Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
something with Core Duo CPU.

Many thanks.

RK

I'd start with the comparison charts on Tablet PC MVP Terri Stratton's fine
web site: http://thetabletpc.net where you'll find all the stats on the
units. Since the Duo Core units are relatively new at this point, you may
not have much feedback yet.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


<kroger@princeton.edu> wrote in message
news:1159712391.566105.21770@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
> something with Core Duo CPU.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> RK
>

In article <1159712391.566105.21770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>,
kroger@princeton.edu says...
> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
> something with Core Duo CPU.

Normally, I don't give specific links to things that people could have
easily found on their own... But since I was just drooling over these
this morning here is the link to Toshiba's Tablets.

http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/...tpcfam&seg=HHO

I have been seeing some complaints about the M400's lately but I don't
know if that is indicative of a trend or not. I recommend that you avoid
the Acer brand Tablets. I have not been pleased with their overall
quality of construction or tech support at all.

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:11:01 -0500, Grant Robertson <BOGUS@BOGUS.com>
wrote:

>In article <1159712391.566105.21770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>,
>kroger@princeton.edu says...
>> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
>> something with Core Duo CPU.
>
>Normally, I don't give specific links to things that people could have
>easily found on their own... But since I was just drooling over these
>this morning here is the link to Toshiba's Tablets.
>
>http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/...tpcfam&seg=HHO
>
>I have been seeing some complaints about the M400's lately but I don't
>know if that is indicative of a trend or not. I recommend that you avoid
>the Acer brand Tablets. I have not been pleased with their overall
>quality of construction or tech support at all.

I'd recommend avoiding Toshiba too. I've owned it for 6 months (well,
it's been at Toshiba for a month of that time) and its been in for
repair for screen problems twice (not the blank screen on standby
issue) .

It's currently at the depot waiting for a part since 9/13/2006 and
this is with the upgraded ServiceExpress warranty. They've promised
it would be fixed in "2 more days" more than once.

There also seem to be a lot of refurbished M400s for sale, which is
somewhat disconcerting since the M400 has only been available this
year.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

In article <5lf0i2l5c4vr9ttmoaoj8f8bpj2b24g0ij@4ax.com>, noreply.-
@-.essjae.com says...
> There also seem to be a lot of refurbished M400s for sale, which is
> somewhat disconcerting since the M400 has only been available this
> year.

Thanks for the warning.

So, does anyone have any recommendations based on long term reliability?

Steve, the Motion M1400 has been around a lot longer than a year. The
LE1600 replaced it over a year ago.

I have an M1400 with the ViewAnywhere screen and it's not given me one bit
of trouble. I've had it almost since they were first released. I don't
remember the exact date of release, but most reviews seem to have been in
late spring, early summer of 2004.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs
"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:5lf0i2l5c4vr9ttmoaoj8f8bpj2b24g0ij@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 11:11:01 -0500, Grant Robertson <BOGUS@BOGUS.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <1159712391.566105.21770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups. com>,
>>kroger@princeton.edu says...
>>> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
>>> something with Core Duo CPU.
>>
>>Normally, I don't give specific links to things that people could have
>>easily found on their own... But since I was just drooling over these
>>this morning here is the link to Toshiba's Tablets.
>>
>>http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/...tpcfam&seg=HHO
>>
>>I have been seeing some complaints about the M400's lately but I don't
>>know if that is indicative of a trend or not. I recommend that you avoid
>>the Acer brand Tablets. I have not been pleased with their overall
>>quality of construction or tech support at all.
>
> I'd recommend avoiding Toshiba too. I've owned it for 6 months (well,
> it's been at Toshiba for a month of that time) and its been in for
> repair for screen problems twice (not the blank screen on standby
> issue) .
>
> It's currently at the depot waiting for a part since 9/13/2006 and
> this is with the upgraded ServiceExpress warranty. They've promised
> it would be fixed in "2 more days" more than once.
>
> There also seem to be a lot of refurbished M400s for sale, which is
> somewhat disconcerting since the M400 has only been available this
> year.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:34:40 -0700, "terri" <terri@no.spam.mvps.org>
wrote:

>Steve, the Motion M1400 has been around a lot longer than a year. The
>LE1600 replaced it over a year ago.
>
>I have an M1400 with the ViewAnywhere screen and it's not given me one bit
>of trouble. I've had it almost since they were first released. I don't
>remember the exact date of release, but most reviews seem to have been in
>late spring, early summer of 2004.

Thanks I'll take a look at it.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
news:eKEuy0a5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> In article <5lf0i2l5c4vr9ttmoaoj8f8bpj2b24g0ij@4ax.com>, noreply.-
> @-.essjae.com says...
>> There also seem to be a lot of refurbished M400s for sale, which is
>> somewhat disconcerting since the M400 has only been available this
>> year.
>
> Thanks for the warning.
>
> So, does anyone have any recommendations based on long term reliability?

My M400 has been rock solid.

Our company also buys a lot of Toshiba gear, and the M400 has been neither
better nor worse than any other Toshiba that we've bought (M2, M3, M5, M400,
M200 etc). It helps that we have next day onsite warranty to get these
things fixed though...

Cheers
Ken

Apologies, Steve. I misread your post. You said M400 and I read M1400.

You're right that it's only been out several months. I first saw the
Toshiba M400 at CES in January and it was some time after that before it was
officially available.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs


"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 17:34:40 -0700, "terri" <terri@no.spam.mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
>>Steve, the Motion M1400 has been around a lot longer than a year. The
>>LE1600 replaced it over a year ago.
>>
>>I have an M1400 with the ViewAnywhere screen and it's not given me one bit
>>of trouble. I've had it almost since they were first released. I don't
>>remember the exact date of release, but most reviews seem to have been in
>>late spring, early summer of 2004.
>
> Thanks I'll take a look at it.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

In article <uTAS4uc5GHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,
kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com says...
> It helps that we have next day onsite warranty to get these
> things fixed though...

Yeah, where I used to work bought about 25 Dell desktops. All are working
great now (after exchanging 5 of them). Not a good percentage from
somebody who has the best reputation I know of.

I think, in the end, you have to go with a good company with a
longstanding reputation, and then be ready to push them to exchange the
machine at the first sign of trouble. That can sometimes take some work
and some "creative social engineering" but it is better than being stuck
with a lemon.

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:37:32 +1000, "Ken Schaefer"
<kenREMOVE@THISadOpenStatic.com> wrote:

>
>"Grant Robertson" <BOGUS@BOGUS.com> wrote in message
>news:eKEuy0a5GHA.3960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> In article <5lf0i2l5c4vr9ttmoaoj8f8bpj2b24g0ij@4ax.com>, noreply.-
>> @-.essjae.com says...
>>> There also seem to be a lot of refurbished M400s for sale, which is
>>> somewhat disconcerting since the M400 has only been available this
>>> year.
>>
>> Thanks for the warning.
>>
>> So, does anyone have any recommendations based on long term reliability?
>
>My M400 has been rock solid.
>
>Our company also buys a lot of Toshiba gear, and the M400 has been neither
>better nor worse than any other Toshiba that we've bought (M2, M3, M5, M400,
>M200 etc). It helps that we have next day onsite warranty to get these
>things fixed though...
>
>Cheers
>Ken
>

I didn't see that option, it's not much more than ServiceExpress. I
have definitely spent the $45 price difference in lost productivity,
time on the phone, etc. with Toshiba.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

kroger@princeton.edu wrote:
> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
> something with Core Duo CPU.
>
....

I've been using the Toshiba M400 for a few months now and have found it
to be a reliable work horse. I know there have been some issues for a
few people, but in general I've found nothing in this laptop/tablet to
change my past impression that Toshiba is a top tier laptop vendor.

I'd take a hard look at what you need beyond the Core Duo CPU and make
sure you can find it in what's available. When I was looking the only
other machine I was willing to look at would be the IBM X41, but
without the Core Duo processors and the lower screen resolution (I
develop software) the Toshiba was my only option.

There are good machines out there so define your needs and you can
limit your search based off that.

On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:22 -0700, "Mike H" <mike8675309******.com> wrote:

>kroger@princeton.edu wrote:
>> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
>> something with Core Duo CPU.
>>
>...
>
>I've been using the Toshiba M400 for a few months now and have found it
>to be a reliable work horse. I know there have been some issues for a
>few people, but in general I've found nothing in this laptop/tablet to
>change my past impression that Toshiba is a top tier laptop vendor.

I'm glad you got a working M400 and I truly hope you don't have to
have it repaired.

A top tier vendor would not make customers wait a month or more for a
repair or repeatedly and consistently disconnect calls to the only
department that has any authority to resolve situations.

>
>I'd take a hard look at what you need beyond the Core Duo CPU and make
>sure you can find it in what's available. When I was looking the only
>other machine I was willing to look at would be the IBM X41, but
>without the Core Duo processors and the lower screen resolution (I
>develop software) the Toshiba was my only option.
>
>There are good machines out there so define your needs and you can
>limit your search based off that.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

That seems to be a trick with a lot of tech support these days. Get sent up
to the next tier, wait on hold for a long time, then suddenly, click -
dialtone. Call back, and have to go through the entire routine again with a
different first level TS, then back to hold for second tier... repeat
adfinitum. It's one of the most frustrating experiences to go through and
one of my biggest complaints.
--
Terri Stratton
Microsoft Featured Community
http://thetabletpc.net
Windows MVP - Tablet PC
http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs
"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
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> On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:22 -0700, "Mike H" <mike8675309******.com> wrote:
>
>>kroger@princeton.edu wrote:
>>> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
>>> something with Core Duo CPU.
>>>
>>...
>>
>>I've been using the Toshiba M400 for a few months now and have found it
>>to be a reliable work horse. I know there have been some issues for a
>>few people, but in general I've found nothing in this laptop/tablet to
>>change my past impression that Toshiba is a top tier laptop vendor.
>
> I'm glad you got a working M400 and I truly hope you don't have to
> have it repaired.
>
> A top tier vendor would not make customers wait a month or more for a
> repair or repeatedly and consistently disconnect calls to the only
> department that has any authority to resolve situations.
>
>>
>>I'd take a hard look at what you need beyond the Core Duo CPU and make
>>sure you can find it in what's available. When I was looking the only
>>other machine I was willing to look at would be the IBM X41, but
>>without the Core Duo processors and the lower screen resolution (I
>>develop software) the Toshiba was my only option.
>>
>>There are good machines out there so define your needs and you can
>>limit your search based off that.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

not that i would know of which vendor has a good duo core cpu tablet, however
i've made my fair share of experience with both toshiba and dell. I used to
only get toshiba labtops for myself and my girlfriend went with dells. i
noticed that toshibas quality and support both declined over the years to a
degree that is plain annoying and costly at best (especially when looking at
the lost time). Well, Dell is Dell, i guess we all know what to expect from
them. more trouble than it is worth it, luckily she never used any of their
sys for serious work.
A year ago i switched to hp. good products and a way better support. i
dropped my tablet and damaged the screen. it was replaced in no time and at
no cost. the best part was the phone support, never waited for more than 5
mins and no indians...

hope this helps too


"terri" wrote:

> That seems to be a trick with a lot of tech support these days. Get sent up
> to the next tier, wait on hold for a long time, then suddenly, click -
> dialtone. Call back, and have to go through the entire routine again with a
> different first level TS, then back to hold for second tier... repeat
> adfinitum. It's one of the most frustrating experiences to go through and
> one of my biggest complaints.
> --
> Terri Stratton
> Microsoft Featured Community
> http://thetabletpc.net
> Windows MVP - Tablet PC
> http://writepc.com - a site for UMPCs
> "Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
> news:snb8i29urvafi4j3ntc8r8p34jjmdajga8@4ax.com...
> > On 4 Oct 2006 14:21:22 -0700, "Mike H" <mike8675309******.com> wrote:
> >
> >>kroger@princeton.edu wrote:
> >>> Can anyone suggest good models of Tablet PC to look at. I prefer
> >>> something with Core Duo CPU.
> >>>
> >>...
> >>
> >>I've been using the Toshiba M400 for a few months now and have found it
> >>to be a reliable work horse. I know there have been some issues for a
> >>few people, but in general I've found nothing in this laptop/tablet to
> >>change my past impression that Toshiba is a top tier laptop vendor.
> >
> > I'm glad you got a working M400 and I truly hope you don't have to
> > have it repaired.
> >
> > A top tier vendor would not make customers wait a month or more for a
> > repair or repeatedly and consistently disconnect calls to the only
> > department that has any authority to resolve situations.
> >
> >>
> >>I'd take a hard look at what you need beyond the Core Duo CPU and make
> >>sure you can find it in what's available. When I was looking the only
> >>other machine I was willing to look at would be the IBM X41, but
> >>without the Core Duo processors and the lower screen resolution (I
> >>develop software) the Toshiba was my only option.
> >>
> >>There are good machines out there so define your needs and you can
> >>limit your search based off that.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> > http://vpc.essjae.com/
> > I do not work for Microsoft.
>
>