I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
concept.

I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
definitely appeals.

But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.

Is there something else out there I should be looking at?

All ideas and suggestions welcome.

A program needs to be aware of ink input. If it isn't, then no matter
whether you're using RitePen or Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, you'll need to
use the input panel.

Developers will hopefully start making more and more programs ink aware.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs

"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1160733505.879596.295820@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> concept.
>
> I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> definitely appeals.
>
> But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
>
> Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
>
> All ideas and suggestions welcome.
>

Are you using Firefox? Does it work in IE?

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1160733505.879596.295820@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> concept.
>
> I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> definitely appeals.
>
> But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
>
> Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
>
> All ideas and suggestions welcome.
>

I am using MSIE 7 (Vista).

I also tried with MSIE 6 and XP Tablet PC Edition.

Apparently Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, has not (yet?) made IE
"ink aware".

That said I have found very few programs that I use to be "ink aware"
thereby making the interest of ritePen (or an equivalent) rather minor.

I do not use my Tablet to write a long document in Word or even a long
e-mail in text in Outlook. I have a normal PC for that or I hook my
Tablet slate up to its docking station and use a normal keyboard and
mouse for that.

However I was hoping to be able to browse Internet sites, where I use
more and more Web2-style applications such as this here Google group
interface, and enter basic text without going through the very slow
input panel which also takes up a huge amount of screen real estate.

;-(

Internet Explorer is "ink aware" but not all web sites are, Derek. What
you're basically talking about is web sites and web hosting which supports
certain functionalities, not a lack thereof in IE.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1160819805.860998.223180@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>I am using MSIE 7 (Vista).
>
> I also tried with MSIE 6 and XP Tablet PC Edition.
>
> Apparently Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, has not (yet?) made IE
> "ink aware".
>
> That said I have found very few programs that I use to be "ink aware"
> thereby making the interest of ritePen (or an equivalent) rather minor.
>
> I do not use my Tablet to write a long document in Word or even a long
> e-mail in text in Outlook. I have a normal PC for that or I hook my
> Tablet slate up to its docking station and use a normal keyboard and
> mouse for that.
>
> However I was hoping to be able to browse Internet sites, where I use
> more and more Web2-style applications such as this here Google group
> interface, and enter basic text without going through the very slow
> input panel which also takes up a huge amount of screen real estate.
>
> ;-(
>

I do not understand your problem. I am using ritepen now to reply to
your question. I am using firefox as my browser. I cannot tell you if
it works in IE.
Derek Erb wrote:
> I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> concept.
>
> I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> definitely appeals.
>
> But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
>
> Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
>
> All ideas and suggestions welcome.

Thanks for the info Chris.

As a web site developer how do I make my TextInput fields in my Forms
"ink aware"?

Chris H. wrote:
> Internet Explorer is "ink aware" but not all web sites are, Derek. What
> you're basically talking about is web sites and web hosting which supports
> certain functionalities, not a lack thereof in IE.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
> news:1160819805.860998.223180@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> >I am using MSIE 7 (Vista).
> >
> > I also tried with MSIE 6 and XP Tablet PC Edition.
> >
> > Apparently Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, has not (yet?) made IE
> > "ink aware".
> >
> > That said I have found very few programs that I use to be "ink aware"
> > thereby making the interest of ritePen (or an equivalent) rather minor.
> >
> > I do not use my Tablet to write a long document in Word or even a long
> > e-mail in text in Outlook. I have a normal PC for that or I hook my
> > Tablet slate up to its docking station and use a normal keyboard and
> > mouse for that.
> >
> > However I was hoping to be able to browse Internet sites, where I use
> > more and more Web2-style applications such as this here Google group
> > interface, and enter basic text without going through the very slow
> > input panel which also takes up a huge amount of screen real estate.
> >
> > ;-(
> >

Desz,

I haven't installed Firebox (yet) on my Tablet PC which is running
Vista.

Do you not have this problem with ritePen when using MSIE (which you
obviously avoid).

;-)

Desz wrote:
> I do not understand your problem. I am using ritepen now to reply to
> your question. I am using firefox as my browser. I cannot tell you if
> it works in IE.
> Derek Erb wrote:
> > I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> > concept.
> >
> > I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> > definitely appeals.
> >
> > But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> > web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
> >
> > Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
> >
> > All ideas and suggestions welcome.

8-) You'd need to check the microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc.developer
newsgroup for additional information, Derek. This newsgroup is for basic
user issues, and they're into the dev/programming sector over there.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1160843310.380823.105400@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the info Chris.
>
> As a web site developer how do I make my TextInput fields in my Forms
> "ink aware"?
>
> Chris H. wrote:
>> Internet Explorer is "ink aware" but not all web sites are, Derek. What
>> you're basically talking about is web sites and web hosting which
>> supports
>> certain functionalities, not a lack thereof in IE.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160819805.860998.223180@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am using MSIE 7 (Vista).
>> >
>> > I also tried with MSIE 6 and XP Tablet PC Edition.
>> >
>> > Apparently Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, has not (yet?) made IE
>> > "ink aware".
>> >
>> > That said I have found very few programs that I use to be "ink aware"
>> > thereby making the interest of ritePen (or an equivalent) rather minor.
>> >
>> > I do not use my Tablet to write a long document in Word or even a long
>> > e-mail in text in Outlook. I have a normal PC for that or I hook my
>> > Tablet slate up to its docking station and use a normal keyboard and
>> > mouse for that.
>> >
>> > However I was hoping to be able to browse Internet sites, where I use
>> > more and more Web2-style applications such as this here Google group
>> > interface, and enter basic text without going through the very slow
>> > input panel which also takes up a huge amount of screen real estate.
>> >
>> > ;-(
>> >
>

Here we go Derek, I am now responding with ritepen in IE 7. I hope
this helps. There is a forum for ritepen. If you search for the
Evernote forum you will find help topics for ritepen.

Btw, are you inking outside the box? I am writing on the side of the
form window. Try that. Insert your pen (cursor) inside the form, and
write on the outside of the form. The text will appear inside the
form.

Derek Erb wrote:
> Desz,
>
> I haven't installed Firebox (yet) on my Tablet PC which is running
> Vista.
>
> Do you not have this problem with ritePen when using MSIE (which you
> obviously avoid).
>
> ;-)
>
> Desz wrote:
> > I do not understand your problem. I am using ritepen now to reply to
> > your question. I am using firefox as my browser. I cannot tell you if
> > it works in IE.
> > Derek Erb wrote:
> > > I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> > > concept.
> > >
> > > I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> > > definitely appeals.
> > >
> > > But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> > > web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
> > >
> > > Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
> > >
> > > All ideas and suggestions welcome.

Hi Derek, I just want to clarify some information in this thread because I
think you and Chris might be miscommunicating a bit. If I understand
correctly, you are trying to use RitePen to use "write anywhere" to convert
to text. If this is the case, there is nothing that needs to be done in IE
or any web sites to make it "ink-aware". In fact, applications that were
never developed with Tablet PC in mind (even apps developed before Tablet PC
was available) are supposed to work fine with ink to text. It sounds like
RitePen is having some type of particular problem with IE for whatever
reason.

But to be 100% clear - there is NOTHING you need to do in any web site to
make it "ink-aware" unless that web site wants to allow you to write ink
directly on the web page (meaning aside from the TIP, aside from "write
anywhere", etc). Such web sites are extremely rare and usually just
experiments done by tablet enthusiasts. In my opinion "ink on the web" is
pretty useless.

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng

"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1160843310.380823.105400@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks for the info Chris.
>
> As a web site developer how do I make my TextInput fields in my Forms
> "ink aware"?
>
> Chris H. wrote:
>> Internet Explorer is "ink aware" but not all web sites are, Derek. What
>> you're basically talking about is web sites and web hosting which
>> supports
>> certain functionalities, not a lack thereof in IE.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
>> news:1160819805.860998.223180@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
>> >I am using MSIE 7 (Vista).
>> >
>> > I also tried with MSIE 6 and XP Tablet PC Edition.
>> >
>> > Apparently Microsoft, in it's infinite wisdom, has not (yet?) made IE
>> > "ink aware".
>> >
>> > That said I have found very few programs that I use to be "ink aware"
>> > thereby making the interest of ritePen (or an equivalent) rather minor.
>> >
>> > I do not use my Tablet to write a long document in Word or even a long
>> > e-mail in text in Outlook. I have a normal PC for that or I hook my
>> > Tablet slate up to its docking station and use a normal keyboard and
>> > mouse for that.
>> >
>> > However I was hoping to be able to browse Internet sites, where I use
>> > more and more Web2-style applications such as this here Google group
>> > interface, and enter basic text without going through the very slow
>> > input panel which also takes up a huge amount of screen real estate.
>> >
>> > ;-(
>> >
>

I feel pretty silly.

But 1still can't get it to work in IE.

I click on the text field here. When I click outside the field my
cursor becomes a hand and I can't write (with or without ritePen).

MSIE 7 Bug?

User ignorance?

Desz wrote:
> Here we go Derek, I am now responding with ritepen in IE 7. I hope
> this helps. There is a forum for ritepen. If you search for the
> Evernote forum you will find help topics for ritepen.
>
> Btw, are you inking outside the box? I am writing on the side of the
> form window. Try that. Insert your pen (cursor) inside the form, and
> write on the outside of the form. The text will appear inside the
> form.
>
> Derek Erb wrote:
> > Desz,
> >
> > I haven't installed Firebox (yet) on my Tablet PC which is running
> > Vista.
> >
> > Do you not have this problem with ritePen when using MSIE (which you
> > obviously avoid).
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Desz wrote:
> > > I do not understand your problem. I am using ritepen now to reply to
> > > your question. I am using firefox as my browser. I cannot tell you if
> > > it works in IE.
> > > Derek Erb wrote:
> > > > I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like the
> > > > concept.
> > > >
> > > > I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write anywhere
> > > > definitely appeals.
> > > >
> > > > But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on the
> > > > web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
> > > >
> > > > Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
> > > >
> > > > All ideas and suggestions welcome.

Do you have panning mode on in IE7? What happens if you turn it off?

--
Josh Einstein / Tablet PC MVP
Einstein Technologies, LLC
-----------------------------------------------------
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook 3.0 Now Available
Unleash the potential of Outlook on your Tablet PC, Origami, or UMPC.
Try it for 15 days - http://www.tabletoutlook.com/Go.ashx?id=ng


"Derek Erb" <derek.erb******.com> wrote in message
news:1161254218.080426.71250@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
>I feel pretty silly.
>
> But 1still can't get it to work in IE.
>
> I click on the text field here. When I click outside the field my
> cursor becomes a hand and I can't write (with or without ritePen).
>
> MSIE 7 Bug?
>
> User ignorance?
>
> Desz wrote:
>> Here we go Derek, I am now responding with ritepen in IE 7. I hope
>> this helps. There is a forum for ritepen. If you search for the
>> Evernote forum you will find help topics for ritepen.
>>
>> Btw, are you inking outside the box? I am writing on the side of the
>> form window. Try that. Insert your pen (cursor) inside the form, and
>> write on the outside of the form. The text will appear inside the
>> form.
>>
>> Derek Erb wrote:
>> > Desz,
>> >
>> > I haven't installed Firebox (yet) on my Tablet PC which is running
>> > Vista.
>> >
>> > Do you not have this problem with ritePen when using MSIE (which you
>> > obviously avoid).
>> >
>> > ;-)
>> >
>> > Desz wrote:
>> > > I do not understand your problem. I am using ritepen now to reply to
>> > > your question. I am using firefox as my browser. I cannot tell you
>> > > if
>> > > it works in IE.
>> > > Derek Erb wrote:
>> > > > I've been playing with ritePen for a few days now and I really like
>> > > > the
>> > > > concept.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've been using a Palm for many years and the idea of write
>> > > > anywhere
>> > > > definitely appeals.
>> > > >
>> > > > But ritePen doesn't work everywhere. When I'm filling in text on
>> > > > the
>> > > > web, such as this, I have to use the "normal" entry pad.
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there something else out there I should be looking at?
>> > > >
>> > > > All ideas and suggestions welcome.
>