the "no longer used" code in
> place. I know it's all about money, but that doesn't mean it's right.

Well I was biting my tongue... but yes. Even if the garbage entries
doesn't slow the system down any (which is questionable IMHO), it still
eats up RAM. But adding more RAM fixes that problem too.

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BillW50 , Mr Blake , and Zilbandy

Shoot , i sure do appreciate your replys. I read the posts on this site
everyday so i didnt mention registry cleaners. This fellow was just about
to toss this dadburn computer in the trash so i took it and was going to try
and get it running half way decent , it has never been defraged or had any
kind of programs like ad-aware ,ccleaner or spy-bot run on it , him said that
he has never deleted any temp files.
So folks i am just going to mess around with it before i format hhd. this
is a dell with the reinstallation cd and i was wondering if i could install a
reg xp home OS in it , or maybe windows 98.
Thanks again
larry





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Asus P4c800E Deluxe
Intel P-4 800 3.0G 1mb cache
Crucial 2x 512MB DDR400
2x WD 80GB Sata 150 7200rpm 8M
Ati Radeon 9800XT 256MB
Audigy 2ZS
Windows XP , home



"larry" wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am unistalling a lot of programs like Quicken , paint shop pro 7 , well
> its full of stuff. I am working on uninstalling microsoft works now , taking
> it out of the registry and i think i am going to wear out the F3 key. are
> there anyway to clean the entries out of registry beside one at a time?
> Thanks Much
> larry
>
> This is a old dell computer with xp home , thought i would fool with it
> before format and new xp install
> --
>
> Aspire X-Superalien 500W
> Asus P4c800E Deluxe
> Intel P-4 800 3.0G 1mb cache
> Crucial 2x 512MB DDR400
> 2x WD 80GB Sata 150 7200rpm 8M
> Ati Radeon 9800XT 256MB
> Audigy 2ZS
> Windows XP , home
>

"larry" <larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:775BDA46-9E5B-427B-A825-F8F397585F1D@microsoft.com
> BillW50 , Mr Blake , and Zilbandy
>
> Shoot , i sure do appreciate your replys. I read the posts on this
> site everyday so i didnt mention registry cleaners. This fellow was
> just about to toss this dadburn computer in the trash so i took it
> and was going to try and get it running half way decent , it has
> never been defraged or had any kind of programs like ad-aware
> ,ccleaner or spy-bot run on it , him said that he has never deleted
> any temp files. So folks i am just going to mess around with it
> before i format hhd. this is a dell with the reinstallation cd and i
> was wondering if i could install a reg xp home OS in it , or maybe
> windows 98.
> Thanks again
> larry

Whoa Larry! You need the drivers on the hard drive (maybe). The easiest
way I know is using:

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"larry" wrote
> BillW50 , Mr Blake , and Zilbandy
>
> Shoot , i sure do appreciate your replys. I read the posts on this site
> everyday so i didnt mention registry cleaners. This fellow was just
> about
> to toss this dadburn computer in the trash so i took it and was going to
> try
> and get it running half way decent , it has never been defraged or had any
> kind of programs like ad-aware ,ccleaner or spy-bot run on it , him said
> that
> he has never deleted any temp files.
> So folks i am just going to mess around with it before i format hhd.
> this
> is a dell with the reinstallation cd and i was wondering if i could
> install a
> reg xp home OS in it , or maybe windows 98.
> Thanks again

<snip>

Yes you can install a retail or generic copy of XP. Just go to the Dell web
site and get all the drivers for the computer hardware.

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BillW50 wrote:
> "Zilbandy" <zil@zilbandyREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
> news:6um653duq4a82jcor2rauk3qqrmdinkqkc@4ax.com
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:39:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
>> <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>
>>> The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries
>>> don't need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.
>>
>> That's the thinking that results in the software bloat of much of
>> today's software. Instead of doing it right, programmers just add new
>> subroutines to fix problems, and leave the "no longer used" code in
>> place. I know it's all about money, but that doesn't mean it's right.
>
> Well I was biting my tongue... but yes. Even if the garbage entries
> doesn't slow the system down any (which is questionable IMHO), it
> still eats up RAM. But adding more RAM fixes that problem too.

Isn't this academic? If there is a difference, isn't it insignificant?

And if there is a difference in purging unused orphaned registry keys,
can someone post a link? (I'm open-minded...)

I am aware that sometimes it is necessary to use regedit or RegCleaner
in the event of a conflict following a botched or incomplete uninstall
(I seem to recall Norton being mentioned as a culprit more than once).
But otherwise, how much RAM (or CPU cycles) is being used in the case of
harmless leftover registry entries?

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote in message
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> BillW50 wrote:
>> "Zilbandy" <zil@zilbandyREMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
>> news:6um653duq4a82jcor2rauk3qqrmdinkqkc@4ax.com
>>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 13:39:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
>>> <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The registry doesn't need to be cleaned, unused registry entries
>>>> don't need to be removed, and no registry cleaner is needed.
>>>
>>> That's the thinking that results in the software bloat of much of
>>> today's software. Instead of doing it right, programmers just add
>>> new subroutines to fix problems, and leave the "no longer used"
>>> code in place. I know it's all about money, but that doesn't mean
>>> it's right.
>>
>> Well I was biting my tongue... but yes. Even if the garbage entries
>> doesn't slow the system down any (which is questionable IMHO), it
>> still eats up RAM. But adding more RAM fixes that problem too.
>
> Isn't this academic? If there is a difference, isn't it insignificant?
>
> And if there is a difference in purging unused orphaned registry keys,
> can someone post a link? (I'm open-minded...)
>
> I am aware that sometimes it is necessary to use regedit or RegCleaner
> in the event of a conflict following a botched or incomplete uninstall
> (I seem to recall Norton being mentioned as a culprit more than once).
> But otherwise, how much RAM (or CPU cycles) is being used in the case
> of harmless leftover registry entries?

Well it is like what I was telling Ken in this very thread. I have seen
errors pointing to an application in the context menus that doesn't
exist any longer. And those right click menus takes so long to open.
Once they are cleaned up, they sail right though.

But yes, I don't think you would normally see anything differently or
harmful from cleaning up those extra no longer valid registry entries.

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Bill