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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Maja
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english language version

Hello,
I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC Edition and
ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd like to change it
into the English one.
Is it possible with any recovery CD with an English version (I have one from
my old Acer C110)? Will it be still legal?
If or it wouldn't wor or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?

Maja
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Chris H.
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Re: english language version

You would need to contact the manufacturer or the sales company where you
bought the Tablet PC for the correct media for your new system.
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Maja" <Maja@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC Edition
> and
> ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd like to change it
> into the English one.
> Is it possible with any recovery CD with an English version (I have one
> from
> my old Acer C110)? Will it be still legal?
> If or it wouldn't wor or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?
>
> Maja



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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: english language version

Maja wrote:
> Hello,
> I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC
> Edition and ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd
> like to change it into the English one.


Didn't you get the MUI pack?

Rainald

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Maja
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Re: english language version

Well the problem is I bought it on eBay and it contained only recovery CD
German. And I couldn't find there any MUI files. The thing is that MUI is
created only for English version.
Maja

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> Maja wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC
> > Edition and ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd
> > like to change it into the English one.

>
> Didn't you get the MUI pack?
>
> Rainald
>
>

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: english language version

A MUI pack for the operating system is only available for corporate
entities, not the general public. Since the purchaser bought the Tablet PC
from someone through EBay, it would be the seller's responsibility to
furnish the proper operating system/software. Whether it was sold as a
German language machine is probably only known to the seller and buyer, and
not the responsibility of Microsoft or the original manufacturer.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Maja wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC
>> Edition and ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd
>> like to change it into the English one.

>
> Didn't you get the MUI pack?
>
> Rainald



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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Maja
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Re: english language version

I most certainly don't blame Microsoft for that, but I put myself in that
position and am trying to find a solution.
So coming back to my original questions:
Is it possible to reinstall the laptop with any recovery CD with an English
version (I have one from my old Acer C110) into a German base? Maybe the
files deciding about the language are only on the CDs? Will it be still legal?
If or it wouldn't work or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?



"Chris H." wrote:

> A MUI pack for the operating system is only available for corporate
> entities, not the general public. Since the purchaser bought the Tablet PC
> from someone through EBay, it would be the seller's responsibility to
> furnish the proper operating system/software. Whether it was sold as a
> German language machine is probably only known to the seller and buyer, and
> not the responsibility of Microsoft or the original manufacturer.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
>
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:%23PPVCfD3GHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > Maja wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC
> >> Edition and ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd
> >> like to change it into the English one.

> >
> > Didn't you get the MUI pack?
> >
> > Rainald

>
>
>

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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: english language version

Legally, I believe the media you have for the C110 is licensed to that
particular computer through the manufacturer's setup routine. If there's a
product key code on the bottom of the computer, then it belongs to that
single computer. Have you contacted Acer to see if they'd sell you a new
set for the newer computer?
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Maja" <Maja@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I most certainly don't blame Microsoft for that, but I put myself in that
> position and am trying to find a solution.
> So coming back to my original questions:
> Is it possible to reinstall the laptop with any recovery CD with an
> English
> version (I have one from my old Acer C110) into a German base? Maybe the
> files deciding about the language are only on the CDs? Will it be still
> legal?
> If or it wouldn't work or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?
>
>
>
> "Chris H." wrote:
>
>> A MUI pack for the operating system is only available for corporate
>> entities, not the general public. Since the purchaser bought the Tablet
>> PC
>> from someone through EBay, it would be the seller's responsibility to
>> furnish the proper operating system/software. Whether it was sold as a
>> German language machine is probably only known to the seller and buyer,
>> and
>> not the responsibility of Microsoft or the original manufacturer.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>>
>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:%23PPVCfD3GHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > Maja wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> I've just bought an Acer C312 with a German Windows xp Tablet PC
>> >> Edition and ufortunately I don't speak any German. In that case I'd
>> >> like to change it into the English one.
>> >
>> > Didn't you get the MUI pack?
>> >
>> > Rainald

>>
>>
>>



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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: english language version

Maja wrote:
> I most certainly don't blame Microsoft for that, but I put myself in that
> position and am trying to find a solution.
> So coming back to my original questions:
> Is it possible to reinstall the laptop with any recovery CD with an English
> version (I have one from my old Acer C110) into a German base? Maybe the
> files deciding about the language are only on the CDs? Will it be still legal?
> If or it wouldn't work or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?


Unfortunately only if you have the English recovery CD - you'd best
first check with the eBay seller if (s)he has other languages than
German. At least my C3xx series came with three recovery CD sets
English (which, sorry, I still need...), Finnish, Swedish.

If the seller doesn't have them, ask Acer.

If it's getting desperate then there's also
http://board.iexbeta.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=1389
although I've no idea if that /really/ works (an English
TABLETPC.CAB might be available on p2p networks, always with the
risk of being infested with all kinds of nasty unexpected things...)

Or then, wait for Vista and buy it, it should be released real soon
now, like MS has been saying already a for while... ;-) (but ok
current estimate was beginning of 2007 for consumer Vista, and
November 2006 for corporate, AFAIK, so it really might be relatively
soon)

regards,
- Jan
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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Re: english language version

And that is a more useful reply :). I might actually get a copy of recovery
CDs in English and I was told that the license should be fine with the
English version anyway.
It's really annoying that they don't make proper installation CDs at all.

Thanks.
Maja

"Jan Wagner" wrote:

> Maja wrote:
> > I most certainly don't blame Microsoft for that, but I put myself in that
> > position and am trying to find a solution.
> > So coming back to my original questions:
> > Is it possible to reinstall the laptop with any recovery CD with an English
> > version (I have one from my old Acer C110) into a German base? Maybe the
> > files deciding about the language are only on the CDs? Will it be still legal?
> > If or it wouldn't work or is not legal how can I buy an installation CD?

>
> Unfortunately only if you have the English recovery CD - you'd best
> first check with the eBay seller if (s)he has other languages than
> German. At least my C3xx series came with three recovery CD sets
> English (which, sorry, I still need...), Finnish, Swedish.
>
> If the seller doesn't have them, ask Acer.
>
> If it's getting desperate then there's also
> http://board.iexbeta.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=1389
> although I've no idea if that /really/ works (an English
> TABLETPC.CAB might be available on p2p networks, always with the
> risk of being infested with all kinds of nasty unexpected things...)
>
> Or then, wait for Vista and buy it, it should be released real soon
> now, like MS has been saying already a for while... ;-) (but ok
> current estimate was beginning of 2007 for consumer Vista, and
> November 2006 for corporate, AFAIK, so it really might be relatively
> soon)
>
> regards,
> - Jan
>

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Rainald Taesler
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Re: english language version

Chris H. wrote:
> A MUI pack for the operating system is only available for corporate
> entities, not the general public.


Not only.
My HP tc1100 came with (a) XP Pro + TabletPC extensions in German and
(b) The complete set MUI disks for that. That's HP's company policy.

> Since the purchaser bought the
> Tablet PC from someone through EBay, it would be the seller's
> responsibility to furnish the proper operating system/software.


Right.

> Whether it was sold as a German language machine is probably only
> known to the seller and buyer, and not the responsibility of
> Microsoft or the original manufacturer.


Nobody spoke of any "responsibility" of MS.
The OP had asked if she might legally use the CDs which had come with
her previous machine.
And I had asked back if she had not got the MUI pack (because I
thought that this would be industry standard, not only HP standard).
Nothing more, nothing less.

Rainald


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Re: english language version

And I was only making the statement so no one might misunderstand. When a
third-party seller is involved, it is that person's responsibility to
furnish the necessary software, not Microsoft and not the manufacturer. In
the case of an EBay sale, we've seen all too often that no software is
included in the sale, and people are bitten by that all the time
unfortunately.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone


"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Chris H. wrote:
>> A MUI pack for the operating system is only available for corporate
>> entities, not the general public.

>
> Not only.
> My HP tc1100 came with (a) XP Pro + TabletPC extensions in German and (b)
> The complete set MUI disks for that. That's HP's company policy.
>
>> Since the purchaser bought the
>> Tablet PC from someone through EBay, it would be the seller's
>> responsibility to furnish the proper operating system/software.

>
> Right.
>
>> Whether it was sold as a German language machine is probably only
>> known to the seller and buyer, and not the responsibility of
>> Microsoft or the original manufacturer.

>
> Nobody spoke of any "responsibility" of MS.
> The OP had asked if she might legally use the CDs which had come with her
> previous machine.
> And I had asked back if she had not got the MUI pack (because I thought
> that this would be industry standard, not only HP standard).
> Nothing more, nothing less.
>
> Rainald
>
>



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Old 12-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Rainald Taesler
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Re: english language version

Maja wrote:
> It's really annoying that they don't make proper installation CDs at
> all.


Are you sure they don't?
Couldn't it be that it would be the seller to blame for not having
giving given you the full set of CDs????

As said in my reply to Chris I got the MUI in additon to the German
version.
Does Acer give less?

Rainald

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Re: english language version

Jan Wagner wrote:
> If it's getting desperate then there's also
> http://board.iexbeta.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=1389
> although I've no idea if that /really/ works (an English


The link does not work :-( :-(

Rainald

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Works fine here.
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"Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Jan Wagner wrote:
>> If it's getting desperate then there's also
>> http://board.iexbeta.com/index.php?a...e=post&id=1389
>> although I've no idea if that /really/ works (an English

>
> The link does not work :-( :-(
>
> Rainald
>


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Re: english language version

Chris H. wrote:
> ... In the case of an EBay sale, we've seen all
> too often that no software is included in the sale, and people are
> bitten by that all the time unfortunately.


Only too true!! [siiigh]
One can not be careful enough and it's necessary to ask for the
details prior to bidding.

I bought mine on eBay too. But I would not have done it without having
the proof for the rest of the warranty and the reconfirmation for the
full set of CDs.

Rainald

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