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Old 12-03-2006, 11:40 AM
Ron Jeffries
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M400 Monitor Inversion?

Toshiba M400 ...

I'd like to put the laptop in tablet mode beside my LCD monitor, and
use the tablet to draw on and the LCD to type on. Unfortunately, when
you put the tablet in its dociking station into tablet mode, it flips
the picture (and you need to, so you can see it).

I'm aware of Ultramon, which almost works to flip the one side back,
but the operative word is almost.

I'd be interested in anyone knows another way to flip the monitor and
LCD separately. Or, if anyone knows of an LCD monitor that has a
picture flipping capability.

Thanks!

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

In article <mdlsl2hvabbdiocl4bf0a95sbosl1lk48v@4ax.com>,
ronjeffries@acm.org says...
> I'd be interested in anyone knows another way to flip the monitor and
> LCD separately. Or, if anyone knows of an LCD monitor that has a
> picture flipping capability.
>

Are you using the monitor to display the esact same thing as is displayed
on yout Tablet PC? In other words is the M400 set to simply duplicate the
tablet screen onto the monitor?

Or is the monitor set up as a "Secondary Monitor" in the Windows display
settings?
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:41 AM
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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

I love my LG monitor. It doesn't flip the picture, but it can be used in
portrait mode. I use it in portrait quite a bit so that the Tablet and
desktop monitor the same.

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"Ron Jeffries" <ronjeffries@acm.org> wrote in message
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> Toshiba M400 ...
>
> I'd like to put the laptop in tablet mode beside my LCD monitor, and
> use the tablet to draw on and the LCD to type on. Unfortunately, when
> you put the tablet in its dociking station into tablet mode, it flips
> the picture (and you need to, so you can see it).
>
> I'm aware of Ultramon, which almost works to flip the one side back,
> but the operative word is almost.
>
> I'd be interested in anyone knows another way to flip the monitor and
> LCD separately. Or, if anyone knows of an LCD monitor that has a
> picture flipping capability.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com


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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:09:47 -0800, "terri" <help@thetabletpc.net>
wrote:

>I love my LG monitor. It doesn't flip the picture, but it can be used in
>portrait mode. I use it in portrait quite a bit so that the Tablet and
>desktop monitor the same.


Physically flipping the screen over would work ... I don't think this
particular monitor would do that but I could look for one that does.
Not the worse idea. My plan at present is to work in landscape still
.... I use the tablet in that way. It's just that when you convert to
tablet mode, it goes upside down ... TWO rotations.

Ron Jeffries
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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:07:57 -0600, Grant Robertson <BOGUS@BOGUS.com>
wrote:

>Are you using the monitor to display the esact same thing as is displayed
>on yout Tablet PC? In other words is the M400 set to simply duplicate the
>tablet screen onto the monitor?
>
>Or is the monitor set up as a "Secondary Monitor" in the Windows display
>settings?


So far I've been keeping them identical. For this purpose I might be
able to use a secondary monitor, though having them identical would
probably be easier.

The sort of thing I'm thinking of is to be writing a Word document,
and draw a picture right into it. Could imagine drawing separately
into ArtRage or something and then cut/paste back to word.

So ... do you know a way to do it in either of the modes you ask
about?

Thanks,

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

In article <44ntl290mpmv0qas53klp07v25o9vcvhu5@4ax.com>,
ronjeffries@acm.org says...
> The sort of thing I'm thinking of is to be writing a Word document,
> and draw a picture right into it. Could imagine drawing separately
> into ArtRage or something and then cut/paste back to word.


I use a "Secondary monitor" all the time. I often do what you are
requesting except that you can't keep the same document open on two
different monitors. Oftentimes, when I want to be able to type and ink in
the same document, I will lean the screen of my convertible tablet PC way
back and prop it up on something so that it is at an angle of about 30
degrees from the table. I find an inverted plastic tumbler works
perfectly. Actually, this angle is much better on your neck when using a
laptop anyway. When people try to keep the screen close to straight up
and type on the laptop keyboard they end up needing to scrunch down to
see the screen and hurt their neck.



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Re: M400 Monitor Inversion?

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 10:34:12 -0600, Grant Robertson <BOGUS@BOGUS.com>
wrote:

>In article <44ntl290mpmv0qas53klp07v25o9vcvhu5@4ax.com>,
>ronjeffries@acm.org says...
>> The sort of thing I'm thinking of is to be writing a Word document,
>> and draw a picture right into it. Could imagine drawing separately
>> into ArtRage or something and then cut/paste back to word.

>
>I use a "Secondary monitor" all the time. I often do what you are
>requesting except that you can't keep the same document open on two
>different monitors. Oftentimes, when I want to be able to type and ink in
>the same document, I will lean the screen of my convertible tablet PC way
>back and prop it up on something so that it is at an angle of about 30
>degrees from the table. I find an inverted plastic tumbler works
>perfectly. Actually, this angle is much better on your neck when using a
>laptop anyway. When people try to keep the screen close to straight up
>and type on the laptop keyboard they end up needing to scrunch down to
>see the screen and hurt their neck.


I tried UltraMon last night, and a commercial product called PivotPro,
which I hadn't seen before. I had the same kinds of problems I had
with UltraMon on my M200, including little odds and ends like crashing
Explorer.

PivotPro doesn't have all the weird features that UltraMon has, which
I had hoped would make it less dangerous. I had the machine in
two-monitor mode, and had the Disiplay properties up on the secondary
monitor, when PivotPro crashed, leaving me no way to get to the
secondary to get display properties back. I was afraid I was going to
have to relearn how to write window-oriented code to find all the
windows on the system and set them back onto the main screen.
Fortunately, a reboot brought the display properties back to the main
screen.

I would think that leaning the screen would be good, but leaning it
back would leave the keyboard vulnerable to being leaned on as I draw,
resulting in typing things like afdskl;j and zxvc;liawerkn.

I'd much rather be able to leave it docked and just flip the screen
around and down ... the dock gives it a little slope, and I could prop
up the back if need be.

I'm thinking now that maybe I could use pivot pro and just pivot back
and forth every time I move from the drawing screen to the real
screen.

<sigh>

Almost makes me want to go to a Wacom instead ...

But maybe I can figure a way to flip my monitor upside down. I
wouldn't mind working with the laptop always in table mode when it's
at home ...

Further ideas welcome ... thanks!

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
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