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Old 05-07-2007, 04:30 PM
Az_Carl
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Re: Defragmenter no longer works



"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> AVG 7 Free.
>
> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:C3E239C0-C572-4AD3-B54C-1818F00D3AD4@microsoft.com,
> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > Wesley:
> >
> > I'm happy with the crutch. Thanks for all your help.
> >
> > One final question: If not Norton, then what?
> > --
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, Ed, this may sound like a crutch, but anytime that you need to
> >> defrag, run it in Safe Mode. <shrug> At least it works. ;-)
> >>
> >> I have absolutely no idea about Speed Disk. I won't have *anything*
> >> Norton or McAfee on my machine.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>
> >> Wes
> >> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> In news:94EAA858-AC50-4D2C-898A-BEEE484A736A@microsoft.com,
> >> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>> Well, I ran Fefrag in Safe Made and it worked! While I was at it, I
> >>> went ahead and defragged my hard drive, which took most of the
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> Defrag in Windows, though, still does not work.
> >>>
> >>> As for uninstalling Speed Disk, I recently downloaded Norton SystemWorks
> >>> and Firewall and thus don't have a CD from which I could reload Speed
> >>> Disk after uninstalling it. But if Speed Disk is blocking Defrag, does
> >>> it work the other way too?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>> Find your XP CD and try sfc /scannow again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Start in Safe Mode and see if defrag works.
> >>>>
> >>>> To start the computer in safe mode
> >>>>
> >>

> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d..._failsafe.mspx
> >>>>
> >>>> I just reread your first post. Get rid of Norton's Speed Disk. Just a
> >>>> guess, but I bet that is what's causing the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Uninstall Norton's Speed Disk, reboot and try running defrag. If it
> >>>> works and you really want Norton's Speed Disk, reinstall it, reboot and
> >>>> see if Speed Disk and defrag work. You can than judge if Norton's
> >>>> Speed Disk was causing any problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wes
> >>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>>>
> >>>> In news:5C1FD4E5-47BD-4E71-A7F8-4BBC466627B2@microsoft.com,
> >>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>>>> Wesley:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OK, here is the best I can do with your last set of instructions and
> >>>>> suggestions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. When I enter defrag C: I get the usual response--Disk Defragmenter
> >>>>> could not start....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. The scannow sfc was a washout. I kept getting messages that said
> >>>>> "Files that are required for Windows to run properly must be copied to
> >>>>> the DLL cashe. Insert XP CD now." Unfortunately, I could not find my
> >>>>> XP CD after two hours of searching. It's been a while....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. The Event Viewer showed quite a few errors under Applications and
> >>>>> Systems, none under the other category.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. I went to the website with Registry Mechanic, downloaded it, and
> >>>>> ran the trial version, which turned up something like 689 errors in
> >>>>> the registry. Fixing them all required a purchase. Do you recommend
> >>>>> such a purchase? It sells for $29.99, not bad if it works.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5. Finally, I ran the two regsvr32 files and both succeeded.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm open to further directions from you or any other computer pro such
> >>>>> as yourself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now to bed. I'll check back tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt, type
> >>>>>> defrag C:
> >>>>>> and hit Enter?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Try running The System File Checker (sfc.exe).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Start | Run | Type or paste: sfc /scannow | Click OK
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This will take a while.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If SFC.EXE did anything it will be in the Event Viewer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Open the Event Viewer...
> >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: eventvwr | Click OK |
> >>>>>> Click System | Look at any Windows File Protection
> >>>>>> entries
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> More info..
> >>>>>> scannow sfc (sfc.exe)
> >>>>>> http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> After running sfc, reregister dfrgui.dll and dfrgsnap.dll.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgui.dll | Click OK
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Start | Run | Type: regsvr32 dfrgsnap.dll | Click OK
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wes
> >>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In news:1B6E74D6-13EF-4160-8046-4A5114E98447@microsoft.com,
> >>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>>>>>> Back to Wesley this time:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In response to defrag/? I get usage info, not an error message,
> >>>>>>> e.g., volume, analyze only, force...., verbose output, etc.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In response to dfrg.msc, Defragmenter does open, as always, but
> >>>>>>> when I click on Analyze or Defragment, I get the usual response:
> >>>>>>> "Disk Defragmenter could not start."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What does this tell you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ed,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> defrag.exe has to run from a command prompt.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> dfrg.msc is the file that has all the pretty colors.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What happens if you open a command prompt...
> >>>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: cmd | Click OK |
> >>>>>>>> Type defrag /? in the command prompt and hit Enter?
> >>>>>>>> Do you get the Usage info? Or an error message? If an error
> >>>>>>>> message, what's the message?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What happens if you...
> >>>>>>>> Start | Run | Type: dfrg.msc | Click OK
> >>>>>>>> Does Disk Defragmenter open? Or do you get an error message? If an
> >>>>>>>> error message, what's the message? If Disk Defragmenter opens what
> >>>>>>>> happens if you click Analyze? Or if you click Defragment?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wes
> >>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In news:539B0AC3-4FC9-48B1-A5B8-5D4DDCFFEDAA@microsoft.com,
> >>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> >>>>>>>>> Marv:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I downloaded and ran the file but to no avail. At least, I
> >>>>>>>>> thought I ran it; it opened and closed too fast to tell--but it's
> >>>>>>>>> only 69K.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks anyway. Any other ideas?
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Marv" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> egleaves,
> >>>>>>>>>> Try this download from my site. It came from Microsoft I believe.
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com/Downloads/defrag.exe
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>> Marv
> >>>>>>>>>> Marvs Windows Tips & Tricks
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.marvswindowstips.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "egleaves" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to Wesley, I was able to find the hidden folder and
> >>>>>>>>>>> install dfrg.inf.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But Disk Defragmenter still does not work.....
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm about ready to throw my computer out the door, but not
> >>>>>>>>>>> yet.....
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any other suggestions?
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> \WINDOWS\inf is a Hidden folder.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paste the following in Start | Run and click OK...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> %windir%\inf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Right click dfrg.inf and select Install
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> HOW TO: Search For Hidden Or System Files In Windows XP
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;302347
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To display Hidden files and folders...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Start | Settings | Control Panel | Folder Options | View tab
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Check:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Display the contents of system folders
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Show hidden files and folders
> >>>>>>>>>>>> UNCheck:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hide protected operating system files (Recommended)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Click Apply | Click OK
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [[Hidden files and folders will appear dimmed to indicate they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are not typical items.]]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In news:3A218291-A71D-4AE0-AC2D-6E779CE49713@microsoft.com,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> egleaves <egleaves@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> pecked:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My Disk Defragmenter no longer works, a possible casualty of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Diskeeper. Nor, for that matter, does Norton's Speed Disk.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk Defragmenter says "Disk Defragmenter could not start"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and Speed Disk says "Speed Disk is unable to access Drive C.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please check to see if another application has the drive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> locked."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've looked at many of the postings on this site, and one of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> best responses I have seen is AndreasRoom.com. I made the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> changes in the command prompts as suggested, but still no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> luck. (I was not able to find the windows\inf folder as
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested--any suggestions?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also changed the setting to System Managed Size under
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Virtual Memory in the Control Panel as suggested by another
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> writer, but still no luck.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What's left to do? I'd love to hear from some of you smart
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this issue. My computer badly needs to be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> defragmented.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed

Wow!! My Defrag utility has not worked for months, but after running
sfc.exe reregistering the two .dll files, my defrag utility is working once
again. Thanks a lot!!
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