Is Tablet PC included i a new install of Windows XP Professional? I am trying
to upgrade an older tablet that is running2000 pro. I need to replace the
hard drive so now is the time to go to XP if I am going to.

No, it isn't. You cannot "upgrade" an "older" Tablet PC which has been
running Windows 2000 to run the current Windows XP SP2 and the Tablet PC
Edition 2005 unless you have access to an MSDN subscription for development
purposes only. There is no availability of the Tablet PC Edition other than
through a OEM purchase at this time.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Iwonttelltou2" <Iwonttelltou2@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F00E988D-C2C9-4480-AAE7-0F327642E55F@microsoft.com...
> Is Tablet PC included i a new install of Windows XP Professional? I am
> trying
> to upgrade an older tablet that is running2000 pro. I need to replace the
> hard drive so now is the time to go to XP if I am going to.

Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.

I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.

As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at the
moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for your
computer.

Just an option...

On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc., required by
Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of the operating
system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of Vista now, unless
there's a tuner (among other things), the installer won't be able to record
TV. 8-)
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>
> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>
> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at the
> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for your
> computer.
>
> Just an option...
>

Bzzzzt. Not true. I've said this several times. Hardware does NOT determine
whether or not the Tablet PC functionality is installed with Vista. It is
available on every single machine running every version of Vista except Home
Basic. Desktop, laptop, OQO, Origami devices, whatever... they all get
journal/TIP/sticky notes/recognizers/etc.

So even a regular old touch screen computer (assuming it is even able to run
Vista at all) can use the Tablet PC features. Hate to sound like a broken
record but this myth keeps creeping up.

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
news:%23NvX4%23P%23GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc., required by
> Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of the operating
> system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of Vista now, unless
> there's a tuner (among other things), the installer won't be able to
> record TV. 8-)
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
> news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
>> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>>
>> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
>> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>>
>> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
>> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at the
>> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for your
>> computer.
>>
>> Just an option...
>>
>
>

A tv tuner also isn't required for the media center bits to be installed.

--
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
(and other topics that interest me)
http://jtsang.blogspot.com

More information by me
http://jtsang.mvps.org
http://www.classicsunveiled.com

Find out about the MS MVP Program -
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx



"Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
news:E88BBE8D-B03F-4AAB-8702-63B7804AEF85@microsoft.com...
> Bzzzzt. Not true. I've said this several times. Hardware does NOT
> determine whether or not the Tablet PC functionality is installed with
> Vista. It is available on every single machine running every version of
> Vista except Home Basic. Desktop, laptop, OQO, Origami devices,
> whatever... they all get journal/TIP/sticky notes/recognizers/etc.
>
> So even a regular old touch screen computer (assuming it is even able to
> run Vista at all) can use the Tablet PC features. Hate to sound like a
> broken record but this myth keeps creeping up.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
> Einstein Technologies, LLC
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
> Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
> Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng
>
>
> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NvX4%23P%23GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc., required
>> by Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of the
>> operating system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of Vista
>> now, unless there's a tuner (among other things), the installer won't be
>> able to record TV. 8-)
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
>>> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>>>
>>> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
>>> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>>>
>>> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
>>> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at the
>>> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for your
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> Just an option...
>>>
>>
>>
>

Although the bits may install, they won't work as completely as intended
without the proper hardware.

This is one of the problems with some of the computers sold with MCE as it
was cheaper than XP Pro. People thought they were going to go home and be
able to watch and record TV on their computers not realizing that they
needed to have a TV tuner.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs

"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eow%23wyS%23GHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>A tv tuner also isn't required for the media center bits to be installed.
>
> --
> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
> (and other topics that interest me)
> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>
> More information by me
> http://jtsang.mvps.org
> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>
> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
>
>
> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
> news:E88BBE8D-B03F-4AAB-8702-63B7804AEF85@microsoft.com...
>> Bzzzzt. Not true. I've said this several times. Hardware does NOT
>> determine whether or not the Tablet PC functionality is installed with
>> Vista. It is available on every single machine running every version of
>> Vista except Home Basic. Desktop, laptop, OQO, Origami devices,
>> whatever... they all get journal/TIP/sticky notes/recognizers/etc.
>>
>> So even a regular old touch screen computer (assuming it is even able to
>> run Vista at all) can use the Tablet PC features. Hate to sound like a
>> broken record but this myth keeps creeping up.
>>
>> --
>> Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
>> Einstein Technologies, LLC
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
>> Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
>> Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng
>>
>>
>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23NvX4%23P%23GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc., required
>>> by Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of the
>>> operating system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of Vista
>>> now, unless there's a tuner (among other things), the installer won't be
>>> able to record TV. 8-)
>>> --
>>> Chris H.
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>
>>>
>>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
>>>> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>>>>
>>>> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
>>>> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>>>>
>>>> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
>>>> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at the
>>>> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for your
>>>> computer.
>>>>
>>>> Just an option...
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

But the point Jason and I are trying to make is that the lack of a
particular piece of hardware will not result in a "generic install of the
operating system" as Chris put it.

Vista wisely allows the software pieces to install normally and that way if
someone later adds a Wacom tablet to their desktop or if they have a touch
screen monitor, or just feel like trying tablet apps with their mouse, they
can do so. And if they add a TV tuner later on, then the record feature will
work. If not, playback still works. Etc.

That's the only point I am trying to get across.

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"terri" <terri@no.spam.mvps.org> wrote in message
news:07C717A1-020B-43A1-AADF-3496451BFFF0@microsoft.com...
> Although the bits may install, they won't work as completely as intended
> without the proper hardware.
>
> This is one of the problems with some of the computers sold with MCE as it
> was cheaper than XP Pro. People thought they were going to go home and be
> able to watch and record TV on their computers not realizing that they
> needed to have a TV tuner.
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Featured Community
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Windows MVP - Tablet PC
> http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs
>
> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eow%23wyS%23GHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>A tv tuner also isn't required for the media center bits to be installed.
>>
>> --
>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>
>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>> (and other topics that interest me)
>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>
>> More information by me
>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>
>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
>> news:E88BBE8D-B03F-4AAB-8702-63B7804AEF85@microsoft.com...
>>> Bzzzzt. Not true. I've said this several times. Hardware does NOT
>>> determine whether or not the Tablet PC functionality is installed with
>>> Vista. It is available on every single machine running every version of
>>> Vista except Home Basic. Desktop, laptop, OQO, Origami devices,
>>> whatever... they all get journal/TIP/sticky notes/recognizers/etc.
>>>
>>> So even a regular old touch screen computer (assuming it is even able to
>>> run Vista at all) can use the Tablet PC features. Hate to sound like a
>>> broken record but this myth keeps creeping up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
>>> Einstein Technologies, LLC
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
>>> Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
>>> Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23NvX4%23P%23GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc., required
>>>> by Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of the
>>>> operating system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of Vista
>>>> now, unless there's a tuner (among other things), the installer won't
>>>> be able to record TV. 8-)
>>>> --
>>>> Chris H.
>>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>> Associate Expert
>>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>>>>> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
>>>>> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
>>>>> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
>>>>> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at
>>>>> the
>>>>> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for
>>>>> your
>>>>> computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just an option...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Gotcha, Josh.

terri
"Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
news:BB8FAC05-5C50-4C9C-9640-0A83DF28FB24@microsoft.com...
> But the point Jason and I are trying to make is that the lack of a
> particular piece of hardware will not result in a "generic install of the
> operating system" as Chris put it.
>
> Vista wisely allows the software pieces to install normally and that way
> if someone later adds a Wacom tablet to their desktop or if they have a
> touch screen monitor, or just feel like trying tablet apps with their
> mouse, they can do so. And if they add a TV tuner later on, then the
> record feature will work. If not, playback still works. Etc.
>
> That's the only point I am trying to get across.
>
> --
> Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
> Einstein Technologies, LLC
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
> Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
> Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng
>
>
> "terri" <terri@no.spam.mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:07C717A1-020B-43A1-AADF-3496451BFFF0@microsoft.com...
>> Although the bits may install, they won't work as completely as intended
>> without the proper hardware.
>>
>> This is one of the problems with some of the computers sold with MCE as
>> it was cheaper than XP Pro. People thought they were going to go home
>> and be able to watch and record TV on their computers not realizing that
>> they needed to have a TV tuner.
>> --
>> Terri Stratton
>> Microsoft Featured Community
>> http://thetabletpc.net
>> Windows MVP - Tablet PC
>> http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs
>>
>> "Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:eow%23wyS%23GHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>A tv tuner also isn't required for the media center bits to be installed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>>>
>>> Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
>>> (and other topics that interest me)
>>> http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> More information by me
>>> http://jtsang.mvps.org
>>> http://www.classicsunveiled.com
>>>
>>> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Josh Einstein" <josheinstein********.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E88BBE8D-B03F-4AAB-8702-63B7804AEF85@microsoft.com...
>>>> Bzzzzt. Not true. I've said this several times. Hardware does NOT
>>>> determine whether or not the Tablet PC functionality is installed with
>>>> Vista. It is available on every single machine running every version of
>>>> Vista except Home Basic. Desktop, laptop, OQO, Origami devices,
>>>> whatever... they all get journal/TIP/sticky notes/recognizers/etc.
>>>>
>>>> So even a regular old touch screen computer (assuming it is even able
>>>> to run Vista at all) can use the Tablet PC features. Hate to sound like
>>>> a broken record but this myth keeps creeping up.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
>>>> Einstein Technologies, LLC
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
>>>> Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
>>>> Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Chris H." <winxpnews********.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23NvX4%23P%23GHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> On a computer which does not have the proper digitizers, etc.,
>>>>> required by Tablet PCs the user will end up with a generic install of
>>>>> the operating system. Just like Media Center Edition being part of
>>>>> Vista now, unless there's a tuner (among other things), the installer
>>>>> won't be able to record TV. 8-)
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris H.
>>>>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>>>>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>>>>> Associate Expert
>>>>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1161846754.649460.259870@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>>>>>> Another possibility is Vista which has the Tablet functionality
>>>>>> built-in. There is not a separate Vista Tablet PC edition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I reformatted my Tablet (running XP Tablet Edition) and installed the
>>>>>> latest beta version of Vista. It works wonderfully on my Tablet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you can not purchase XP Tablet PC Edition, and probably never will
>>>>>> be able to, you may wish to go Vista (even though it's only beta at
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> moment) as that may eventually be the only OS you can purchase for
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just an option...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>